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Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #135 on: November 01, 2009, 09:47:01 PM »

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The man is simply one of the greatest QBs to ever play the game and continues to show why week in and week out.

Except the playoffs or games that are important to get into the playoffs. At least that's how the Jets were probably feeling while Chad Pennington was taking a team with 1 or two wins the year before to the playoffs, while the Jets were left in shambles.

He's personally destroyed two franchises in a row. Now we get to see what happens to Minnesota.

Hyperbole much? ;)  How did he destroy the Jets franchise?  Or Green Bay, for that matter?  He took them to two Super Bowls, and won one.

He's thrown too many interceptions, but he's helped his teams much more than he's hurt them.  I can't blame him too much for the Jets fade at the end of the season, since he was playing with a messed up throwing arm.
If you want to ask how he destroyed Green Bay you'd have to ask Packers fans. They seem to have some idea. If you want to blame it on the owners I guess that makes sense.

And you can't possibly say he left the Jets in better shape than he found it. After he left town they traded a ton to move up and get Sanchez and then started him.

Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #136 on: November 01, 2009, 09:57:12 PM »

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The man is simply one of the greatest QBs to ever play the game and continues to show why week in and week out.

Except the playoffs or games that are important to get into the playoffs. At least that's how the Jets were probably feeling while Chad Pennington was taking a team with 1 or two wins the year before to the playoffs, while the Jets were left in shambles.

He's personally destroyed two franchises in a row. Now we get to see what happens to Minnesota.
Me thinks your Favre hated is clearly coloring your perspective of the facts to be clearly nonobjective. The numbers and the results and his success and MVP trophies clearly say that you are probably not looking at this with anything but a clear anti-Favre bias.
What success? He had less success in the Super Bowl than Trent Dilfer. A .500 record vs 100%.  Regular season MVP trophies don't mean much. You can't possibly compare them to rings. They're just popularity trophies. If you win an MVP and don't win the Super Bowl you're just Dirk Novitzki after the Warriors beat him.

Yes he has amazing numbers. When you stick around till you've warn out your welcome you end up with a ton of yards.

Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #137 on: November 01, 2009, 09:58:30 PM »

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Favre: OV-er RAY-ted!
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Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #138 on: November 01, 2009, 10:02:32 PM »

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Favre: OV-er RAY-ted!

Oh come on. Now you're just a hater. Look at all his seasons that he didn't win a Super Bowl but got great stats or an MVP trophy. It's what defines greatness.

Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #139 on: November 01, 2009, 10:09:33 PM »

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Favre: OV-er RAY-ted!

Oh come on. Now you're just a hater. Look at all his seasons that he didn't win a Super Bowl but got great stats or an MVP trophy. It's what defines greatness.

Tom Brady.  That's what defines greatness, IMHO.
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Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #140 on: November 01, 2009, 10:12:20 PM »

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What success? He had less success in the Super Bowl than Trent Dilfer. A .500 record vs 100%. 


Well, at least you admit that Troy Aikman is clearly better than Tom Brady, then.

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Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #141 on: November 01, 2009, 10:39:27 PM »

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The man is simply one of the greatest QBs to ever play the game and continues to show why week in and week out.

Except the playoffs or games that are important to get into the playoffs. At least that's how the Jets were probably feeling while Chad Pennington was taking a team with 1 or two wins the year before to the playoffs, while the Jets were left in shambles.

He's personally destroyed two franchises in a row. Now we get to see what happens to Minnesota.
Me thinks your Favre hated is clearly coloring your perspective of the facts to be clearly nonobjective. The numbers and the results and his success and MVP trophies clearly say that you are probably not looking at this with anything but a clear anti-Favre bias.
What success? He had less success in the Super Bowl than Trent Dilfer. A .500 record vs 100%.  Regular season MVP trophies don't mean much. You can't possibly compare them to rings. They're just popularity trophies. If you win an MVP and don't win the Super Bowl you're just Dirk Novitzki after the Warriors beat him.

Yes he has amazing numbers. When you stick around till you've warn out your welcome you end up with a ton of yards.

Your bias shines through once again. He took a very mediocre overall team and made it great by being the best player in the league the year they won the SB. He led that team to the Superbowl. He was the reason they were their.

Dilfer sucked and so did the Ravens offense. That team won a SB because of defense and defense only. Their offense was pitiful.

By your logic Dilfer is better than John Elway, .400 in SBs, Marino, .000 in SBs, Fran Tarkenton, .000 in SBs, and Jim Kelly, .000 in SBs though so I guess Dilfer is going into the Hall of Fame soon. ::)

As for your sticking around comment. If Favre had retired 4 years ago, he would still have the 2nd most passing yards of all time while playing 2 less years than Elway, Marino or Moon, so your comment makes zero sense.

Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #142 on: November 01, 2009, 10:41:02 PM »

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As a Packer's fan, I wish this thred would just go away.   :'(

Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #143 on: December 22, 2009, 12:28:04 PM »

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For the vast majority of the season Favre has absolutely shut me up.  Last three games his numbers look very human, and he has some weird controversy where he refused to come out of a game or something.

We'll see what happens

Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #144 on: December 22, 2009, 01:26:07 PM »

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Brett Favre is a great QB who makes his team better. All the talk from the Jets are from a bunch of losers who didn't appreciate Favre. Favre is just dumping on the Packers and Jets right now..

Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #145 on: December 22, 2009, 01:46:52 PM »

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I love when Brady/Favre comes up in the same sentence. Favre loss record is all on him and and he's called overrated. Brady wins and it has nothiing to do with the team/coaching he had around him. He must have played 1 vs 11 in all those games. Patriot d has had some changes and where are they now? Brady is a good qb and so is Favre. Favre had to deal with the likes of Sherman/TT as GM and Mcburger as coach. He has not had great minds working at the head of the org to put a team around him that could put them over the top since Wolf left. Yet despite that, he only had one sub .500 season after being in the league for these many years.

He didn't break all those records simply by playing all these years either. You don't hold all those stats w/o being a good qb.

Back to wanting Joe fired.

Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #146 on: January 17, 2010, 08:46:07 PM »

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Keith Brooking thinks Brett Favre is classless:

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After the second turnover on downs, Minnesota took over on Dallas' 37-yard line. With 5:26 remaining and the Vikes holding a nearly insurmountable lead, runs to milk the clock were expected. But after an Adrian Peterson run on first down, Favre hit Bernard Berrian(notes) for 19 yards on the next play. Two Peterson runs followed, before Favre threw a short three-yard pass to bring up fourth-and-three after the two minute warning.

Here, the Vikes had four choices: 1. They could take a knee and give Dallas the ball back for the game's final two minutes; 2. Wave a partial white flag and run the ball up the middle; 3. Kick a field goal (which also could have been percevied as running up the score); 4. Drop Favre back to attempt a pass.

Minnesota went with option No. 4 and Favre hit tight end Visanthe Shiancoe(notes) for an 11-yard touchdown. This choice did not go over well with Brooking. The Cowboys' linebacker, presumably upset because he felt Minnesota was running up the score, stormed over to the Vikings sideline and exchanged words with coaches and players, including Favre. He had yet to calm down after the game:

    "I thought it was totally classless and disrespectful. This is the NFL, that's not what this is about. I don't think there's a place for that ... I was looking for [Vikings coach Brad] Childress. I didn't think it was right, but they've got to see us next year."

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What do you think?  I wouldn't be throwing in that situation.  At the same time, I can't imagine any fan of Bill Belichick criticizing Favre and the Vikings here.

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Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #147 on: January 17, 2010, 08:48:27 PM »

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I think it was a stupid series of plays designed to pad Farve's playoff career TDs. A part of me wishes Buddy Ryan would somehow inspire the opposing coach to call for a zero blitz and just have a QB killed in that situation.

That's the real reason Vikings fans shouldn't be happy with it, there was a real chance that a Cowboy could have given Farve a concussion or another injury out of frustration.

Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #148 on: January 17, 2010, 09:48:04 PM »

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That final touchdown was for Nate Wright---Dallas built their entire "America's Team" crap on that NON call in 1975---which I'm still mad about..Hail Mary HA--Drew Pearson TOTALLY pushed off---then looked around for the Penalty Flag,which the gutless refs refused to throw.........Grrrrrrrrrrr--34 years ago---and,I'll never get over it!!

Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #149 on: January 17, 2010, 09:52:11 PM »

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If they don't like it then stop them.


In the mean time it's looking like Favre might prove me wrong for a lot of what I said about him.

We'll see.