What if Ray Allen continues his shooting slump from last season

[Jon]

Let's please cool it with the "stupid" and "ridiculous" comments.  I have a soft spot for Ray, too, but let's be as respectful as possible.

Perhaps ridiculous was a bit strong; however, as you point out Roy, he literally had 4 bad games in the playoffs.  I'm fine with questioning whether Ray's athleticism and health will fail him, but Ray Allen will be able to hit a jumper when he's 50. 

[RAcker]

Where is RayRay4MVP?  She would frown upon this thread.   

[ScalPal]

Unfortunately I feel that Ray is cooked. As a coach when you see a catch and shoot player lose his legs to injury and age as much as he has in the last 2 years you start to wonder how many minutes he should be on the floor. I think at this point Ray is best suited for 20-25 mins a night off the bench as a 6th man. It would be great if we had a young 2 that could start but have a reliable guy like Ray behind him.

[Roy Hobbs]

Unfortunately I feel that Ray is cooked. As a coach when you see a catch and shoot player lose his legs to injury and age as much as he has in the last 2 years you start to wonder how many minutes he should be on the floor. I think at this point Ray is best suited for 20-25 mins a night off the bench as a 6th man. It would be great if we had a young 2 that could start but have a reliable guy like Ray behind him.

Ray had, by far, the most efficient season of his career last year, and he averaged over 23 points per game against Chicago (including scoring 51 points against them).  He played *59* minutes in one game in the playoffs.

I don't think he's cooked.  I just think he was defended well, injured, and tired against Orlando.  He's fine playing 30 or so minutes per game, in my opinion, and more in the playoffs.

[wdleehi]

the KG factor is also being put back into place.  No leaving the PF to double Ray.

[Ed Teach]

You can count me in the Ray had a great season last year.
If he matches last year I will be extremly pleased.
I think that the number of min that SugarRay played in the playoffs and the reg season caught up with him along with a bad hammy.  I need to look it up but I think had the highest number of min in both the reg season and the post season.

With the additional depth of the team next year, I am expecting another career year for Ray.

[dark_lord]

I'm excited with our offseason moves and all, but on the flipside what about some of the things from last season that didnt go so well?

One thing that comes to mind: Rays poor shooting/slump

If he continues with that crap we might be in for a dissapointing season (as much as I hate to say it; rays offense is huge and a major part of our chemistry and us winning games )

Unfortunately I feel that Ray is cooked. As a coach when you see a catch and shoot player lose his legs to injury and age as much as he has in the last 2 years you start to wonder how many minutes he should be on the floor. I think at this point Ray is best suited for 20-25 mins a night off the bench as a 6th man. It would be great if we had a young 2 that could start but have a reliable guy like Ray behind him.

to both of you i ask...based on his performance and numbers last season, what made u come to this conclusion? 

if anything, im extra comfortable/confident in his ability, seeing how we will be healthy and are deeper, thus his load is lightened a bit.

[xmuscularghandix]

this is ridiculous 

A 30+ year old player, who is a lock for the hall of fame, set career highs in efficiency... and your talking about his shooting slump?

[kheeko]

Unfortunately I feel that Ray is cooked. As a coach when you see a catch and shoot player lose his legs to injury and age as much as he has in the last 2 years you start to wonder how many minutes he should be on the floor. I think at this point Ray is best suited for 20-25 mins a night off the bench as a 6th man. It would be great if we had a young 2 that could start but have a reliable guy like Ray behind him.

Yup but Ray is god around here how dare us say anything on the flip side of hes a legend pure shooter the best oMG lol

I mainly meant his slump toward the end of playoffs magic series and during the season whatvrs on paper did seem he was more off than on

[guava_wrench]

Unfortunately I feel that Ray is cooked. As a coach when you see a catch and shoot player lose his legs to injury and age as much as he has in the last 2 years you start to wonder how many minutes he should be on the floor. I think at this point Ray is best suited for 20-25 mins a night off the bench as a 6th man. It would be great if we had a young 2 that could start but have a reliable guy like Ray behind him.

Yup but Ray is god around here how dare us say anything on the flip side of hes a legend pure shooter the best oMG lol

I mainly meant his slump toward the end of playoffs magic series and during the season whatvrs on paper did seem he was more off than on

You expect too much if you get bothered by a player having an off series, especially after the way Ray performed last year.

I don't think the people concerned with Ray have showed anything to be concerned about.

[xmuscularghandix]

Unfortunately I feel that Ray is cooked. As a coach when you see a catch and shoot player lose his legs to injury and age as much as he has in the last 2 years you start to wonder how many minutes he should be on the floor. I think at this point Ray is best suited for 20-25 mins a night off the bench as a 6th man. It would be great if we had a young 2 that could start but have a reliable guy like Ray behind him.

Yup but Ray is god around here how dare us say anything on the flip side of hes a legend pure shooter the best oMG lol

I mainly meant his slump toward the end of playoffs magic series and during the season whatvrs on paper did seem he was more off than on

You expect too much if you get bothered by a player having an off series, especially after the way Ray performed last year.

I don't think the people concerned with Ray have showed anything to be concerned about.

good call.

We're done in the first round if not for Ray.

[BudweiserCeltic]

I really don't care about his shooting. The only thing that concerns me regarding him aside from health, is that little by little he's becoming easier to guard... aside from that a lot of his success is tied up to our PG play, particularly with the role they have him playing. It's very important to give him the ball when he makes himself available, especially with an accurate pass. Rondo improved quite a bit in this regard last year (after he sucked ass early on in the season)... I expect him to keep improving.

As much as Cassell and Marbury sucked, one thing they did very well was timing their passes for people coming off screens and passing the ball accurately so that it allows a catch and shot guy to do everything in one fluid motion.

[mgent]

Ray Allen was pretty much the reason we lost against Orlando.  Of course we wouldn't have needed him if KG was out there, but if he had stepped up and had 7 great games like Rondo did versus Chicago, we could've pulled off a victory. 

[FLCeltsFan]

Ray was playing with a strained hamstring in the playoffs.  He never used it as an excuse and it never was mentioned until after the season but would account for a shooting slump.

[Roy Hobbs]

Ray Allen was pretty much the reason we lost against Orlando.  Of course we wouldn't have needed him if KG was out there, but if he had stepped up and had 7 great games like Rondo did versus Chicago, we could've pulled off a victory. 

First, Rondo didn't have seven great games against Chicago.

Second, in Game 7 against, Ray had 23 points on 50% shooting.  His teammates?  Paul shot 4-for-13 and had 16 points.  Perk shot 3-for-11 and had 8 points.  Rondo had 10 points on 40% shooting.  Eddie, Scal, and Starbury shot a combined 3-for-12. 

That's not to put the blame on those other players, but rather is to point out that you can't pin an entire series on one guy.