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Re: Next years Roster... how would you want it?
« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2009, 12:00:41 PM »

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Re: Next years Roster... how would you want it?
« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2009, 08:53:16 PM »

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This is who I would want

PG - Rondo, Marbury,
SG - Ray Allen, House, Tony Allen
SF - Pierce, Daniels
PF - KG, BBD, Powe/Giddens
C - Perkins, Wallace

Giddens stars the year, and Powe finishes it. 
This team is unstoppable.


Giddens at PF  :o. That'd almost as fun as watching Bill Walker play PF when I went to a game in Chicago this past year.

Ok so maybe we get another big to fill in before Powe comes back.

I am not going to critizice but the hype at wallace playing C is jusxt nuts in my ho

That's weird because in the past 2 season he's logged ~120 games as Detroit's starting Center. Not saying it's his natural position, but clearly he can play there when needed. I think he backs up both Perk and KG. and I'm stoked to see how he and KG play on the court at the same time. It should really open the lane for Pierce and Rondo.

Yea, and we won a few games with Scal as our Center... think about how much more Sheed stretches the floor.

Re: Next years Roster... how would you want it?
« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2009, 11:28:16 PM »

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People are throwing out random people and weird minutes.  For the regular season it looks like:
Rondo 30min, Marbury 10min (if he's all we can get)
Ray 30min, House 15min, Daniels 20min
Pierce 30min, Bowen 10min
KG 30min, Rasheed 25min
Perk 30min, Davis 10min
Along with Scal, JR, Walker, and Powe/whoever for the first half of season.
This is of course a minimum game, if it's against a strong team the starters will obviously get more minutes.  For the post-season I'd like to see Rondo, Ray, Paul, and KG get at least 5 more minutes each.
Bowen, Daniels, and Marbury are not my ideal picks, but i don't see us doing anything else.
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Re: Next years Roster... how would you want it?
« Reply #33 on: July 28, 2009, 02:31:49 PM »

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PG- Rondo,Marbury,Daniels
SG- Allen,House,Daniels
SF- Pierce,Daniels,Warrick,Scal
PF- Garnett,Wallace,BBD,Warrick
 C- Perk, Wallace

Inactive:
Walker, Giddens, Hudson, and Powe. 


That is how I hope the roster can shake up after the off-season (I doubt it will turn out like this but I can hope)... Get rid of Allen through Daniels sign and trade and cut Pruitt.

We're not allowed 16 players.

Marbury is insane, I officially don't want im anymore. Daniels at the point?

I think it's impossible to say what kind of roster we could have for next year because of the uncertainty surrounding Davis and Powe. In addition to Wallace and Daniels (if we get him), if we can get a back-up point guard and sort out our big man situation then I'll be more than happy.

Re: Next years Roster... how would you want it?
« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2009, 03:35:25 PM »

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PG- Rondo,Marbury,Daniels
SG- Allen,House,Daniels
SF- Pierce,Daniels,Warrick,Scal
PF- Garnett,Wallace,BBD,Warrick
 C- Perk, Wallace

Inactive:
Walker, Giddens, Hudson, and Powe. 



That is how I hope the roster can shake up after the off-season (I doubt it will turn out like this but I can hope)... Get rid of Allen through Daniels sign and trade and cut Pruitt.

We're not allowed 16 players.

Marbury is insane, I officially don't want im anymore. Daniels at the point?

I think it's impossible to say what kind of roster we could have for next year because of the uncertainty surrounding Davis and Powe. In addition to Wallace and Daniels (if we get him), if we can get a back-up point guard and sort out our big man situation then I'll be more than happy.

Didn't notice i had 16 players... Powe can go if he isn't going to be healthy for the stretch run...

Marbury has always been insane... Now he could be at new level of insane lol i'll still take him though because I feel he has way more talent and skill then any of the point guards available and will have a bounce back year if we sign him this off-season...

Daniels played back up PG to Nash when he was in Dallas and started at PG for some of there games so he can play back up at the 1,2, and 3 but mostly the 2/3 because that is where we need him the most...

House could also play backup PG too as a last option...

Warrick is a player I would love to get to give us some more bench depth but I feel like the percentage of him coming here is about 1 so I'd take Bowen any day if we can't get Warrick.

Also the topic is how we would like the roster how each you individually would like the roster to shake up so you can say how u think the roster will shake up...
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Re: Next years Roster... how would you want it?
« Reply #35 on: July 28, 2009, 03:46:17 PM »

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sign and trade BBD for Boone/HAyes.  Both are expiring contracts.

PG- Rondo, House, Pruitt
SG- Allen, Daniels, Giddens
SF- Pierce, Hayes, Walker
PF- Garnett,Wallace, Scal
 C- Perk, (Sheed), Boone

release Tony Allen.  have spot open to sign help in spring if needed.   


next year:

extend Ray for one year. extend Rondo.  Scal, House, Boone, Hayes all walk unless they prove too valuable.

Re: Next years Roster... how would you want it?
« Reply #36 on: July 28, 2009, 04:08:27 PM »

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Rondo / Hudson
Allen / House / Giddens
Pierce / Daniels / Chris Douglas-Roberts
KG / Williams / Powe
Perkins / Wallace / Scalabrine

Roster Transactions:

BBD + Walker for Chris Douglas-Roberts + Sean Williams

Tony Allen + Gabe Pruitt for Marquis Daniels


Leaves us with LLE to sign a veteran back up PG

Re: Next years Roster... how would you want it?
« Reply #37 on: July 28, 2009, 04:57:53 PM »

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People are throwing out random people and weird minutes.  For the regular season it looks like:
Rondo 30min, Marbury 10min (if he's all we can get)
Ray 30min, House 15min, Daniels 20min
Pierce 30min, Bowen 10min
KG 30min, Rasheed 25min
Perk 30min, Davis 10min
Along with Scal, JR, Walker, and Powe/whoever for the first half of season.
This is of course a minimum game, if it's against a strong team the starters will obviously get more minutes.  For the post-season I'd like to see Rondo, Ray, Paul, and KG get at least 5 more minutes each.
Bowen, Daniels, and Marbury are not my ideal picks, but i don't see us doing anything else.
Sorry but those numbers are off too.  Adding up you have at each position:
1 - 40 min
2 - 55 min
3 - 40 min
4 - 55 min
5 - 40 min

Re: Next years Roster... how would you want it?
« Reply #38 on: July 28, 2009, 06:25:05 PM »

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People are throwing out random people and weird minutes.  For the regular season it looks like:
Rondo 30min, Marbury 10min (if he's all we can get)
Ray 30min, House 15min, Daniels 20min
Pierce 30min, Bowen 10min
KG 30min, Rasheed 25min
Perk 30min, Davis 10min
Along with Scal, JR, Walker, and Powe/whoever for the first half of season.
This is of course a minimum game, if it's against a strong team the starters will obviously get more minutes.  For the post-season I'd like to see Rondo, Ray, Paul, and KG get at least 5 more minutes each.
Bowen, Daniels, and Marbury are not my ideal picks, but i don't see us doing anything else.
Sorry but those numbers are off too.  Adding up you have at each position:
1 - 40 min
2 - 55 min
3 - 40 min
4 - 55 min
5 - 40 min
No, Ray+House+Daniels=65min
Rasheed will play some Center, Daniels will play some SF, and Daniels+House will play a little bit of PG together.
Philly:

Anderson Varejao    Tiago Splitter    Matt Bonner
David West    Kenyon Martin    Brad Miller
Andre Iguodala    Josh Childress    Marquis Daniels
Dwyane Wade    Leandro Barbosa
Kirk Hinrich    Toney Douglas   + the legendary Kevin McHale

Re: Next years Roster... how would you want it?
« Reply #39 on: July 28, 2009, 06:55:18 PM »

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People are throwing out random people and weird minutes.  For the regular season it looks like:
Rondo 30min, Marbury 10min (if he's all we can get)
Ray 30min, House 15min, Daniels 20min
Pierce 30min, Bowen 10min
KG 30min, Rasheed 25min
Perk 30min, Davis 10min
Along with Scal, JR, Walker, and Powe/whoever for the first half of season.
This is of course a minimum game, if it's against a strong team the starters will obviously get more minutes.  For the post-season I'd like to see Rondo, Ray, Paul, and KG get at least 5 more minutes each.
Bowen, Daniels, and Marbury are not my ideal picks, but i don't see us doing anything else.
Sorry but those numbers are off too.  Adding up you have at each position:
1 - 40 min
2 - 55 min
3 - 40 min
4 - 55 min
5 - 40 min
No, Ray+House+Daniels=65min
Rasheed will play some Center, Daniels will play some SF, and Daniels+House will play a little bit of PG together.


I don't see the minutes going that low for the starters.  Rondo can play 40 mpg without breaking a sweat and is in his early 20s.  Why, unless every game is going to be a blow out, would we only play him 30 mpg?  He's not going to be happy with that. 

Similarly, while I'm all for keeping the Big Three's minutes, down, I think they're going to have to get closer to 32-34 mpg to stay happy.  They already have to share the ball, which leads to career-low stats.  If we start messing with their minutes too much, their stats are really going to suffer.  I know they're all pretty unselfish; however, it's one thing to put up 15-18 ppg, it's quite another to only put up 12-14. 

Same with Sheed.  He's getting up there in years, but he's been a starter all his life.  I'm not sure he's going to be happy losing his starting position and losing minutes.  I think he's going to get close to 30 mpg. 

I also don't love this whole "give a bunch of guys limited minutes" idea.  If Daniels is better than Bowen, he should get Bowens's minutes.  Similarly, if Marbury outplays House or vice versa, we should probably just give one of them 25 mpg.  All you do by splitting minutes like that is let inferior players play. 

Re: Next years Roster... how would you want it?
« Reply #40 on: July 28, 2009, 10:10:27 PM »

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People are throwing out random people and weird minutes.  For the regular season it looks like:
Rondo 30min, Marbury 10min (if he's all we can get)
Ray 30min, House 15min, Daniels 20min
Pierce 30min, Bowen 10min
KG 30min, Rasheed 25min
Perk 30min, Davis 10min
Along with Scal, JR, Walker, and Powe/whoever for the first half of season.
This is of course a minimum game, if it's against a strong team the starters will obviously get more minutes.  For the post-season I'd like to see Rondo, Ray, Paul, and KG get at least 5 more minutes each.
Bowen, Daniels, and Marbury are not my ideal picks, but i don't see us doing anything else.
Sorry but those numbers are off too.  Adding up you have at each position:
1 - 40 min
2 - 55 min
3 - 40 min
4 - 55 min
5 - 40 min
No, Ray+House+Daniels=65min
Rasheed will play some Center, Daniels will play some SF, and Daniels+House will play a little bit of PG together.


I don't see the minutes going that low for the starters.  Rondo can play 40 mpg without breaking a sweat and is in his early 20s.  Why, unless every game is going to be a blow out, would we only play him 30 mpg?  He's not going to be happy with that. 

Similarly, while I'm all for keeping the Big Three's minutes, down, I think they're going to have to get closer to 32-34 mpg to stay happy.  They already have to share the ball, which leads to career-low stats.  If we start messing with their minutes too much, their stats are really going to suffer.  I know they're all pretty unselfish; however, it's one thing to put up 15-18 ppg, it's quite another to only put up 12-14. 

Same with Sheed.  He's getting up there in years, but he's been a starter all his life.  I'm not sure he's going to be happy losing his starting position and losing minutes.  I think he's going to get close to 30 mpg. 

I also don't love this whole "give a bunch of guys limited minutes" idea.  If Daniels is better than Bowen, he should get Bowens's minutes.  Similarly, if Marbury outplays House or vice versa, we should probably just give one of them 25 mpg.  All you do by splitting minutes like that is let inferior players play. 
I agree 100%.  I was just trying to give an average.  Minutes depend largely on who we're playing against, and what the match-up is at the time.  Some games, Bowen might more valuable than Daniels.  But overall, Daniels should be getting at least 10 more minutes per game than Bowen.
Also, I put down 30 minutes each as a MINIMUM for the starters.  Against the bigger teams they should be playing 35-40+ if needed.
As for the Rondo situation, I don't see why he should get more minutes than the big 3.  Sure he's more athletic, but Pierce and Garnett could go an hour if we needed them to.  I really think people make resting our starters a bigger deal than it has to be.  If they can't handle the minutes, then they should be conditioning more.  The best players should play the most minutes, not the youngest.  If Rondo gets an actual backup, I don't see a need for him to play 40+ minutes.
And as for Rasheed, unless it's an easy Center, he shouldn't be playing more than Perk IMO.  Perkins is SO much of a blessing on defense, especially against guys like Howard.
Philly:

Anderson Varejao    Tiago Splitter    Matt Bonner
David West    Kenyon Martin    Brad Miller
Andre Iguodala    Josh Childress    Marquis Daniels
Dwyane Wade    Leandro Barbosa
Kirk Hinrich    Toney Douglas   + the legendary Kevin McHale

Re: Next years Roster... how would you want it?
« Reply #41 on: July 29, 2009, 11:10:44 PM »

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PG - Rajon Rondo / Stephon Marbury / Lester Hudson
SG - Ray Allen / Eddie House / Tony Allen
SF - Paul Pierce / Marquis Daniels / Billy Walker
PF - Kevin Garnett / Glen Davis / Brian Scalabrine
C - Kendrick Perkins / Rasheed Wallace / Robert Swift