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who would be at the center spot for the bench?

sheed
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shelden
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BBD
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Scalabrine
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Bill Walker
1 (1.5%)

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Voting closed: August 18, 2009, 08:40:45 PM

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Re: who would be backing up Perkins if postseason moves are over?
« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2009, 02:16:19 PM »

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I do not see Sheed coming for Perkins.

Fouls not an issue KG should be the first one on the bench.  Sheed should be coming for him.

BBD should be backing up Perk when he picks up his 2nd or in the regular rotation.

The other team's bigs plays a factor in this obviously, but this is what makes sense to me.

Re: who would be backing up Perkins if postseason moves are over?
« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2009, 02:22:31 PM »

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Sheed will be the first big off the bench no matter what for our rotations.

Re: who would be backing up Perkins if postseason moves are over?
« Reply #32 on: August 18, 2009, 02:42:37 PM »

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I do not see Sheed coming for Perkins.

Fouls not an issue KG should be the first one on the bench.  Sheed should be coming for him.

BBD should be backing up Perk when he picks up his 2nd or in the regular rotation.

The other team's bigs plays a factor in this obviously, but this is what makes sense to me.

Yea, and then when Baby comes in, Sheed should move to center, IMO.

I bet we see Sheed in all of the crunch time lineups. Doc loves to have his offense spaced for plays at the end of the game. He's not the biggest fan of having Rondo/Perk: two non-jumpshooters, in at the same time in crunch time.

Re: who would be backing up Perkins if postseason moves are over?
« Reply #33 on: August 18, 2009, 02:55:44 PM »

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I do not see Sheed coming for Perkins.

Fouls not an issue KG should be the first one on the bench.  Sheed should be coming for him.

BBD should be backing up Perk when he picks up his 2nd or in the regular rotation.

The other team's bigs plays a factor in this obviously, but this is what makes sense to me.

I agree that will likely be the order that the players come in to the game.  But I think this just shows how pointless it is to argue over who is backing up KG and who is backing up Perkins. 

The C's have 4 rotation big men, and all of them are somewhat interchangable, and can play next to any other of the 4, depending on the matchups. 

The NBA is not about PG, SG, SF, PF, C anymore.  It is about maximizing mismatches.  Sometimes you will have a SF playing PF, and a PF playing C.  Sometimes you will have a SG playing PG, or a C playing PF.  This team has a lot of versatility, and they will mix and match to give themselves the best chance to win. 

Re: who would be backing up Perkins if postseason moves are over?
« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2009, 03:12:31 PM »

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I believe it will vary depending on the match-up.  Doc has shown a history of mixing and matching, and I think he'll do the same this season.

In one series he may decide to use Sheed primarily as a back-up depending on who the C is on the other team.  The next series it could be Baby.  Baby did a fantastic job on Tim Duncan for instance, and Doc may prefer to go to that match-up if the teams were squaring off, and let Sheed roam at PF. 

This is the great thing about having such a diversely talented group of big men.

Re: who would be backing up Perkins if postseason moves are over?
« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2009, 03:15:19 PM »

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I believe it will vary depending on the match-up.  Doc has shown a history of mixing and matching, and I think he'll do the same this season.

In one series he may decide to use Sheed primarily as a back-up depending on who the C is on the other team.  The next series it could be Baby.  Baby did a fantastic job on Tim Duncan for instance, and Doc may prefer to go to that match-up if the teams were squaring off, and let Sheed roam at PF. 

This is the great thing about having such a diversely talented group of big men.

Unless Sheed is playing like crap, I don't see any matchup situation in which he'll bring out Baby before Sheed. It just wont happen.

Re: who would be backing up Perkins if postseason moves are over?
« Reply #36 on: August 18, 2009, 03:22:02 PM »

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I believe it will vary depending on the match-up.  Doc has shown a history of mixing and matching, and I think he'll do the same this season.

In one series he may decide to use Sheed primarily as a back-up depending on who the C is on the other team.  The next series it could be Baby.  Baby did a fantastic job on Tim Duncan for instance, and Doc may prefer to go to that match-up if the teams were squaring off, and let Sheed roam at PF. 

This is the great thing about having such a diversely talented group of big men.

Unless Sheed is playing like crap, I don't see any matchup situation in which he'll bring out Baby before Sheed. It just wont happen.

How about ilgauskas who Baby has had great success against before?  Or how about Duncan as in the example I gave in my first post?  You think this is impossible (unless Sheed is playing like crap?)

Re: who would be backing up Perkins if postseason moves are over?
« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2009, 03:23:44 PM »

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I believe it will vary depending on the match-up.  Doc has shown a history of mixing and matching, and I think he'll do the same this season.

In one series he may decide to use Sheed primarily as a back-up depending on who the C is on the other team.  The next series it could be Baby.  Baby did a fantastic job on Tim Duncan for instance, and Doc may prefer to go to that match-up if the teams were squaring off, and let Sheed roam at PF. 

This is the great thing about having such a diversely talented group of big men.

Unless Sheed is playing like crap, I don't see any matchup situation in which he'll bring out Baby before Sheed. It just wont happen.

How about ilgauskas who Baby has had great success against before?  Or how about Duncan as in the example I gave in my first post?  You think this is impossible (unless Sheed is playing like crap?)
I think Sheed defends both of the those players much better than Baby.

Re: who would be backing up Perkins if postseason moves are over?
« Reply #38 on: August 18, 2009, 03:34:58 PM »

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I believe it will vary depending on the match-up.  Doc has shown a history of mixing and matching, and I think he'll do the same this season.

In one series he may decide to use Sheed primarily as a back-up depending on who the C is on the other team.  The next series it could be Baby.  Baby did a fantastic job on Tim Duncan for instance, and Doc may prefer to go to that match-up if the teams were squaring off, and let Sheed roam at PF. 

This is the great thing about having such a diversely talented group of big men.

Unless Sheed is playing like crap, I don't see any matchup situation in which he'll bring out Baby before Sheed. It just wont happen.

How about ilgauskas who Baby has had great success against before?  Or how about Duncan as in the example I gave in my first post?  You think this is impossible (unless Sheed is playing like crap?)
I think Sheed defends both of the those players much better than Baby.

Well I guess we'll just have to wait and see.  However, we already have witnessed Baby being incredibly effective against both of them.  And considering Doc's history of playing match-ups I don't see it as so out of the realm of possibility that he may elect to use something that has proven to succeed in the past.  I'm not claiming that this is indeed the right thing to do, but I do believe Doc will continue to use strategies that he's employed for years.  It used to be one game Baby and the next Leon Powe, depending on the match-up.  That is why I stand by my assertion, in response to what the thread is originally about, that he will use whichever he believes will work the best (and his choice may indeed be Baby.)

None of us obviously knows that right now so, as I said before, We'll just have to wait and see.

Re: who would be backing up Perkins if postseason moves are over?
« Reply #39 on: August 18, 2009, 03:36:04 PM »

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I believe it will vary depending on the match-up.  Doc has shown a history of mixing and matching, and I think he'll do the same this season.

In one series he may decide to use Sheed primarily as a back-up depending on who the C is on the other team.  The next series it could be Baby.  Baby did a fantastic job on Tim Duncan for instance, and Doc may prefer to go to that match-up if the teams were squaring off, and let Sheed roam at PF. 

This is the great thing about having such a diversely talented group of big men.

Unless Sheed is playing like crap, I don't see any matchup situation in which he'll bring out Baby before Sheed. It just wont happen.

How about ilgauskas who Baby has had great success against before?  Or how about Duncan as in the example I gave in my first post?  You think this is impossible (unless Sheed is playing like crap?)

Yep. Sheed is a better defender anyways.

Now if during the course of a game Davis looks like he's doing a better job than Sheed, then Davis will get the playing time. But coming in first off the bench? I can come up with a scenario in which our players are healthy and Davis getting the nod other than Sheed playing like crap.

Re: who would be backing up Perkins if postseason moves are over?
« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2009, 03:38:24 PM »

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See I'm not sure where you get the idea that BBD plays TD all that well. Perkins defends him much better and Tim did pretty well against Boston both years BBD has been on the team.

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Re: who would be backing up Perkins if postseason moves are over?
« Reply #41 on: August 18, 2009, 03:39:14 PM »

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See I'm not sure where you get the idea that BBD plays TD all that well. Perkins defends him much better and Tim did pretty well against Boston both years BBD has been on the team.

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It comes from that one game in which Davis played him very well in the absence of Garnett. I wouldn't count on it being the norm. In a playoff game, for example, Duncan would eat him for lunch.

Re: who would be backing up Perkins if postseason moves are over?
« Reply #42 on: August 18, 2009, 03:45:39 PM »

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See I'm not sure where you get the idea that BBD plays TD all that well. Perkins defends him much better and Tim did pretty well against Boston both years BBD has been on the team.

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It comes from that one game in which Davis played him very well in the absence of Garnett. I would count on it being the norm.
One game? Why not take into consideration the other three games?

Re: who would be backing up Perkins if postseason moves are over?
« Reply #43 on: August 18, 2009, 03:50:58 PM »

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See I'm not sure where you get the idea that BBD plays TD all that well. Perkins defends him much better and Tim did pretty well against Boston both years BBD has been on the team.

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It comes from that one game in which Davis played him very well in the absence of Garnett. I would count on it being the norm.
One game? Why not take into consideration the other three games?

Overall he's done a decent job, but the reputation comes from one game in which he made Tim Duncan pretty much a non-factor. It's really hard to tell since it has been usually Garnett and Perk guarding him. But that's from where the rep comes from. But as I said, if this were a playoff game Tim Duncan would eat him for lunch.

Re: Poll: Who should be the first center off the bench?
« Reply #44 on: August 18, 2009, 04:13:35 PM »

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Why are BBD, scal, and Bill Walker on this list?

BBD played a bunch of back up C last year.

It was him or Mikki Moore... I'd wather have BDD at the 4. No doubt.