CelticsBlog has lost its way.

[Rondo2287]

Ok, what i was talking about was a little different but is in the same vain....



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With respect to certain privacy rights, public figures – such as the President of the United States or Tom Cruise – have virtually no legal right to privacy. What the media may know about a celebrity or politician is fair game for publication, no matter how dastardly the information may be. This is so because where public figures are involved, the newsworthiness of the information will outweigh the right to privacy of the public figure – so long as the information is actually true and was not printed or aired with “actual malice.” When celebrities and politicians sue the media, the legal question generally boils down to two questions: Was the information true, and was it printed without actual malice – or intent to harm the public figure.  If the answer is no, the media will succeed on the legal claim nearly every time.

However, if you are an average person with no public figure status, the media doesn’t have a legal right to go printing and airing your dirty laundry. Why? Because it is not particularly newsworthy, and thus, your right to privacy outweighs the newsworthiness of the information.

So, what’s the lesson here? The lesson is this: Don’t go spreading gossip (true or not) about your friends or coworkers to the media , or even on your own website. If your neighbor has a terrible crack addiction and carries on illicit affairs, that doesn’t mean you have the right to go to the press about it.
 

[Chris]

Your both right, and I agree with both of you. but let me keep playing devils advocate here and say this, What if Gerald Green was a memeber then the attacts would have to stop right? or what if Wcy who said he checks this site out was to start posting here then I guess we would have to stop criticizeing him right. Not that theres much of that going on these days except in the case of Leon Powe and that was more Danny gettin the brunt of that heat. but you know what I am getting at. It's like saying attack any non member all u like just don't attack a member.

If Gerald or Wyc did become members here, I don't think it would change anything.  If anyone personally attacked them as a poster, we wouldn't stand for it.  However, we would certainly allow people to criticize their work in basketball.  

I guess the key to me is the difference between personally attacking someone based on their opinions, and criticizing them for the job they do in their profession.  

In fact, I guess this thread is a great example.  There are some posters on this thread who have been criticizing the staff, and the job we do.  As you can clearly see, we have not stopped this from happening.  It is in the correct forum, and it has been done (for the most part) respectfully.  Yes, some of us have felt the need to explain our thinking, in the hopes that those criticizing us can understand where we come from, but no one will be punished for respectfully criticizing us.  

[Edgar]

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[BBS]

Man it's great to be back!! 

[JSD]

Your both right, and I agree with both of you. but let me keep playing devils advocate here and say this, What if Gerald Green was a memeber then the attacts would have to stop right? or what if Wcy who said he checks this site out was to start posting here then I guess we would have to stop criticizeing him right. Not that theres much of that going on these days except in the case of Leon Powe and that was more Danny gettin the brunt of that heat. but you know what I am getting at. It's like saying attack any non member all u like just don't attack a member.

If Gerald or Wyc did become members here, I don't think it would change anything.  If anyone personally attacked them as a poster, we wouldn't stand for it.  However, we would certainly allow people to criticize their work in basketball.  

I guess the key to me is the difference between personally attacking someone based on their opinions, and criticizing them for the job they do in their profession.  

In fact, I guess this thread is a great example.  There are some posters on this thread who have been criticizing the staff, and the job we do.  As you can clearly see, we have not stopped this from happening.  It is in the correct forum, and it has been done (for the most part) respectfully.  Yes, some of us have felt the need to explain our thinking, in the hopes that those criticizing us can understand where we come from, but no one will be punished for respectfully criticizing us.  

Ladies and Gentleman, I am Gerald Green. And I've been humiliated by this community time and time again. 

[BBS]

Your both right, and I agree with both of you. but let me keep playing devils advocate here and say this, What if Gerald Green was a memeber then the attacts would have to stop right? or what if Wcy who said he checks this site out was to start posting here then I guess we would have to stop criticizeing him right. Not that theres much of that going on these days except in the case of Leon Powe and that was more Danny gettin the brunt of that heat. but you know what I am getting at. It's like saying attack any non member all u like just don't attack a member.

If Gerald or Wyc did become members here, I don't think it would change anything.  If anyone personally attacked them as a poster, we wouldn't stand for it.  However, we would certainly allow people to criticize their work in basketball.  

I guess the key to me is the difference between personally attacking someone based on their opinions, and criticizing them for the job they do in their profession.  

In fact, I guess this thread is a great example.  There are some posters on this thread who have been criticizing the staff, and the job we do.  As you can clearly see, we have not stopped this from happening.  It is in the correct forum, and it has been done (for the most part) respectfully.  Yes, some of us have felt the need to explain our thinking, in the hopes that those criticizing us can understand where we come from, but no one will be punished for respectfully criticizing us.  

Ladies and Gentleman, I am Gerald Green. And I've been humiliated by this community time and time again. 

 Gerald all I can say is consider yourself lucky that your not Mark Blount. 

[fairweatherfan]

Your both right, and I agree with both of you. but let me keep playing devils advocate here and say this, What if Gerald Green was a memeber then the attacts would have to stop right? or what if Wcy who said he checks this site out was to start posting here then I guess we would have to stop criticizeing him right. Not that theres much of that going on these days except in the case of Leon Powe and that was more Danny gettin the brunt of that heat. but you know what I am getting at. It's like saying attack any non member all u like just don't attack a member.

If Gerald or Wyc did become members here, I don't think it would change anything.  If anyone personally attacked them as a poster, we wouldn't stand for it.  However, we would certainly allow people to criticize their work in basketball.  

I guess the key to me is the difference between personally attacking someone based on their opinions, and criticizing them for the job they do in their profession.  

In fact, I guess this thread is a great example.  There are some posters on this thread who have been criticizing the staff, and the job we do.  As you can clearly see, we have not stopped this from happening.  It is in the correct forum, and it has been done (for the most part) respectfully.  Yes, some of us have felt the need to explain our thinking, in the hopes that those criticizing us can understand where we come from, but no one will be punished for respectfully criticizing us.  

Ladies and Gentleman, I am Gerald Green. And I've been humiliated by this community time and time again. 

That's because you're always here posting instead of working on your jumpshot. 

I don't think CB has lost its way, but I had no idea once you scratched the surface it was actually Sweet Valley High.  This thread's been quite an eye-opener.   

On the plus side, exactly 2 months til the season opener!  Maybe then we can switch from griping about each other to griping about basketball. 

[Hoyo de Monterrey]

Your both right, and I agree with both of you. but let me keep playing devils advocate here and say this, What if Gerald Green was a memeber then the attacts would have to stop right? or what if Wcy who said he checks this site out was to start posting here then I guess we would have to stop criticizeing him right. Not that theres much of that going on these days except in the case of Leon Powe and that was more Danny gettin the brunt of that heat. but you know what I am getting at. It's like saying attack any non member all u like just don't attack a member.

If Gerald or Wyc did become members here, I don't think it would change anything.  If anyone personally attacked them as a poster, we wouldn't stand for it.  However, we would certainly allow people to criticize their work in basketball.  

I guess the key to me is the difference between personally attacking someone based on their opinions, and criticizing them for the job they do in their profession.  

In fact, I guess this thread is a great example.  There are some posters on this thread who have been criticizing the staff, and the job we do.  As you can clearly see, we have not stopped this from happening.  It is in the correct forum, and it has been done (for the most part) respectfully.  Yes, some of us have felt the need to explain our thinking, in the hopes that those criticizing us can understand where we come from, but no one will be punished for respectfully criticizing us.  

Ladies and Gentleman, I am Gerald Green. And I've been humiliated by this community time and time again. 

That's because you're always here posting instead of working on your jumpshot. 

I don't think CB has lost its way, but I had no idea once you scratched the surface it was actually Sweet Valley High.  This thread's been quite an eye-opener.   

On the plus side, exactly 2 months til the season opener!  Maybe then we can switch from griping about each other to griping about basketball. 

I think this last point might be the most important... My opinion is once games and meaningful Celtics-related things start happening, we will probably be okay.

[dark_lord]

I'll say two things, because 99% of the membership doesn't know what's really happening in this thread:

1) When somebody's friend is disciplined, the first reaction of that person is to attack the staff.  When that disciplined person had a network of friends "off the blog", the anti-staff reaction is likely to be even worse.  Unfortunately, those upset members are not privy to 100% of the facts.  Rather, they're criticizing the staff based upon a very jaded viewpoint.  When the member who was disciplined happens to have several vocal friends on the blog, threads like this happen.

2) It has come to my attention that certain vocal members are disappointed that they, or their friends, were passed over for mod status.  My reaction to that is, threads like this show exactly why those people would not make good moderators.

Celticsblog is not a club, where the most popular people are made part of the staff.  It's not a democracy, either.  We take the process of adding to the staff very seriously.  The members we have chosen as mods are active, objective, reasonable, and dedicated to Celticsblog.  There are reasons why certain members have gotten passed over.  If they (and they alone, not their friends) would like to address those reasons, they can contact a member of the staff.  However, if you ask, please be prepared to receive a candid answer.  There are a lot of good, friendly, capable members who don't have what we feel it takes to join the staff.  Rather than focus on one's own personal gain, I wish some had just decided to welcome Fafnir, an excellent, excellent member of this community.

So, basically, if you're going to leave the blog because one of your friends was disciplined, or because your buddies weren't made a moderator, that's your right.  However, I'm not going to beg you to come back because of it.  Sorry if that hurts anybody's feelings, but that's my position on it.

all i can say is "wow" roy.  when i read that it just says that acf's and maestro's involvement here arent appreciated.  i also have to personalize this post, as i am "off the blog" friends with the two of them. 

u can definitely chalk me up as one to lobby for acf and maestro (no offense to fanfir at all, great poster and a great choice).  so is it not ok to almost nominate a mod when ur just a poster?  i know u guys discuss it and come to a decision, but i absolutely feel that posters can have at least some input in the consideration.  i know i did that with redz and it turned out great.

i dont know if any of your post is directed at me personally, bc honestly, i am a little out of the loop here.i can definitely say i have noticed a negative vibe on the blog over the course of the last few weeks, posters and mods alike.  i will be the first to admit i have even been more negative than usual. 

i think some of the mods do a good job, while others dont, just like anything else in life.  i can definitely say that CB used to have a positive vibe where mods and posters posted in threads and meshed very well, whereas now it definitely feels like there is a clear divide.  i think if you chastise posters for taking things personally when something happens to one of their "buddies", u must include the mods.  their is definitely a vibe of an inner "club" so to speak.  i understand when u moderate a board u work as a team, but i think, just like posters, when "one of their own" is not treated well, others tend to be supportive.

just my two cents, again, i dont even know if any of your post had me in mind, lol.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Wait what? Now people are angry for being passed over being a mod? What the heck?

[dark_lord]

double post, sorry 

[dark_lord]

Wait what? Now people are angry for being passed over being a mod? What the heck?

personally, thats one job i would never want. i dont think i would enjoy the site as much.

[Redz]

Wait what? Now people are angry for being passed over being a mod? What the heck?

personally, thats one job i would never want. i dont think i would enjoy the site as much.

It's certainly nothing that I ever aspired to, but have enjoyed aspects of.

I guess for me I don't see the "police uniform" that I'm wearing.  I still don't stop to think that others might view me differently because I have a Mod tag under my name.  But I've always walked around naively assuming that everyone in the world will accept me for who I am.

Until a couple of years ago I had pretty horrendous psoriasis.  It was impossible to look at me and not notice it.
I never hid it though.  Again, I figured it's what inside that counts, and if I could live with it, then someone could deal with looking at it.  Because of my attitude about it, I was often oblivious to the fact that people may have been looking at me like I was some sort of scaly freak.

For me, unless I'm typing like this you can assume it's just me talking, not the Mod.

I think the lines have blurred a bit as to which perceived hat we're wearing at what time, but I think for the most part, what holds true for me is true for the staff. 

[angryguy77]

I'll say two things, because 99% of the membership doesn't know what's really happening in this thread:

1) When somebody's friend is disciplined, the first reaction of that person is to attack the staff.  When that disciplined person had a network of friends "off the blog", the anti-staff reaction is likely to be even worse.  Unfortunately, those upset members are not privy to 100% of the facts.  Rather, they're criticizing the staff based upon a very jaded viewpoint.  When the member who was disciplined happens to have several vocal friends on the blog, threads like this happen.

2) It has come to my attention that certain vocal members are disappointed that they, or their friends, were passed over for mod status.  My reaction to that is, threads like this show exactly why those people would not make good moderators.

Celticsblog is not a club, where the most popular people are made part of the staff.  It's not a democracy, either.  We take the process of adding to the staff very seriously.  The members we have chosen as mods are active, objective, reasonable, and dedicated to Celticsblog.  There are reasons why certain members have gotten passed over.  If they (and they alone, not their friends) would like to address those reasons, they can contact a member of the staff.  However, if you ask, please be prepared to receive a candid answer.  There are a lot of good, friendly, capable members who don't have what we feel it takes to join the staff.  Rather than focus on one's own personal gain, I wish some had just decided to welcome Fafnir, an excellent, excellent member of this community.

So, basically, if you're going to leave the blog because one of your friends was disciplined, or because your buddies weren't made a moderator, that's your right.  However, I'm not going to beg you to come back because of it.  Sorry if that hurts anybody's feelings, but that's my position on it.

Wow this is crazy. If somone is that broken up about not being a mod, they need some help. Now thats not to take away anything that the mods do here because it can't be easy. To posses the knowledge of the game and dedicate the time necessary to this site is appreciated by myself and others who love to come here. But at the end of the day there are other things in life to be more concerned about. This is a place to come for entertainment, not to take this serious. This keeps up Jeff is going to have rename the site with greek letters and call it a sorority. Then the fights over nothing will at least be expected.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Wait what? Now people are angry for being passed over being a mod? What the heck?

personally, thats one job i would never want. i dont think i would enjoy the site as much.

Personally I like it, mainly because I can keep forums organized. After being an admin and moderator in other forums, it's a bit hard to get used to how other forums operate, particularly the thread naming schemes, how forum sections are organized, how there's an abudnace of topics discussing the same thing, etc.

Other than that, it's realize that you can't be friends with everyone... be fair (although you know you'll have a soft spots from some of your friends), exhort members to respect your decisions, and step in before situations get out of hand. Communicate.

I've always viewed forum communities as dictatorships, and you becoming a member it's part of your responsibility to abide by the rules and overall keep you mouth shut when a mod steps in to handle a situation. You can always voice ways to improve the site and if something utterly unfair occurs then say so, but all this drama this thread has created I would really frown upon as a member and as a mod/admin likewise (probably even more so). In my opinion it has no place here.