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Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #45 on: August 18, 2009, 05:02:29 PM »

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I'd go so far as to say that Farve might be the single worst QB that ever won a Super Bowl and went to a Pro Bowl.

He has GOT to be the worst QB that ever did that and won an MVP.

He hasn't even been a top 12 QB in the league for years now.

There are a lot of QBs that are not so great that are better than him. Backups too

Chad Pennington
Matt Leinart
every QB drafted in the first round this year
Chris Simms
Jason Campbell
Billy Volek
Matt Cassell
maybe Jake Delhomme
maybe Trent Edwards
maybe Brady Quinn
maybe Derek Anderson
Mike Vick
maybe Jeff Garcia
Alex Smith

The strikethroughs are all mine... That's what I thought for right now. Favre can still somewhat play, but the ones I've left are guys I'd rather have in the playoffs at this point considering Favre can't be trusted at all to play within himself. Vick is the best bet to be next, if he comes back and plays like he did before. I don't like rookie quarterbacks period, but would definitely think that you would agree that you would rather have Favre then at least Josh Freeman, the QB Tampa took from Kansas State in the 1st round.

While I definitely think Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco are the exceptions and not the rule when it comes to rookie QBs if you pit Josh Freeman vs Brett Farve in a playoff game it's just a matter of who throws more picks. Freeman is more mobile and there's less film to study, so he might actually be the better choice. At least he's the unknown wild card. We know Farve can't lead a team to anything and hasn't been able to for over a decade

Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #46 on: August 18, 2009, 05:05:53 PM »

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There are probably a lot of Qbs that I think of as good Qbs that didn't accomplish what Farve did, and maybe I shouldn't but when I think

"Steve McNair" I think "Oh. He was a good QB"

When I think "Brett Farve" I think "Oh. He was a bad Qb" and then I think "and for some strange reason the media acted like he was good"

I think if the media hadn't acted like he was so good people wouldn't think of him as bad, but they tried to insult our intelligence and kept saying "Who are you going to believe? Us or your own eyes?" right after Brett would throw 4 picks in a playoff game
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Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #47 on: August 18, 2009, 05:07:13 PM »

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I'd go so far as to say that Farve might be the single worst QB that ever won a Super Bowl and went to a Pro Bowl.

He has GOT to be the worst QB that ever did that and won an MVP.

He hasn't even been a top 12 QB in the league for years now.

There are a lot of QBs that are not so great that are better than him. Backups too

Chad Pennington
Matt Leinart
every QB drafted in the first round this year
Chris Simms
Jason Campbell
Billy Volek
Matt Cassell
maybe Jake Delhomme
maybe Trent Edwards
maybe Brady Quinn
maybe Derek Anderson
Mike Vick
maybe Jeff Garcia
Alex Smith

The strikethroughs are all mine... That's what I thought for right now. Favre can still somewhat play, but the ones I've left are guys I'd rather have in the playoffs at this point considering Favre can't be trusted at all to play within himself. Vick is the best bet to be next, if he comes back and plays like he did before. I don't like rookie quarterbacks period, but would definitely think that you would agree that you would rather have Favre then at least Josh Freeman, the QB Tampa took from Kansas State in the 1st round.

While I definitely think Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco are the exceptions and not the rule when it comes to rookie QBs if you pit Josh Freeman vs Brett Farve in a playoff game it's just a matter of who throws more picks. Freeman is more mobile and there's less film to study, so he might actually be the better choice. At least he's the unknown wild card. We know Farve can't lead a team to anything and hasn't been able to for over a decade

Agree to disagree. I would definitely take Favre over a rookie QB against a playoff caliber defense.

However, the sentiment I agree with wholeheartedly. I freakin hate Brett Favre.
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Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #48 on: August 18, 2009, 05:11:58 PM »

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Eja, I think you're too easily dismissive of Favre's accomplishments. You have to be pretty good to make two SB's and almost win two. Saying career back-ups and journeymen are better than a HOF QB even on the downside of his career is a little silly IMHO. Favre has a major flaw, no doubt and it's the picks. But even with that flaw, I'll bet most coaches and GM's would rather have him than whatever fill-in-the gap, borderline starter/stiff they are going to trot out there this season. I know I'd welcome him on my sorry arse Broncos instead of Orton. A vast minority of teams start a guy better than Favre right now..

Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #49 on: August 18, 2009, 05:12:25 PM »

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To someone who knows more about football than me, what's Minny's reasoning for bringing in Favre?

Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #50 on: August 18, 2009, 05:16:05 PM »

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They think he will be better than sage rosenfels and Tavaris Jackson but he wont be.  He will cost yet another team their season
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Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #51 on: August 18, 2009, 05:29:01 PM »

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He's coming back because he wants to set a record for career interceptions that will never be broken.

LOL

I'm so sick of Favre!
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Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #52 on: August 18, 2009, 05:38:47 PM »

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favre retired, he's back, favre retired, he's back, favre retired, he's back, favre retired, he's back, favre retired, he's back, favre retired, he's back, favre retired, he's back, favre retired, he's back, no wait he retired, no wait he's back.

Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #53 on: August 18, 2009, 05:45:10 PM »

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Here this one is better.

1st and 10 Favre drops back to pass, no wait he is going to retire, play stops, no wait he wants to play again he rolls left, no wait he wants to retire, now he's coming back he rolls right spots an open man downfield, throws the ball and.......he retires, ball is still in there, now he wants to play ball is caught at the 30 by Adrian Peterson, Peterson at the 5 and.....favre retires play stops no touchdown, no wait favre wants to play again touchdown!!  now favre retires extra point is no good, no wait he's coming back and its through the uprights!!    flag on the field:favre retires, no wait he wants to play no penatly.

Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #54 on: August 18, 2009, 05:57:57 PM »

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Some of you guys are out of your mind. Saying Favre is a bad QB and saying he was always bad are two different things. The guy led the league in TD passes for three straight years. He won three straight MVPs. He passed for over 4000 yards 5 times. He was an All Pro 3 times and a Pro Bowler 10 times. He leads in a bunch of career stats for QBs.

As a current QB, he's not good and he's never been a smart QB, otherwise, he would probably have been considered the best of all time possibly. But let's not urinate on his legacy because he's not a likeable guy. He was an awesome QB for many, many years.

Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #55 on: August 18, 2009, 06:00:48 PM »

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He's too much of a narcissist to walk away.

Favre loves himself way more than he loves the game.  Nick, Favre doesn't need any of us to urinate on his legacy.  He's doing a fine job of that himself.

Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #56 on: August 18, 2009, 06:15:53 PM »

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Eja, I think you're too easily dismissive of Favre's accomplishments. You have to be pretty good to make two SB's and almost win two. Saying career back-ups and journeymen are better than a HOF QB even on the downside of his career is a little silly IMHO. Favre has a major flaw, no doubt and it's the picks. But even with that flaw, I'll bet most coaches and GM's would rather have him than whatever fill-in-the gap, borderline starter/stiff they are going to trot out there this season. I know I'd welcome him on my sorry arse Broncos instead of Orton. A vast minority of teams start a guy better than Favre right now..

In his hey dey he was a top 3 Qb for sure. But after the 2nd Super Bowl when his favored team lost to a QB in his last two years who just wanted it more Farve's career fell off a cliff. He lost more big games than won for a decade straght. He took good teams and single handedly delivered them losses. He didn't just lose or fail to get over a hump or whatever. He personally went out and lost the game and there was nothing the other 52 players on the team could do about it. That's bad.

I don't think a lot of guys I listed ever did that except maybe Alex Smith who still has potential. Those guys have futures. Farve doesn't.

Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #57 on: August 18, 2009, 06:17:37 PM »

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Some of you guys are out of your mind. Saying Favre is a bad QB and saying he was always bad are two different things. The guy led the league in TD passes for three straight years. He won three straight MVPs. He passed for over 4000 yards 5 times. He was an All Pro 3 times and a Pro Bowler 10 times. He leads in a bunch of career stats for QBs.

As a current QB, he's not good and he's never been a smart QB, otherwise, he would probably have been considered the best of all time possibly. But let's not urinate on his legacy because he's not a likeable guy. He was an awesome QB for many, many years.

My only point with this is that he's been bad since about 1999. Last century/millenium. So he was good for like 6 years and then bad for about 11 or something. Something like that. How can a guy like that go to the HOF?

Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #58 on: August 18, 2009, 06:25:17 PM »

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Some of you guys are out of your mind. Saying Favre is a bad QB and saying he was always bad are two different things. The guy led the league in TD passes for three straight years. He won three straight MVPs. He passed for over 4000 yards 5 times. He was an All Pro 3 times and a Pro Bowler 10 times. He leads in a bunch of career stats for QBs.

As a current QB, he's not good and he's never been a smart QB, otherwise, he would probably have been considered the best of all time possibly. But let's not urinate on his legacy because he's not a likeable guy. He was an awesome QB for many, many years.

My only point with this is that he's been bad since about 1999. Last century/millenium. So he was good for like 6 years and then bad for about 11 or something. Something like that. How can a guy like that go to the HOF?

Bad is an overstatement.

Re: Brett Favre Back...Again
« Reply #59 on: August 18, 2009, 06:33:01 PM »

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I'd go so far as to say that Farve might be the single worst QB that ever won a Super Bowl and went to a Pro Bowl.

He has GOT to be the worst QB that ever did that and won an MVP.

He hasn't even been a top 12 QB in the league for years now.

There are a lot of QBs that are not so great that are better than him. Backups too

Chad Pennington
Matt Leinart
every QB drafted in the first round this year
Chris Simms
Jason Campbell
Billy Volek
Matt Cassell
maybe Jake Delhomme
maybe Trent Edwards
maybe Brady Quinn
maybe Derek Anderson
Mike Vick
maybe Jeff Garcia
Alex Smith

The strikethroughs are all mine... That's what I thought for right now. Favre can still somewhat play, but the ones I've left are guys I'd rather have in the playoffs at this point considering Favre can't be trusted at all to play within himself. Vick is the best bet to be next, if he comes back and plays like he did before. I don't like rookie quarterbacks period, but would definitely think that you would agree that you would rather have Favre then at least Josh Freeman, the QB Tampa took from Kansas State in the 1st round.

While I definitely think Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco are the exceptions and not the rule when it comes to rookie QBs if you pit Josh Freeman vs Brett Farve in a playoff game it's just a matter of who throws more picks. Freeman is more mobile and there's less film to study, so he might actually be the better choice. At least he's the unknown wild card. We know Farve can't lead a team to anything and hasn't been able to for over a decade

He lead the packers to a 13-3 record and a conference championship game 2 years ago.