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Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Central Division
« Reply #180 on: August 08, 2009, 02:44:18 PM »

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One GM's view of the Central, for what it's worth:

1.) Cleveland - tough decision but I believe in a physical division Cleveland's size, depth, shooting ability and quality 1-10 trumps Chicago's and Detroit's excellent starting fives and weak benches.

2.) Chicago - best starting five in game but if a neophyte like me can figure out you consistently head to the basket all day and draw contact to get the starters in foul trouble, then real coaches will figure it out too. Get two starters in foul trouble on this team and a win is all but guaranteed. But that's easier said than done, but not impossible.

3.) Detroit - the questions at center and point guard are just too great to overcome. If Chandler and Watson don't come in with stellar performances this team falls down in the standings very quickly.

4.) Milwaukee - an early favorite of mine for Future Team of the Year they will win games now as well. Durant growing up before our eyes is almost enough to get this team out of the basement by himself. Adding Millsap, Smith, Moon, and McCants make them young and dangerous.

5.) Indiana - if Gilbert Arenas plays like an All-Star this year then Indiana is not a good team. If he plays like he has or doesn't play like he has been not playing, and this is one of the worst teams in the conference. Little to no offense and no one beside Arenas who can get their own shot off. Disappointing.


I see two playoff teams from this division.

Nick, are you saying that even if Gilbert plays well, this team is STILL bad?

Obviously if Gilbert stinks, which is possible, then this team isn't good. If Gilbert stinks and still tries to play like he doesn't then this team is awful, but if Gilbert plays at an above average but not elite level, which i think is most probable (and you remember I said this, Rondo! I'm not flip flopping!), then I think this team is getting a bad rap for no reason.

Iggy and Aldridge are both elite level young players at their positions.

Arenas should still be up there arund 15-18 points a night and 5-6 assists.

Battier and Thomas are both elite and good defenders, respectively.

The bench is pretty weak, I like Frye and Von Wafer as role players, but unless Frye returns to his rookie form, or at least 07/08 form I don't think he's much of an impact guy. Portland didn't like using him much, and that's concerning because behind Aldridge all they had was Frye. Portland would rather use Outlaw as an undersized PF on defense instead of Frye, because Frye is so weak physically.

on the upside Phoenix seems really high on him, so this could be a big year for him.

This probably isn't a playoff team this year, but it could be depending on Arenas's play. Def not an afterthought of a team.

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Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Central Division
« Reply #181 on: August 09, 2009, 05:06:30 PM »

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Chicago: How does the fact that Jason Williams not getting an offer from the Knicks change your strategy?

My press conference was on Thursday, but I can answer this one weekedn question for you. It changes nothing. He was never going to sign with NY. they want Sessions. He's a FA who will play in the NBA next year, like the rest of the unsigned FA's:
Flip Murray, Raymond Felton, joe Smith, Nate Robinson, David Lee, Anthony Carter, CJ Watson, Von Wafer, Brian Skinner, Ramon Sessions, Rodney Carney, Melvin Ely, Stomile Swift, and Rashad Mccants are several also still unsigned. I don't think any of our Gm's are worried about these guys. Three guys I know that are concerns are Marbury, Kleiza, and Rubio, but none of those are Bulls. Jason Williams like the above players will play in the NBA next year and will do awesome on the fake Bulls playing limited minutes with our running style.

I would also like to know this. Is Javaris Crittenden now your only backup pg?
To answer IP's question. J-Will is in the same boat as Nate. Both will be in the NBA this yr, but we like Javaris as our third string pg. I don't think he's a starter, but as a backup he's solid. We have a pretty good starter ;)

Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Central Division
« Reply #182 on: August 09, 2009, 05:13:35 PM »

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how many of the other guys that you mentioned didnt play in the NBA this year though?  Does anybody know why the knicks didnt want him?
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Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Central Division
« Reply #183 on: August 09, 2009, 05:16:35 PM »

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how many of the other guys that you mentioned didnt play in the NBA this year though?  Does anybody know why the knicks didnt want him?

Someone trying to be "that guy" again. Jason Williams would have played in the NBA last yr, but the league didn't let him. Imagine if the league let all Clippers retire just to sign months later with another team? Why would the Knicks want a veteran pg. No room with Duhon and Nate and soon to be Sessions. They claimed him to do due diligence and hopefully put a little pressure on Sessions. Your gasping at straws here.

Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Central Division
« Reply #184 on: August 09, 2009, 05:18:09 PM »

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Im asking questions sir, do you have any possible landing places in mind for Jason?
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Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Central Division
« Reply #185 on: August 09, 2009, 05:19:40 PM »

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Im asking questions sir, do you have any possible landing places in mind for Jason?

My presser was Thursday sir. But I hear Orlando and Memphis are two interested teams. Where are the other FA's likely to go? I know Lee, Robinson, and Sessions to NY, but can you fill me in on the rest please.

Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Central Division
« Reply #186 on: August 09, 2009, 05:22:14 PM »

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Nah, I dont know any of the others, but I do hear that Big Baby is signing with the celts again, thats pretty cool. 

And I know your presser was Thursday, but this news came out recently and I thought you would want an opportunity to address the issue.
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Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Central Division
« Reply #187 on: August 09, 2009, 05:25:25 PM »

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Nah, I dont know any of the others, but I do hear that Big Baby is signing with the celts again, thats pretty cool. 

And I know your presser was Thursday, but this news came out recently and I thought you would want an opportunity to address the issue.

That was kind of you. Thanks. Please do the same with the remaining FA's. Otherwise some might mistakenly think you were just trying to reignite your sparring with the Bulls, by asking this question a few times in a few threads, and you know people have grown tired of that.

Good news on BBD. Heard that yesterday as well.

Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Central Division
« Reply #188 on: August 09, 2009, 05:29:06 PM »

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I think you should calm down a little bit. I asked the question originally when the news first came out about the Knicks not signing Williams, and seeing as how he is your backup PG I thought it was worth asking a question.  Thanks for answering it.
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Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Central Division
« Reply #189 on: August 09, 2009, 05:32:18 PM »

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I think you should calm down a little bit. I asked the question originally when the news first came out about the Knicks not signing Williams, and seeing as how he is your backup PG I thought it was worth asking a question.  Thanks for answering it.

Then you asked it again today in the Southeastern presser which was odd. But your welcome. We can move on now...

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Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Central Division
« Reply #190 on: August 09, 2009, 05:33:13 PM »

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One GM's view of the Central, for what it's worth:

1.) Cleveland - tough decision but I believe in a physical division Cleveland's size, depth, shooting ability and quality 1-10 trumps Chicago's and Detroit's excellent starting fives and weak benches.

2.) Chicago - best starting five in game but if a neophyte like me can figure out you consistently head to the basket all day and draw contact to get the starters in foul trouble, then real coaches will figure it out too. Get two starters in foul trouble on this team and a win is all but guaranteed. But that's easier said than done, but not impossible.

3.) Detroit - the questions at center and point guard are just too great to overcome. If Chandler and Watson don't come in with stellar performances this team falls down in the standings very quickly.

4.) Milwaukee - an early favorite of mine for Future Team of the Year they will win games now as well. Durant growing up before our eyes is almost enough to get this team out of the basement by himself. Adding Millsap, Smith, Moon, and McCants make them young and dangerous.

5.) Indiana - if Gilbert Arenas plays like an All-Star this year then Indiana is not a good team. If he plays like he has or doesn't play like he has been not playing, and this is one of the worst teams in the conference. Little to no offense and no one beside Arenas who can get their own shot off. Disappointing.


I see two playoff teams from this division.

Nick, are you saying that even if Gilbert plays well, this team is STILL bad?

Obviously if Gilbert stinks, which is possible, then this team isn't good. If Gilbert stinks and still tries to play like he doesn't then this team is awful, but if Gilbert plays at an above average but not elite level, which i think is most probable (and you remember I said this, Rondo! I'm not flip flopping!), then I think this team is getting a bad rap for no reason.

Iggy and Aldridge are both elite level young players at their positions.

Arenas should still be up there arund 15-18 points a night and 5-6 assists.

Battier and Thomas are both elite and good defenders, respectively.

The bench is pretty weak, I like Frye and Von Wafer as role players, but unless Frye returns to his rookie form, or at least 07/08 form I don't think he's much of an impact guy. Portland didn't like using him much, and that's concerning because behind Aldridge all they had was Frye. Portland would rather use Outlaw as an undersized PF on defense instead of Frye, because Frye is so weak physically.

on the upside Phoenix seems really high on him, so this could be a big year for him.

This probably isn't a playoff team this year, but it could be depending on Arenas's play. Def not an afterthought of a team.

Thanks for the kind words IP.

Personally, and this statement will have just a hint of biasness, I think this team is a real competitor and not just a fringe playoff team. Again, I keep looking at this team like this year's Houston Rockets. We don't have the bench yet, there's a lot of unproven/questionable players on there, but I think our starters are really, really good. And again, if we look at the Rockets, with the exception of Kurt Thomas, all of the other players are pretty sizable upgrades.

Comparatively, and in my opinion:

Kurt Thomas < Carl Landry
Lamarcus Aldridge > Luis Scola
Shane Battier = Shane Battier
Andre Igoudala > Ron Artest
Gilbert Arenas > Aaron Brooks

And on my bench at the very least we have Wafer, Frye and we're hoping that either Greene or Williams can step it up to finish off the 8 man rotation.

So why can the 2008 Houston Rockets push the eventual NBA Champions to 7 games, and team can't even make the playoffs?
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Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Central Division
« Reply #191 on: August 09, 2009, 05:34:20 PM »

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I asked it again because you never answered and saw that you were reading that thread.  I didnt want you to miss the question and miss an opportunity to discuss your team.  
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Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Central Division
« Reply #192 on: August 09, 2009, 05:36:39 PM »

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Didn't watch enough Kurt Thomas last year, but if he's serviceable and Arenas is healthy Indy will be tough. Lamarcus Aldridge is another young western conference guy we don't see enough here, but he's very solid.

Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Central Division
« Reply #193 on: August 09, 2009, 07:32:41 PM »

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Excluding my own team, here's my thoughts on the Central

1. Bulls
2. Pistons
3. Cavs
4. Bucks

Bulls, Pistons and maybe Cavs make it of these four.

Re: CB Draft '09 Mock Press Conference: Central Division
« Reply #194 on: August 11, 2009, 08:31:23 AM »

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