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Bruce Bowen?
« on: July 26, 2009, 01:04:01 AM »

Offline timepiece33

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It looks like we are after Bowen. 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&page=Chatter-090723

The Bucks, meanwhile, continue to explore their trade options with Bruce Bowen, who must be paid $2 million and waived by Aug. 1, or his $4 million salary for next season will become fully guaranteed.

No deal involving Bowen was close as of late Wednesday, but Milwaukee will continue to make Bowen available until it has to release him to save the extra $2 million.

I'm likewise told that there have not been any trade discussions between the Bucks and Boston that would put Bowen back in Celtics green, even though the 38-year-old seemingly would appeal to the Celts to plug into the role -- perimeter defensive specialist who can drain 3s, guard certain power forwards and provide some championship know-how -- that they never filled last season after James Posey left.
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2009, 01:29:24 AM »

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With Marbury and Bowen (if these did happen) and one more 7 ft. warm body, are we set?  Hmmm.  I would hope that BBD would be in there as well.  I'd feel awfully confident with that roster.
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2009, 11:07:54 AM »

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I expect the Bucks to waive Bowen in order to ensure they will stay below the luxury tax while being able to match a Ramon Sessions an MLE type offer.

The only way they trade Bowen is if they get something very good in return in the $4 million bracket. The only thing Boston has to offer there is Rondo or Perkins, which clearly would be ludicrous. As a result Boston isn't a good trade partner.

I'd like to see the Bucks try and get Rasual Butler out of New Orleans. Hornets save $2mil, doubled to $4mil after luxury tax, in the deal. Bucks gain a good role player who is a very good shooter, and plays some defense. Milwaukee would likely rather a younger player though.
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2009, 04:48:23 PM »

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I'd take him. But not in a trade. San Antonio is done for the offseason, so he's not going back there. No other championship contender out there suits him besides us. I expect him to be cut instead and we'll sign him for 1.2 vet min.
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2009, 04:52:41 PM »

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I don't want him. He's got nothing left. If we sign him we have one less spot which would fill us up after a PG. We need another backup C more than we need yet another wing. Daniels will get all the run behind PP. You can't even have him out there at crunch time due to his 50% free throw shooting. He really brings nothing to the table except for a veteran presence and we have tons of that already. Pass in all circumstances.
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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2009, 04:56:12 PM »

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Quote from: EJPLAYA on July 26, 2009, 04:52:41 PM
I don't want him. He's got nothing left. If we sign him we have one less spot which would fill us up after a PG. We need another backup C more than we need yet another wing. Daniels will get all the run behind PP. You can't even have him out there at crunch time due to his 50% free throw shooting. He really brings nothing to the table except for a veteran presence and we have tons of that already. Pass in all circumstances.

Our wing situation would depend on what kind of trade we make for Daniels wouldn't it? AS far as we know we'll have plenty of roster spaces once that deal gets done. I'm not up for Bowen being a major contributor for us, but I wouldn't mind him wasting one of our roster spaces if needed be. You're right about our big men being a priority, but Bowen would only be taking up an important roster spot if we don't make a trade.

If we don't make a trade, then Bowen would be a mistake.
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2009, 05:25:08 PM »

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Quote from: Who on July 26, 2009, 11:07:54 AM
I expect the Bucks to waive Bowen in order to ensure they will stay below the luxury tax while being able to match a Ramon Sessions an MLE type offer.

The only way they trade Bowen is if they get something very good in return in the $4 million bracket. The only thing Boston has to offer there is Rondo or Perkins, which clearly would be ludicrous. As a result Boston isn't a good trade partner.

I'd like to see the Bucks try and get Rasual Butler out of New Orleans. Hornets save $2mil, doubled to $4mil after luxury tax, in the deal. Bucks gain a good role player who is a very good shooter, and plays some defense. Milwaukee would likely rather a younger player though.

You could offer Tony Allen and Gabe Pruitt for him, but I would guess that Indiana would have little interest in Brian Scalabrine in place of Allen AND Daniels should be the priority.

They can simply non tender Pruitt and instead of getting nothing for their $2MM, they get Tony Allen for an incremental $500k.  Hell, the Celtics could conceivably provide cash in the deal as an incentive. 
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2009, 05:28:16 PM »

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Please - no Bowen! As I have said before, he was dirty then, now he is old and dirty - which simply means that all of his tricks are now more obvious.
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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2009, 05:47:48 PM »

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Bowen would be a good fit.  During the regular season, we could play Pierce and Allen a little over 30 mpg, put Daniels at 25 mpg, and give Bowen the odd 5-10 mpg remaining.  Come playoff time, if he proves he can still play, he could get more minutes.  If not, he'd still be valuable in certain situations with his ability to play tough man defense and hit the open three. 

As for this dirty talk, it's all subjective BS.  We're talking about a team that already has KG, Wallace, Rondo, and most of all Perk.  How many times has Perk played dirty?  How many times have we lauded him for it?  And as we saw in the capsule about Bill Sharman (who took a swing at Jerry West after he hit too many shots in a row), most of the players from the '50-60s should be called dirty, unsportsmanlike players if we're going to call Bowen one. 
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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2009, 05:49:10 PM »

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As i posted about a month ago i'd love this.
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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2009, 06:02:23 PM »

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Quote from: gar on July 26, 2009, 05:28:16 PM
Please - no Bowen! As I have said before, he was dirty then, now he is old and dirty - which simply means that all of his tricks are now more obvious.

Kobe said he's one of the most difficult guys to score against, so i want him.
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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2009, 06:08:57 PM »

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i would be sick if this guy played for the celtics (i inow he did a long time ago, but he was an unknown then). i despise him. he is filthy. i do not mind hard nosed, but he is dirty and i want no part of him. he is past his prime (if he had one) and he has very little talent. he does work hard, but i would say take a pass.
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« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2009, 06:17:22 PM »

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I wonder how Tanguay's gut feels about this one
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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2009, 06:20:29 PM »

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Bowen as the 4th wing, with Turnover Tony taking his brain-dead basketball to Indy = great move.

Bowen as the 3rd wing = disaster.
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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2009, 06:23:26 PM »

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Quote from: xmuscularghandix on July 26, 2009, 06:02:23 PM
Quote from: gar on July 26, 2009, 05:28:16 PM
Please - no Bowen! As I have said before, he was dirty then, now he is old and dirty - which simply means that all of his tricks are now more obvious.

Kobe said he's one of the most difficult guys to score against, so i want him.

Before or after he destroyed Bowen in the playoffs a year ago?
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