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[Jon]

Our main 4 off the bench is better than what we had in 2008, in my opinion when the significant contributors were House and Posey. We still have Eddie, but added Sheed and Daniels with a more experienced Big Baby.

I expect all four of those guys to contribute a lot to the team, but if I had to pick the two most significant it'd be Daniels and Rasheed. Quis is going to get a lot of time out there playing three positions and will probably score in double digits off the bench, which we didn't have last year.

Rasheed gives us a big body that can spread the floor and rebound, if we had him last year we would have at least gotten past Orlando.

True.  And that's especially scary given that Rondo and Perkins are dramatically better than they were in 2008 as well.  Better bench, better PG, and better center added to a team that won 66 games.  Teams better look out. 

[lon3lytoaster]

Our main 4 off the bench is better than what we had in 2008, in my opinion when the significant contributors were House and Posey. We still have Eddie, but added Sheed and Daniels with a more experienced Big Baby.

I expect all four of those guys to contribute a lot to the team, but if I had to pick the two most significant it'd be Daniels and Rasheed. Quis is going to get a lot of time out there playing three positions and will probably score in double digits off the bench, which we didn't have last year.

Rasheed gives us a big body that can spread the floor and rebound, if we had him last year we would have at least gotten past Orlando.

True.  And that's especially scary given that Rondo and Perkins are dramatically better than they were in 2008 as well.  Better bench, better PG, and better center added to a team that won 66 games.  Teams better look out. 

And 62 games with KG playing under 60 last year. I've been telling kids this team might win 70. Factor in the chemistry this team has now three years in and I think there's a very realistic chance we either tie or break that Chicago record.

The Celtics are a team, not the Cleveland LeBrons and they're sure as hell one of the best teams in Celtics history.

[Jon]

Our main 4 off the bench is better than what we had in 2008, in my opinion when the significant contributors were House and Posey. We still have Eddie, but added Sheed and Daniels with a more experienced Big Baby.

I expect all four of those guys to contribute a lot to the team, but if I had to pick the two most significant it'd be Daniels and Rasheed. Quis is going to get a lot of time out there playing three positions and will probably score in double digits off the bench, which we didn't have last year.

Rasheed gives us a big body that can spread the floor and rebound, if we had him last year we would have at least gotten past Orlando.

True.  And that's especially scary given that Rondo and Perkins are dramatically better than they were in 2008 as well.  Better bench, better PG, and better center added to a team that won 66 games.  Teams better look out. 

And 62 games with KG playing under 60 last year. I've been telling kids this team might win 70. Factor in the chemistry this team has now three years in and I think there's a very realistic chance we either tie or break that Chicago record.

The Celtics are a team, not the Cleveland LeBrons and they're sure as hell one of the best teams in Celtics history.

Absolutely.  I think the only things that may keep them from 70+ wins are injuries or very, very conservative minutes for the starters (like less than 30 mpg, which I think is very unlikely). 

And looking back at last year's team that won 62 games.  Not only did KG miss 25 regular season games, they also had next-to-no bench.  Wallace and Daniels are better than anyone they had last year by quite a bit.

[xmuscularghandix]

I think the Celtics will have an 8 man rotation with three key bench players making very good contributions -- House, Daniels and Sheed.

Eddie House and Marquis Daniels are just so much better than the rest of the backup players on the perimeter that it's hard for me to leave one of those those two out in a discussion like this. Both of those guys will be making good contributions throughout the season, House arguably being the best bench player last year, and would sorely missed if lost to injury.

If I were to select one of those above the others ... then Sheed is the frontrunner until proven otherwise. He's clearly the most talented player.

... I think you need to name all three players if you're going with multiple choices as key bench contributors ...

You don't this BBD will be a key contributor?

[Who]

I think the Celtics will have an 8 man rotation with three key bench players making very good contributions -- House, Daniels and Sheed.

Eddie House and Marquis Daniels are just so much better than the rest of the backup players on the perimeter that it's hard for me to leave one of those those two out in a discussion like this. Both of those guys will be making good contributions throughout the season, House arguably being the best bench player last year, and would sorely missed if lost to injury.

If I were to select one of those above the others ... then Sheed is the frontrunner until proven otherwise. He's clearly the most talented player.

... I think you need to name all three players if you're going with multiple choices as key bench contributors ...

You don't this BBD will be a key contributor?

Not at the level the other three will be.

There simply won't be enough minutes for BBD playing behind Garnett, Perkins and Wallace.

Davis' role will be a lot smaller than the other three -- Daniels, House and Wallace.

[Jon]

I think the Celtics will have an 8 man rotation with three key bench players making very good contributions -- House, Daniels and Sheed.

Eddie House and Marquis Daniels are just so much better than the rest of the backup players on the perimeter that it's hard for me to leave one of those those two out in a discussion like this. Both of those guys will be making good contributions throughout the season, House arguably being the best bench player last year, and would sorely missed if lost to injury.

If I were to select one of those above the others ... then Sheed is the frontrunner until proven otherwise. He's clearly the most talented player.

... I think you need to name all three players if you're going with multiple choices as key bench contributors ...

You don't this BBD will be a key contributor?

Not at the level the other three will be.

There simply won't be enough minutes for BBD playing behind Garnett, Perkins and Wallace.

Davis' role will be a lot smaller than the other three -- Daniels, House and Wallace.

I 100% agree.  I don't know what type of math people are doing, but there's only 48 mpg per position.  If people think Baby's going to get big minutes, they must think we're going to have a lot of OT games. 

Even if we're extremely conservative to the point of exaggeration and say that KG, Perk, and Sheed all only average 28 mpg, that leaves 12 mpg for Baby.  And let's face it, even if that is the case, in games that Doc is really trying to win and/or are close, they're going to play more minutes, leaving zero minutes for Baby. 

The only way I see him getting enough minutes to be a big contributor is if he can play some 3 (which he's hinted at this offseason) or if Doc decides to give KG 5-10 mpg at the 3 (which I don't love, but also don't think is as horrible of an idea as some think on this board). 

[ManUp]

I think the Celtics will have an 8 man rotation with three key bench players making very good contributions -- House, Daniels and Sheed.

Eddie House and Marquis Daniels are just so much better than the rest of the backup players on the perimeter that it's hard for me to leave one of those those two out in a discussion like this. Both of those guys will be making good contributions throughout the season, House arguably being the best bench player last year, and would sorely missed if lost to injury.

If I were to select one of those above the others ... then Sheed is the frontrunner until proven otherwise. He's clearly the most talented player.

... I think you need to name all three players if you're going with multiple choices as key bench contributors ...

You don't this BBD will be a key contributor?

Not at the level the other three will be.

There simply won't be enough minutes for BBD playing behind Garnett, Perkins and Wallace.

Davis' role will be a lot smaller than the other three -- Daniels, House and Wallace.

I 100% agree.  I don't know what type of math people are going, but there's only 48 mpg per position.  If people think Baby's going to get big minutes, they must think we're going to have a lot of OT games. 

Even if we're extremely conservative to the point of exaggeration and say that KG, Perk, and Sheed all only average 28 mpg, that leaves 12 mpg for Baby.  And let's face it, even if that is the case, in games that Doc is really trying to win and/or are close, they're going to play more minutes, leaving zero minutes for Baby. 

The only way I see him getting enough minutes to be a big contributor is if he can play some 3 (which he's hinted at this offseason) or if Doc decides to give KG 5-10 mpg at the 3 (which I don't love, but also don't think is as horrible of an idea as some think on this board). 

TP! I've been trying to get the point about the minutes across for a while now.

[billysan]

Good point about the minutes. I think we also have to consider that whomever, between Sheed and BBD, plays the best interior defense, may be the frontrunner for those minutes. This could also be based on who the opposition is on a given nite. Clearly length in what Sheed gives at this stage of his career while BBD cannot be overlooked when it comes to strength on the blocks.

I truly hope that both guys see decent minutes so that KG lasts for 80 plus games and has something in the tank come playoff time.

A rotation of:

Perk 30mpg
KG 30mpg
Sheed 18mpg
BBD 18mpg


considering some teams/games would demand more minutes from a certain player on a given nite due to matchups, is taken into consideration.

While he will still be a huge upgrade and I love the acquisition for our bench, I am feeling cautious. I still think that Sheed may have less left in the tank against the top tier players than we realize is going to be the case. How long can can he play Dirk head to head effectively? Bringing him in the game off the bench will be matchup based (we need someone to cover Dirk while KG sits) and he cant be hidden against the 'weaker' Dampier for example.

[ACF]

Wallace and Daniels. Gut feeling.