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Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Southeast Divison
« Reply #60 on: August 07, 2009, 03:03:08 PM »

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Orlando, best team in the division.  Sure to go deep in the playoffs.

But just like Lebron's real team, there looks like there is no one that has proven to be a big time scorer in the clutch part of the playoffs.

How are you preparing the supporting cast for when they run into the deep defensive team late in the playoffs? (SA, Boston and Orlando are the three examples in real life)



Wdleehi -- this issue came up (in various forms) in the draft thread. And Lucky17 and I certainly talked about Lebron's teams' past leading into the draft.

I think this is a case where the conventional wisdom --- that Lebron needs a big time scorer to carry the load --- is actually wrong. We believe that it's not Scoring that Lebron needs help with... it's really everything else. And that this is the mistake Danny Ferry & Mike Brown made last season.

IMO, Lebron is such a dominant offensive force & skilled distributor we decided to put guys around him that were capable, efficient and multi-skilled at the non-scoring aspects of the game. Lebron is also one of those rare players that the cliched holds true, "he makes others around him better" because of his passing and the attention the defense has to pay him.

So we have an efficient PG (Hinrich) who can hit the open shot when doubled off of, a offensively gifted if not dominant SG in Richardson, a big man who can shoot from outside and draw his man out of the paint (Villanueva) and 3 other bigs to crash the boards on both ends (Gasol, Foster, Varejao).

Here are 2 examples that I think support this idea:

1. CLE's 2006-07 Finals run
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This is the model for a team built around Lebron.

CLE: At PG, Eric Snow was steady and unspectacular with 4 ppg, but an a robust 2.9 ast:to ratio. Boobie Gibson came in and added 8 points in the playoffs, double his season average. Combined Snow/Gibson averaged 10pts/3 ast/3 reb/1 3pt in the playoffs
ORL: We have Hinrich who we're confident will meet those averages (he did as a reserve in CHI last year). He has a 2.5 asst:to ratio and is a better defender than either Snow or Gibson. Telfair's contributions then will be gravy.

CLE: At SG, Larry Hughes was the next best offensive talent scoring 15 ppg, but his playoff average dropped to 11 ppg. He added nearly 4 reb/3 asst though.
ORL: Jason Richardson is a better scorer and all-around player than Hughes; Richardson raised his average 3 points in the DAL playoff upset and grabbed 2 more rebounds than he had during that season. Ultimately JRic is the guy that defenses have to be most mindful of.

CLE: At PF, Drew Gooden and Donyell Marshall combined for 15 pts, 10 reb, and the threat of a 3pt with Marshall (0.5 for the playoffs)
ORL: Villanueva will stretch the defenses like Marshall did at times and Foster alone would match Gooden's rebounding. Even if Villanueva only grabs 4-5 boards a game, were stronger at the PF spot.

CLE: At C, Ilgauskas and Varejao brought 18 pts, 16 rebounds night in and night out.
ORL: Gasol is not quite the outsider shooter Big Z was but is a bit more mobile and just as good a rebounder. Varejao is better now than he was then --- our Bigs will be able to rebound better, IMO than, CLE did throughout the playoff run to the Finals

CLE: Pavlovic and Damon Jones --- other bench guys who brouht outisde shooting
ORL: Afflalo & McGuire are not as offensively talented as Pavlovic/Jones, but they bring more defense freeing up JRich and Lebron to carry a bigger offensive load.


2. CLE/BOS epic game 7 (the Pierce/Lebron game)
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In the full playoffs for CLE in 2008, the 2-4 leading scorers were: Big Z (13.1), Delonte (10.8), Wally (10.8   ), Gibson (9.0) --- a respectible distribution that we're confident Hinrich, Richardson, Villanueve, and Gasol can match.

In that awesome Game 7, the thing that terrified me as a Celtics fan wasn't that those 4 guys would get their averages but that Lebron would take over and will the team to victory. And our fears were nearly realized:

Lebron - 45 pts
Delonte - 15 pts
Big Z - 8 pts
Pavlovic - 7 pts
Joe Smith - 6 pts

No one else had more than 5 pts, but the Cavs were 1 loose ball that Pierce got to first from winning.


Summary
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In a game 7, we're going as far as Lebron takes us --- which is far. To get to that game 7, JRich, Hinrich and Villanueva will ease the offensive load and are good enough shooters/scorers that they'll feast on the opportunities created by our primary distributor (Hinrich) and secondary distributor (Lebron).

Our offense is going to be run by Hinrich, but much of it will go through Lebron. Less diversification, not more, is really what CLE's offense lacked in the last year and their defense got worse as Z & Wallace got older. It's the threat of that secondary offense (Richardson, Hinrich, Villanueva) that we have more of than teams Lebron has been on in the past --- and we think this will lead the way to him realizing his full, dominant offensive potential.


Problem with looking at his old teams, they all bombed out.  In all cases, if one player had stepped up to hurt the other team for putting so much attention on Lebron, they might have won a title. 

Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Southeast Divison
« Reply #61 on: August 07, 2009, 03:13:31 PM »

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Well it should come as no surprise that I like a lot of Washington's roster. I think Pryzbilla and Sessions are good bookends. I like Gerald Wallace in the middle, and I like the attitude Stephen Jackson brings to your team (passion), but I don't think he fits nearly as well as you'd like.

He's an older craftier stephen jackson. I don't think he can play the 2 at an elite level, but I think as a super sub off the bench he'd be perfect for your team. Keep his numbers down and this guy could carry your second unit for the next 5 years, and with Anthony Morrow emerging as a viable NBA player, and Gerald Wallace with the ever present risk of missing time, S-Jax would be the perfect guy to play the 3/small ball 4 for you.

Also, incorporating a bigger "small ball" philiosophy could be exactly what you need. Pryzbilla needs to play 25 mins a night or less, period. I know we disagree here but your evidence is individual games, and mine is an entire body of work with clear statistical trends. Giving Darko or Scola 5 more mins a night at center while S-jax mans the PF makes you a dangerous team, especially with the Magic. They don't have 3 players that can guard Morrow/Wallace/Jackson simultaneously, unless you think Dominick Mcguire is reliable as an elite defender.


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Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Southeast Divison
« Reply #62 on: August 07, 2009, 03:17:02 PM »

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Charlotte any worries starting 3 rookies and a second year player? Of the top of my head, I can't think of a team that started three rookies.

Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Southeast Divison
« Reply #63 on: August 07, 2009, 03:17:59 PM »

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Nobody who surrounds Lebron James has ever even flirted with an all-star appearance. That's not this team's strength though, its in the team's depth. Deepest frontcourt in the league, no question.

Also on the wings, McGuire, Hassell and Afflalo all saw a decent amount of playing time last year. I hate Lawson and Telfair as the backup points, but you can't please everybody.

I would've liked to see more veteran presence on this team. Guys like Manu Ginobli, or Derrick Fisher would've gone a long way to help my confidence in this team.

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Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Southeast Divison
« Reply #64 on: August 07, 2009, 03:27:06 PM »

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Regarding the criticism of the DC Boxers by the brother of the NY Knicks general manager. I am sorry if I have had the stance that the general manager of the Knicks should have stepped down if he was not going to completely participate in this endeavor. Many other blog members were interested in becoming members of teams and would have given 100% participation which would have enhanced the game for all players involved. If your brother, a brother of a moderator at CB, was not the owner of the Knicks, it is my stance his team would have been passed on to someone else. Instead we have to assume he made his picks though the actions of others and that he is allowed to skip league mandated press conferences.

As for his team being better than the Boxers, let's see:

NY has Deron Williams, a great PG, Vince Carter, a selfish all for me and my stats player, Kendrick Perkins, a good defensive but offensively challenged center, and a bunch of rookies and soft defenders and left overs. His team chemistry makes no sense and neither does his drafting

Williams/Dooling
Carter/Buckner
Williams/Maxiel
Sefelosha/Balkman
Perk/Rasho/Krstic   this is is depth chart with 4 rookies from the worse draft since the Kenyon Martin Draft and you expect them to compete with players the caliber of Jackson, Wallace, Sessions, Scola, Przybilla(who is every bit as good as Perk right now), Hill(who was outstanding in place of TP last year), Morrow(the league's leading three point shooter by a wide margin), Wright(an up and coming defensive stopper that was brilliant in summer league and in the Hornets off season workouts) and Gadzuric(who is every bit as good as Rasho).

Now take the individuals players out and take a look at the makeup, tools, attitudes, the experience and chemistry of the talent assembled. The Boxers clearly makes sense. The Knicks does not.

I don't know if the Boxers will make the playoffs or not. The go against some conventional themes as to how to make an NBA winner. There's no super duper star. They are fairly young. there's no go to offensive player to dominate late game.

But they have tons of players with multiple excellent skills. They are great defenders. The are relatively injury free recently. They all have good attitudes towards the team concept and they are all easy to coach.

This will be a team who's whole will be greater than the sum of it's parts like no other in this league and I believe if they make the playoffs and get into 7 game series with team, the match ups will be very, very difficult for opposing teams to beat.


First suggestion, know who is actually on the team.


2nd


Williams > Sessions
Carter > Jackson
Williams > Wallace (Wallace is TA with a chance to start on a bad team)
Kristic < Scola(except if Kristic returns to a form closer to his NJ days)
Perk > Przybilla


bench

Maxiell is the best player on either bench.  He will be a starter this year in Detroit.  Has a lot of playoff experience. 

Gadz is good against one team, Boston.  That's it.  His numbers have been dropping since. 

Thabo and Drooling are defensive role players. 


And Walton (though I don't like him) is a solid role player on the Lakers. 



I am starting to think this wanting to overlook the Knicks as a ploy to get yourself into the playoffs. 
After that comparison I'm serious starting to question your eye for basketball talent. Or maybe it's not your brother's team I'm criticizing it is your second team?? Hence you seeming to get so involved in it's defense.

And again, as I have said many times, I don't believe in the "this- player-is-better-than-that-and-that-player-is-better-than-this-and-I-have-8-players-that-are-better-than-your-and-you-only-have-5-players-that-are-better-than-mine-so-I-win-I-have-the-better-team". I think that's as crazy a way to compare teams as it is to compare player value based on where they were chosen in the draft. The whole "I'm-not-going-to-draft-a-3rd rounder-for-a-5th-rounder-because-if-I-wanted-him-that-much-I-would-have-drafted-him-in-the-3rd-round." I think both game philosophies are unimaginative and completely out of touch with how the real NBA game is perceived and ran.

I stand by my team and will debate the merits of my team versus that of any other team versus their general manager. If the GM of the Knicks feels so strongly about their team maybe he should have come out here and presented a press conference and defended criticisms aimed at his team. Instead, his brother is upset that people are taking exception that he pulled strings to have his brother keep a team while doing no work and now when owners see it as unfair to them and to friends who were not allowed to get their own team because a mod's brother was allowed to keep his while in essence not playing the game. So what does the brother do? He brings up bad comparisons against my team because I'm the most vocal.

Sorry but I feel NY is a terrible team with one good player and a mess of others. they don't belong in the running for a playoff spot. They aren't that good.

Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Southeast Divison
« Reply #65 on: August 07, 2009, 03:29:49 PM »

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sorry for the delay -- got called out of the office.


Questions for the Magics:

1) In the real NBA Lebron James has been eliminated in the playoffs the past three season by teams with better supporting stars (Spurs: Duncan had Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili), (Celtics: KG had Pierce, and Ray), and (Orlando: Howard had Hedo, and Rashard). Cleveland hasn't gotten it done with Big Z, Mo "all star " Willimas, Larry Hughes, Ben Wallace etc.  You have a team that should guarantee getting to the 2nd round of the playoffs, but who will be the sidekick star that Lebron has always been missing and experts say he needs to win it all?

See my response above to Wdleehi, i was typing it while you posted these questions i guess. a few other points:

-- generally i think the "experts" are wrong in saying Lebron needs a sidekick who's dominant. He needs good players around him at every position. Like Wade did with a generally talented MIAMI team, put competent, fundamentally sound guys around him and Lebron can do the rest.

-- The Spurs were a better *team* top-to-bottom than the Cavs and CLE had no answer for Duncan and Parker. Our goal was to deal with that problem with depth up front (deepest in the league) and at the wing positions (Afflalo, McGuire, Hassell, Wilkins aren't world beaters but they're athletic and capable --- unlike CLE's bench last year).

-- the Boston series was back-and-forth, like i said if Pierce doesn't get that loose ball or PJ Brown hit that shot, CLE probably advances (and I'm soooo glad they didn't).

-- This year i think Mike Brown listened too much to those "experts" and went away from letting Lebron dominate. They also couldn't slow D. Howard with Big Z, Ben Wallace's corpse, an 80-year old Joe Smith. Our 4 bigs plus Arthur and Anthony WILL slow down any big. Might not stop them but will slow them down to the point where they're not the best player on the court.


2) Marc Gasol put up good numbers last year on a losing Memphis team, yet they went out and drafted a defensive Center with the #2 overall pick and then traded for a low post scorer after the draft. Charlie V also put up good numbers on a losing Milwaukee team, but they didn't choose to keep him and went with Amir Johnson. How comfortable are you with these two players starting or do you see a possible switch to Foster and/or Varejoa come playoff time.

Gasol --- don't mean to sound flip, but the fact that Chris Wallace took a center at #2 means nothing to us re: Gasol. Wallace also was the moron who elected to take DEN's #1 pick option so he could take Kedrick Brown rather than wait a year or 2 to get a better lottery pick in deeper drafts. In Wallace's (possible) defense, I do believe you can never have enough bigs if you're gunning for a title.

Villanueva -- MIL was wise not to overpay for him (though again, they gave away Richard Jefferson, so they're not really a model to emulate). But just because we isn't worth the $8M/yr DET paid for him, doesn't mean that he isn't a talented player. There are concerns about his consistency, but like I said our plan is to cut down on the # of things he has to do.

Foster/Varejao -- Yes. We see them both playing a bigger role in the playoffs --- when every possession is more important and they're rebounding and defense will be crucial on the nights Villanueva is more concerned with Tweeting than rebounding (a joke...)



3) The real Bulls have had a love/hate relationship with hinrich as a starting point guard. he's versatile as a third guard b/c he can play defense on two guards. I like him offensively off the ball with Lebron, but will he be able to stop super quick point guards on defense? Jason Richardson didn't help the Bobcats, but the Bobcats started winning after he was traded. How will he be a good fit for your slow down offense? Is Telfair a good fit as an off the ball pg with Lebron or does he need the ball in his hands?


Hinrich --- Lucky and I both think Hinrich's in the top 15-20 PGs, he's not a perennial all-star but won't do much to hurt you -- maybe a more talented Derek Fisher. He may struggle a little with the quicker PGs like CP3, but in a playoff series vs. CHI we're totally comfortable with taking a page from LA's book vs. BOS and putting Lebron on CP3 for 10 min/gm and letting the 6-3 Hinrich cover the 6-5 Raja Bell (or Afflalo or Hassell). Lebron is quick and big enough to frustrtate CP3 in short stints.

Richardson --- CHA won 32 games with him in 07-08 and 35 in 08-09 (JR played in the first 14).... don't know how much you can really draw from that. Richardson is a very good SG -- we think top 15 --- and is big, athletic and likes to run. We're not gonna be the Showtime Lakers but any team with Richadson, Lebron and Hinrich are gonna get some flare outs for big dunks. Hate to sound like a broken record, but if Baron Davis was reason #1 why GSW upset DAL, JRichardson was #1a (guess Avery Johnson & Dirk choking should be in the discussion too).

Telfair --- I think you're right about Telfair needing the ball, but for the 18  or so mins he's out there, Lebron can be a little less of the focal point. I also think that as he gets older Telfair is coming to grips with who he is as a professional basketball player. Lebron will take him under his wing too. The over/under for Telfair-to-Lebron alley oops is 2/game.

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Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Southeast Divison
« Reply #66 on: August 07, 2009, 03:30:45 PM »

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BTW just so that the mods don't think this is personal on my part, because it isn't, I have received no less than 6 PMs from GMs around the league lauding my stance and agreeing that the NY GM only kept his team because he was a mods brother and that it isn't fair that said GM gets to do nothing and have others make his picks for him and yet if someone disagrees the mod brother is going to get defensive and summarily make bad comparisons between your team and that NY team.

Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Southeast Divison
« Reply #67 on: August 07, 2009, 03:36:22 PM »

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Orlando, best team in the division.  Sure to go deep in the playoffs.

But just like Lebron's real team, there looks like there is no one that has proven to be a big time scorer in the clutch part of the playoffs.

How are you preparing the supporting cast for when they run into the deep defensive team late in the playoffs? (SA, Boston and Orlando are the three examples in real life)



Wdleehi -- this issue came up (in various forms) in the draft thread. And Lucky17 and I certainly talked about Lebron's teams' past leading into the draft.

I think this is a case where the conventional wisdom --- that Lebron needs a big time scorer to carry the load --- is actually wrong. We believe that it's not Scoring that Lebron needs help with... it's really everything else. And that this is the mistake Danny Ferry & Mike Brown made last season.

IMO, Lebron is such a dominant offensive force & skilled distributor we decided to put guys around him that were capable, efficient and multi-skilled at the non-scoring aspects of the game. Lebron is also one of those rare players that the cliched holds true, "he makes others around him better" because of his passing and the attention the defense has to pay him.

So we have an efficient PG (Hinrich) who can hit the open shot when doubled off of, a offensively gifted if not dominant SG in Richardson, a big man who can shoot from outside and draw his man out of the paint (Villanueva) and 3 other bigs to crash the boards on both ends (Gasol, Foster, Varejao).

Here are 2 examples that I think support this idea:

1. CLE's 2006-07 Finals run
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This is the model for a team built around Lebron.

CLE: At PG, Eric Snow was steady and unspectacular with 4 ppg, but an a robust 2.9 ast:to ratio. Boobie Gibson came in and added 8 points in the playoffs, double his season average. Combined Snow/Gibson averaged 10pts/3 ast/3 reb/1 3pt in the playoffs
ORL: We have Hinrich who we're confident will meet those averages (he did as a reserve in CHI last year). He has a 2.5 asst:to ratio and is a better defender than either Snow or Gibson. Telfair's contributions then will be gravy.

CLE: At SG, Larry Hughes was the next best offensive talent scoring 15 ppg, but his playoff average dropped to 11 ppg. He added nearly 4 reb/3 asst though.
ORL: Jason Richardson is a better scorer and all-around player than Hughes; Richardson raised his average 3 points in the DAL playoff upset and grabbed 2 more rebounds than he had during that season. Ultimately JRic is the guy that defenses have to be most mindful of.

CLE: At PF, Drew Gooden and Donyell Marshall combined for 15 pts, 10 reb, and the threat of a 3pt with Marshall (0.5 for the playoffs)
ORL: Villanueva will stretch the defenses like Marshall did at times and Foster alone would match Gooden's rebounding. Even if Villanueva only grabs 4-5 boards a game, were stronger at the PF spot.

CLE: At C, Ilgauskas and Varejao brought 18 pts, 16 rebounds night in and night out.
ORL: Gasol is not quite the outsider shooter Big Z was but is a bit more mobile and just as good a rebounder. Varejao is better now than he was then --- our Bigs will be able to rebound better, IMO than, CLE did throughout the playoff run to the Finals

CLE: Pavlovic and Damon Jones --- other bench guys who brouht outisde shooting
ORL: Afflalo & McGuire are not as offensively talented as Pavlovic/Jones, but they bring more defense freeing up JRich and Lebron to carry a bigger offensive load.


2. CLE/BOS epic game 7 (the Pierce/Lebron game)
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In the full playoffs for CLE in 2008, the 2-4 leading scorers were: Big Z (13.1), Delonte (10.8), Wally (10.8   ), Gibson (9.0) --- a respectible distribution that we're confident Hinrich, Richardson, Villanueve, and Gasol can match.

In that awesome Game 7, the thing that terrified me as a Celtics fan wasn't that those 4 guys would get their averages but that Lebron would take over and will the team to victory. And our fears were nearly realized:

Lebron - 45 pts
Delonte - 15 pts
Big Z - 8 pts
Pavlovic - 7 pts
Joe Smith - 6 pts

No one else had more than 5 pts, but the Cavs were 1 loose ball that Pierce got to first from winning.


Summary
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In a game 7, we're going as far as Lebron takes us --- which is far. To get to that game 7, JRich, Hinrich and Villanueva will ease the offensive load and are good enough shooters/scorers that they'll feast on the opportunities created by our primary distributor (Hinrich) and secondary distributor (Lebron).

Our offense is going to be run by Hinrich, but much of it will go through Lebron. Less diversification, not more, is really what CLE's offense lacked in the last year and their defense got worse as Z & Wallace got older. It's the threat of that secondary offense (Richardson, Hinrich, Villanueva) that we have more of than teams Lebron has been on in the past --- and we think this will lead the way to him realizing his full, dominant offensive potential.


Problem with looking at his old teams, they all bombed out.  In all cases, if one player had stepped up to hurt the other team for putting so much attention on Lebron, they might have won a title. 

Right, my point in bringing them up was that they are the floor for what we needed to surround Lebron with.... Unlike CLE teams in the past our guys WILL step up if/when needed. But we'll also have more talent so that "stepping up" won't be as necessary.

Richardson -- all we can go on is how he played in that 06-07 playoff run GSW made (3 more points, 2 more rebounds; raised FG% from 41.7 (season) to 47.6 in the playoffs).

Hinrich -- has increased his scoring in the playoff throughout his career:
Hinrich @ basketball-reference.com (scroll down to playoffs).

Foster and Varejao are playoff tested bangers, ready to fill the void if Gasol or Villanueva don't step up.
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Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Southeast Divison
« Reply #68 on: August 07, 2009, 03:38:15 PM »

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I know this is getting away from the main topic but I agree with Nick. It's unfair that a GM got to keep their team even though they had somebody else post their picks, they didn't make any trades or even respond to pms, didn't do a press conference and are not here to defend their team. When the owner in question is the brother of a mod, it actually makes things look worse.

Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Southeast Divison
« Reply #69 on: August 07, 2009, 03:38:53 PM »

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BTW just so that the mods don't think this is personal on my part, because it isn't, I have received no less than 6 PMs from GMs around the league lauding my stance and agreeing that the NY GM only kept his team because he was a mods brother and that it isn't fair that said GM gets to do nothing and have others make his picks for him and yet if someone disagrees the mod brother is going to get defensive and summarily make bad comparisons between your team and that NY team.

As someone who has absolutely no stake in this argument,

I think it's fair that New York gets a pass when he has lost the internet for reasons that are out of his hands. He didn't take a vacation,k he's not blowing it off, he simply can't get to the internet.

I also think that the Knicks are a significantly better than the DC Boxers. I'm concerned with the ability of Jackson and Wallace to co exist, I don't buy into the Ramon Sessions hype and I agree with the statements made about Joel Pryzbilia. I do really like Scola though. But at the end of the day, just my opinion, I don't think this is playoff team, nor do I think they're anywhere close.

Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Southeast Divison
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For the Magics

I really liked your trade getting Varejoa, but was it hard to convince him to come back to Lebron after this incident?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6CWVkPhzRw

Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Southeast Divison
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To all the GMs, how do you match up with the other teams in your division? In your conference?

Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Southeast Divison
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Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Southeast Divison
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Nobody who surrounds Lebron James has ever even flirted with an all-star appearance. That's not this team's strength though, its in the team's depth. Deepest frontcourt in the league, no question.

Also on the wings, McGuire, Hassell and Afflalo all saw a decent amount of playing time last year. I hate Lawson and Telfair as the backup points, but you can't please everybody.

I would've liked to see more veteran presence on this team. Guys like Manu Ginobli, or Derrick Fisher would've gone a long way to help my confidence in this team.

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Uhh... and the question is what again? Why don't we have more all-stars?

IP, I don't need to tell you that all-star appearances is an almost laughably subjective designation. I mean, would "veteran all-stars" like Antoine Walker, Mo Williams, an injured TMac (who still gets voted to AS games) or Ben Wallace really make you feel better about this team?

We pretty seriouosly considered Ginobili when we took Okafor, but felt that his injuries were still just too much of a wild-card in building around him. Shaq and Rasheed never entered our thoughts at 3.20 when we took Gasol. (an aside: I think Shaq is gonna be a horrible fit in CLE this year).

You can't have everything, and we think given where we were picking from we've built a team that has very few if any glaring flaws --- which is really all you can do even in the CBD right?

We've got guys who play hard fairly consistently (outside of Villanueva who can be less consistent), we have more depth up front than any other team, and we have the game's best player.

We'll leave other teams to fill up the all-star game with. We hang championship banners in ORL, not All-star selections  ;)
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Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Southeast Divison
« Reply #74 on: August 07, 2009, 03:51:30 PM »

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No my issue wasn't with your all-star appearances. As I said that's not your strength. Your strength beyond lebron is depth.

My issue was that beyond Varejao and Foster nobody on your bench has any playoff experience, and they are for the most part fairly young. Does it worry you that when the games start to really count your bench may not have the mental fortitude to come through?

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