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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Roster Analysis Thread
« Reply #960 on: August 03, 2009, 04:06:31 PM »

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Updated Toronto Roster
Pg:Miller/Watson/Maynor
SG:Garcia/Belinelli
SF:Artest/Finley/Koralev
PF:Garnett/Oberto
C: Camby/Big Z

Much better balance in the starting lineup.


Now, are you going to slide Camby over to PF when KG comes out or are you shopping for another PF that can play 15-20 minutes a game?

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Roster Analysis Thread
« Reply #961 on: August 03, 2009, 04:12:11 PM »

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Back up PF should be on the way very soon
CB Draft LA Lakers: Lamarcus Aldridge, Carmelo Anthony,Jrue Holiday, Wes Matthews  6.11, 7.16, 8.14, 8.15, 9.16, 11.5, 11.16

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Roster Analysis Thread
« Reply #962 on: August 03, 2009, 04:31:49 PM »

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Sorry about the two quick posts, but...


Updated Toronto Roster
Pg:Miller/Watson/Maynor
SG:Garcia/Belinelli
SF:Artest/Finley/Koralev
PF:Garnett/Arthur
C: Camby/Big Z
CB Draft LA Lakers: Lamarcus Aldridge, Carmelo Anthony,Jrue Holiday, Wes Matthews  6.11, 7.16, 8.14, 8.15, 9.16, 11.5, 11.16

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Roster Analysis Thread
« Reply #963 on: August 03, 2009, 04:38:32 PM »

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Rondo/Nate Robinson/CJ Watson
Roger Mason Jr/Kyle Korver
Josh Howard/Bruce Bowen/Ersan Ilyasova
Big Al Jefferson/Josh McRoberts
Andris Biedrins/Fabricio Oberto/Kosta Koufos

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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Roster Analysis Thread
« Reply #964 on: August 03, 2009, 05:19:07 PM »

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The Nuggets in it's post draft/pre trade form.

PG  Conley   Foye   M. Collins
SG  Pietrus  Azubuike
SF  J Green   B. Wright  Gist
PF  Haslem    Love     superSub Scali
C   Oden       Boone   Dwayne Jones

Inj/trade bait Ming.   Key to adding offensive threat in the future.

Like said before, plenty of positions to be won.  A lot of linup combos to try out.
(Slowly trying to return the favor to those GMs that gave the Rockets a thoughtful critique and/or compliments. Milwaukee is up next.)

There is a lot to like in Denver, and the number of two-way and second-effort players on this team ensures that Nuggets will steal some wins from more established squads.

I also admire Denver’s efforts to put Oden in a position to thrive - top frontcourt running mates, a solid, physical, backup, and the best possible mentor. (Assuming Ming can be on the sidelines and at practices, I love Yao as a coach for the NBA’s next great center.) The team even reached on his college roomate  ;).

I’m an avowed Foye fan, although believe that, like Delonte West, he’s most comfortable at the 2. And I’m also a big Jeff Green booster, but prefer him at the 4. (Possible conclusion? Nuggets and Rockets both have good talent evaluation but clear philosophical differences?)

My chief worry? Despite management's stated preference for competitive practices and minutes according to merit, the absence of defined roles and lack of separation at certain positions could hinder player development. (Team’s overall high character being an asset but not a fix.) Conley justified his draft position at the end of his sophomore season, partly helped by a trade that sent his competition for the starting job out of town. Foye has previously chafed at coming off the bench, and can likely outplay Pietrus and Azubuike on one end of the court, if not the other. Green might easily overshadow a still inconsistent Wright. And I’m already penciling in Love as a starter over Haslem (another player I like).
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Roster Analysis Thread
« Reply #965 on: August 03, 2009, 05:24:43 PM »

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How are you guys feeling about the Heat these days?  I think we should definitely be in contention for team of the future. 

Rony Seikaly - Head Coach
Sherman Douglas - Assistant
Bimbo Coles - Assistant

PG-Felton/Banks/Law
SG-Nick Young/James Harden/ JJ Redick
SF-Outlaw/Batum/Yi/
PF-Ty Thomas/Speights/Jordan Hill
C-Hawes/Fesenko/Collins
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« Reply #966 on: August 03, 2009, 07:27:45 PM »

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I'm telling you, you gotta start Harden and Speights. Not only because they were my binkies first, but because Ty Thomas doesn't have the size to bang, and Speights shows a willingness to, and Harden has shown more discipline and patience as a scorer in letting the game come to him than Nick Young ever has. These are qualities you want in a starting lineup.

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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Roster Analysis Thread
« Reply #967 on: August 03, 2009, 07:30:09 PM »

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Thoughts:


PG: Tony Parker/Mo Williams/Travis Diener/Sun Yue/ Nando De Colo
SG: Rudy Fernandez/Daequann Cook/ Wes Matthews
SF: Wilson Chandler/ Omri Casspi
PF: Boris Diaw/DJ White/Louis Amundson
C: Brook Lopez/ Andrea Bargnani/DJ Mbenga

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Roster Analysis Thread
« Reply #968 on: August 03, 2009, 07:32:16 PM »

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I really really hate Boris Diaw...but if you're gonna run, and you think he's gonna play up to his potential..your team reminds me a lot of the actual phoenix suns with a more athletic, less talented and physically dominant Shaq

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« Reply #969 on: August 03, 2009, 07:32:56 PM »

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You need another SF though...Cassipi is projected as a slow 3, more 4 kinda guy..a real roughouser, right?

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like that is always lethal." - Evan 'The God' Turner

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« Reply #970 on: August 03, 2009, 07:39:26 PM »

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How are you guys feeling about the Heat these days?  I think we should definitely be in contention for team of the future. 

Rony Seikaly - Head Coach
Sherman Douglas - Assistant
Bimbo Coles - Assistant

PG-Felton/Banks/Law
SG-Nick Young/James Harden/ JJ Redick
SF-Outlaw/Batum/Yi/
PF-Ty Thomas/Speights/Jordan Hill
C-Hawes/Fesenko/Collins
I think it's a real good start for a Futures Team but it really will all rely upon just how good Harden, Hill and Outlaw can get. I think the Future team winner is going to have at least one, probably guaranteed, future, superduper star. You're going to have to hope that people see Harden in that light because, as much as I like the makeup and skills you've put together, all the rest of your young players only have potential to be very good but probably not All-Star quality.

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« Reply #971 on: August 03, 2009, 07:48:43 PM »

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Thoughts:


PG: Tony Parker/Mo Williams/Travis Diener/Sun Yue/ Nando De Colo
SG: Rudy Fernandez/Daequann Cook/ Wes Matthews
SF: Wilson Chandler/ Omri Casspi
PF: Boris Diaw/DJ White/Louis Amundson
C: Brook Lopez/ Andrea Bargnani/DJ Mbenga
I like Parker and Lopez and honestly, none of the other players appear to me to be anything more than soft outside shooters. You are very thin at the SF and PF positions. I would move Williams and Diaw and see if you could lure an All-Star caliber PF. I really think a player of that caliber really completes your starting five and helps to minimize your greatest weakness, a very soft bench. Not untalented, but soft. There's no real toughness there.

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« Reply #972 on: August 03, 2009, 07:55:00 PM »

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Thoughts:


PG: Tony Parker/Mo Williams/Travis Diener/Sun Yue/ Nando De Colo
SG: Rudy Fernandez/Daequann Cook/ Wes Matthews
SF: Wilson Chandler/ Omri Casspi
PF: Boris Diaw/DJ White/Louis Amundson
C: Brook Lopez/ Andrea Bargnani/DJ Mbenga
I like Parker and Lopez and honestly, none of the other players appear to me to be anything more than soft outside shooters. You are very thin at the SF and PF positions. I would move Williams and Diaw and see if you could lure an All-Star caliber PF. I really think a player of that caliber really completes your starting five and helps to minimize your greatest weakness, a very soft bench. Not untalented, but soft. There's no real toughness there.

Well what kinda PF are you thinking? For Diaw and Mo Williams I don't think he does better than an Antawn Jamison type. Who fits their system best? I'd say Amare, but he's beyond that pricetag.

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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Roster Analysis Thread
« Reply #973 on: August 03, 2009, 08:03:50 PM »

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Thoughts:


PG: Tony Parker/Mo Williams/Travis Diener/Sun Yue/ Nando De Colo
SG: Rudy Fernandez/Daequann Cook/ Wes Matthews
SF: Wilson Chandler/ Omri Casspi
PF: Boris Diaw/DJ White/Louis Amundson
C: Brook Lopez/ Andrea Bargnani/DJ Mbenga
I like Parker and Lopez and honestly, none of the other players appear to me to be anything more than soft outside shooters. You are very thin at the SF and PF positions. I would move Williams and Diaw and see if you could lure an All-Star caliber PF. I really think a player of that caliber really completes your starting five and helps to minimize your greatest weakness, a very soft bench. Not untalented, but soft. There's no real toughness there.

Well what kinda PF are you thinking? For Diaw and Mo Williams I don't think he does better than an Antawn Jamison type. Who fits their system best? I'd say Amare, but he's beyond that pricetag.

I don't know how Wilson Chandler gets labeled soft, but I think you guys are looking at the players and not the team. The players on this team fit very well together, and although they may be "soft" there is a ton of experience for such a young team. Are we the bad Boy Pistons? No. But are we a young, talented team with time to grow into a championship contender, heck yes.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Roster Analysis Thread
« Reply #974 on: August 03, 2009, 08:07:02 PM »

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You need another SF though...Cassipi is projected as a slow 3, more 4 kinda guy..a real roughouser, right?

Nope:
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Omri-Casspi-538/