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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Roster Analysis Thread
« Reply #990 on: August 04, 2009, 05:57:42 PM »

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Alright...offering my kids up on the sacrificial altar:

The Milwaukee Bucks

Head Coach: Dave Cowens
Assistant Coach: Alvin Robertson, Paul Pressey

Starters:

C  Brendan Haywood 
PF Paul Millsap 
SF Kevin Durant
SG J.R. Smith           
PG Rodney Stuckey

6th man: F Jamario Moon

Bench: PG Luke Ridnour, F/C Ben Wallace, PF Tyler Hansbrough

10th-12th man: SG J.R. Giddens, SG Rashad McCants, F/C Tony Battie

IR List: G/F Marko Jaric, PG Anthony Johnson, PF Sean May

My belated thoughts on the Milwaukee Bucks.

Durant is breaking every scoring benchmark by age and rather than rave at length about the game changer, enough to say that he alone makes Milwaukee conversation worthy, both as a team for the future and postseason dark horse.

But he’s only one piece in possibly the league’s most underrated frontcourt. As a starter last season, Millsap averaged 16 points on 55% shooting and 10.3 rebounds. He’s a boon on defense and one of the league’s best offensive rebounders. He’s a fierce competitor, savvy and still developing. I love him alongside Durant, who’ll create space for Paul to operate on the block and the glass, and on the other end balance the power forward’s lack of height.

Haywood rounds out the starting lineup as the vocal, veteran defensive anchor. He’s a mobile, legit 7 footer, a strong on the ball defender, and solid shot blocker. His running mates will carry the scoring load but as the team’s 5th option he'll at least finish open looks around the basket.

Off the bench, Moon and Hansbrough should be exhausting to score against and to cover. I love both as reserves. Wallace is the x-factor here. Still may retire? Otherwise he should shore up the defense as he did in Cleveland despite struggling to adjust to spot duty. Or I love Tony Battie in his stead. (And Sean May is a worthwhile late draft signing who could prove to be a steal.)

I like Milwaukee’s backcourt balance less, although Stuckey and Smith are undeniable talents, capable of seizing control of a game. But despite my affection for both, I dislike how badly their flaws - chiefly, shaky shot selection and decision making - overlap. Ridnour isn’t much help; he’s a better floor general, but just as likely to fall in love with his own jumpshot. And going on down the line, team has the same problem with the (even more unreliable?) Shady and the sophomore Giddens. (And Ridnour and McCants are notably worse on defense.) So, I have some sympathy for Anthony Johnson is all.

Still, it’s already proven that Durant can thrive playing alongside a young, aggressive, low efficiency combo-guard. And in games when the backcourt is aligned, Bucks will able to out shoot (and beat) anyone.

EDIT: I worry that my first appraisal doesn't convey enough optimism. In all likelihood, Stuckey and Smith make strides again this season, so it's really a question of how much they improve.
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Roster Analysis Thread
« Reply #991 on: August 04, 2009, 06:03:18 PM »

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Raptors roster

PG:Miller/Barea/Maynor
SG:Garcia/Belinelli/Finley
SF:Artest/Finley/Warick
PF:Garnett/Warick/Griffin
C: Camby/Big Z/
CB Draft LA Lakers: Lamarcus Aldridge, Carmelo Anthony,Jrue Holiday, Wes Matthews  6.11, 7.16, 8.14, 8.15, 9.16, 11.5, 11.16

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Roster Analysis Thread
« Reply #992 on: August 04, 2009, 10:14:38 PM »

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Indiana Pacers:

Gilbert Arenas
Andre Igoudala
Shane Battier
Lamarcus Alridge
Kurt Thomas

Bench:
Von Wafer, Channing Frye, Terrance Williams, Marcus Williams, Jamal Magloire, Quincy Douby, Donte Greene

Across the sea:
Rick Rubio

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Roster Analysis Thread
« Reply #993 on: August 04, 2009, 10:18:21 PM »

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Indiana Pacers:

Gilbert Arenas
Andre Igoudala
Shane Battier
Lamarcus Alridge
Kurt Thomas

Bench:
Von Wafer, Channing Frye, Terrance Williams, Marcus Williams, Jamal Magloire, Quincy Douby, Donte Greene

Across the sea:
Rick Rubio

I like your starting 5 now, however I don't know how many minutes you'll get out of Kurt Thomas nowadays and you don't have a solid backup for him.  Outside instant offense, Von Wafer,the rest of your bench is a big question mark.  If Rubio came over however that would give you 2 guys off the bench that would be solid for you. 

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Roster Analysis Thread
« Reply #994 on: August 04, 2009, 10:36:32 PM »

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Charlotte Bobcats:

Starters:
Stephon Curry
Wayne Ellington
Caron Butler
Blake Griffin
Javale McGee

Bench:
Darren Collison, Patty Mills, Christian Eyenga, Jermaine Taylor, Danny Green, Jeff Pendergraph, BJ Mullens

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Roster Analysis Thread
« Reply #995 on: August 05, 2009, 12:17:14 AM »

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The DC Boxers are proud to release their final roster for your inspection, analysis, and hopefully, praise.


C:  Joel Przybilla/Dan Gadzuric/Alexis Ajinca
PF: Luis Scola/Darko Milicic/Juwan Howard/Kris Humphries
SF: Gerald Wallace/Julian Wright/Gerald Green
SG: Stephen Jackson/Anthony Morrow
PG: Ramon Sessions/George Hill/Tyronne Lue

Defense wins championships and I think just about every player except a couple are good to excellent defenders and I feel very confident going 12 deep on any night but figure a 9 man rotation on most nights dependent upon the matchups. Here's what I figure the seasonal minutes will probably look like broken down to a single game.

Przybilla   29 minutes
Scola       32 minutes
Wallace     35 minutes
Jackson     34 minutes
Sessions    28 minutes
Milicic     23 minutes
Gadzuric    12 minutes
Wright      13 minutes
Morrow      14 minutes
Hill        20 minutes

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Roster Analysis Thread
« Reply #996 on: August 05, 2009, 12:20:08 AM »

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Depth Chart Rough Draft: Bulls


Starters: CP3, Kevin Martin, Raja, Pau, and Horford
Bench rotation: Jason Williams, Bogans, Stevenson, R. Anderson, H. Armstrong

Others: Crittendon, James Johnson, Buddinger, Mihm, and A. Daye

Think Suns from a couple yrs ago, but without Horry to trip anyone, and a great defensive PG instead of a defensive liability. And a center that's not scared to play D, instead of Amare.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Roster Analysis Thread
« Reply #997 on: August 05, 2009, 12:22:15 AM »

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The DC Boxers are proud to release their final roster for your inspection, analysis, and hopefully, praise.


C:  Joel Przybilla/Dan Gadzuric/Alexis Ajinca
PF: Luis Scola/Darko Milicic/Juwan Howard/Kris Humphries
SF: Gerald Wallace/Julian Wright/Gerald Green
SG: Stephen Jackson/Anthony Morrow
PG: Ramon Sessions/George Hill/Tyronne Lue

Defense wins championships and I think just about every player except a couple are good to excellent defenders and I feel very confident going 12 deep on any night but figure a 9 man rotation on most nights dependent upon the matchups. Here's what I figure the seasonal minutes will probably look like broken down to a single game.

Przybilla   29 minutes
Scola       32 minutes
Wallace     35 minutes
Jackson     34 minutes
Sessions    28 minutes
Milicic     23 minutes
Gadzuric    12 minutes
Wright      13 minutes
Morrow      14 minutes
Hill        20 minutes

I think Darko's success at defending will be a big hinge on your success as a team. Limiting Pryzbilla's mins for the playoffs will be crucial for you, and if Darko can competently man some of that load, or if Gadzuric returns to form with a little bit of confidence from the coach, you match up well.

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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Roster Analysis Thread
« Reply #998 on: August 05, 2009, 12:26:52 AM »

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Detroit Pistons final roster:

C:  Tyson Chandler/Nazr Mohammed/Robert Swift
PF: Amare Stoudemire/ Eduardo Najera/Stromile Swift
SF: Rudy Gay/Rodney Carney/Dorrel Wright/
SG: OJ Mayo/Mo Evans/Juan Dixon
PG: Earl Watson/Shaun Livingston/Stephon Marbury
2025 CelticsStrong Historical Draft Orlando Magic:
PG: Chris Paul
SG: Ray Allen
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Chris Bosh
C: Tim Duncan

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Roster Analysis Thread
« Reply #999 on: August 05, 2009, 12:31:35 AM »

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The DC Boxers are proud to release their final roster for your inspection, analysis, and hopefully, praise.


C:  Joel Przybilla/Dan Gadzuric/Alexis Ajinca
PF: Luis Scola/Darko Milicic/Juwan Howard/Kris Humphries
SF: Gerald Wallace/Julian Wright/Gerald Green
SG: Stephen Jackson/Anthony Morrow
PG: Ramon Sessions/George Hill/Tyronne Lue

Defense wins championships and I think just about every player except a couple are good to excellent defenders and I feel very confident going 12 deep on any night but figure a 9 man rotation on most nights dependent upon the matchups. Here's what I figure the seasonal minutes will probably look like broken down to a single game.

Przybilla   29 minutes
Scola       32 minutes
Wallace     35 minutes
Jackson     34 minutes
Sessions    28 minutes
Milicic     23 minutes
Gadzuric    12 minutes
Wright      13 minutes
Morrow      14 minutes
Hill        20 minutes

I think Darko's success at defending will be a big hinge on your success as a team. Limiting Pryzbilla's mins for the playoffs will be crucial for you, and if Darko can competently man some of that load, or if Gadzuric returns to form with a little bit of confidence from the coach, you match up well.
There's three areas where I think people will look at this team as deficient.

1.) What you said IP. The need for Darko and Gadzuric to limit effectively Przybilla and Scola's minutes up front. If they can that is a huge boon to this team.

2.) The inexperience in the backcourt with the exception of Stephen Jackson. I really feel that all three youngsters in the backsourt are going to be All-Stars to fringe All-Stars at some time in their career but as of yet Morrow, Sessions and Hill are still very green. But even being young and inexperienced I think all three have shown a great maturity and BBIQ thus far in their careers.

3.) Something that I think is a boatload of bunk, but, a go to scorer. Come playoff time, half courts sets are the rule not the exception and as much as I think this group can fast break effectively and often during the regular season, it will be their performance in the half court that will tell just how successful the ultimately are. Some will say a lack of the go to guy will be this team's downfall. I think they are so versatile as a group that the offensive efficiency will be there to offset the lack of that super duper star go to scorer type player.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Roster Analysis Thread
« Reply #1000 on: August 05, 2009, 01:03:41 AM »

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Just read the "Most Under Rated Player in the League" thread and no less than 4 players on my team were mentioned more than once as Most Under Rated in the League and a guy I drafted, Kevin Martin, was also prominent in the thread.

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Did you happen to have a center mentioned in that thread? TP Please.

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like that is always lethal." - Evan 'The God' Turner

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Roster Analysis Thread
« Reply #1002 on: August 05, 2009, 01:10:31 AM »

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Did you happen to have a center mentioned in that thread? TP Please.
Przybilla was twice. Jackson was mentioned. Scola was mentioned.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Roster Analysis Thread
« Reply #1003 on: August 05, 2009, 01:12:10 AM »

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Just read the "Most Under Rated Player in the League" thread and no less than 4 players on my team were mentioned more than once as Most Under Rated in the League and a guy I drafted, Kevin Martin, was also prominent in the thread.

Shout out.  He's thrilled to not have to shoulder the load in Sacto anymore. he would of settled for one other star, but he got Gasol and the best pg in the game. :)

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Roster Analysis Thread
« Reply #1004 on: August 07, 2009, 07:45:23 AM »

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So this may have already been discussed and I missed it, but how is Portland handling Rashard?  I cant wait to see Edgar's spin on the topic.  I wonder if Rashard felt the pressure to look good in scrolling picture posts and thats why he did it
CB Draft LA Lakers: Lamarcus Aldridge, Carmelo Anthony,Jrue Holiday, Wes Matthews  6.11, 7.16, 8.14, 8.15, 9.16, 11.5, 11.16