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Re: Sun night 10PM -- Tanguay on BBD
« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2009, 10:43:30 AM »

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We'll see what happens if Portland offers BBD for the MLE or more (in years 3+).  That's unlikely to happen, but I doubt very much that Danny would match any possible offer.
I don't think Portland would make that sort of offer. You don't pay an average backup big man 5+ million a year.

Jason Maxiell is a $5M a year player.  

Think he deserves it?


I think he warranted it when he got the contract. he hasn't lived up to it since though IMO

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Re: Sun night 10PM -- Tanguay on BBD
« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2009, 10:58:23 AM »

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We'll see what happens if Portland offers BBD for the MLE or more (in years 3+).  That's unlikely to happen, but I doubt very much that Danny would match any possible offer.
I don't think Portland would make that sort of offer. You don't pay an average backup big man 5+ million a year.

Jason Maxiell is a $5M a year player.  
He also rebounded and scored at a much more efficient rate than BBD his contract year.

Portland only has cap space for this year, they aren't going to waste it getting a backup. Even carrying it to the trade deadline should allow them to land an impact player.

Maxiell first three years:

2.3 pts and 1.1 rbds
5.0 pts and 2.8 rbds
7.9 pts and 5.3 rbs

BBD First two years

4.5 pts and 3.0 rbds
7.0 pts and 4 rbds

I think BBD has the nod so I dont think its out the realm that BBD could get $5M in a S&T

A few things to keep in mind;
Davis is two years younger.
Maxiell shot better than 50% vs. 44%
Maxiell pulls down rebounds 9.2 rebounds per 40 vs. 7.4
Maxiell is a better leaper
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Re: Sun night 10PM -- Tanguay on BBD
« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2009, 11:03:18 AM »

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We'll see what happens if Portland offers BBD for the MLE or more (in years 3+).  That's unlikely to happen, but I doubt very much that Danny would match any possible offer.
I don't think Portland would make that sort of offer. You don't pay an average backup big man 5+ million a year.

Jason Maxiell is a $5M a year player.  
He also rebounded and scored at a much more efficient rate than BBD his contract year.

Portland only has cap space for this year, they aren't going to waste it getting a backup. Even carrying it to the trade deadline should allow them to land an impact player.

Maxiell first three years:

2.3 pts and 1.1 rbds
5.0 pts and 2.8 rbds
7.9 pts and 5.3 rbs

BBD First two years

4.5 pts and 3.0 rbds
7.0 pts and 4 rbds

I think BBD has the nod so I dont think its out the realm that BBD could get $5M in a S&T

A few things to keep in mind;
Davis is two years younger.
Maxiell shot better than 50% vs. 44%
Maxiell pulls down rebounds 9.2 rebounds per 40 vs. 7.4
Maxiell is a better leaper

Which one would you prefer as your backup PF?  I'd take Baby all day long...

Re: Sun night 10PM -- Tanguay on BBD
« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2009, 11:32:10 AM »

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We'll see what happens if Portland offers BBD for the MLE or more (in years 3+).  That's unlikely to happen, but I doubt very much that Danny would match any possible offer.
I don't think Portland would make that sort of offer. You don't pay an average backup big man 5+ million a year.

Jason Maxiell is a $5M a year player.  
He also rebounded and scored at a much more efficient rate than BBD his contract year.

Portland only has cap space for this year, they aren't going to waste it getting a backup. Even carrying it to the trade deadline should allow them to land an impact player.

Maxiell first three years:

2.3 pts and 1.1 rbds
5.0 pts and 2.8 rbds
7.9 pts and 5.3 rbs

BBD First two years

4.5 pts and 3.0 rbds
7.0 pts and 4 rbds

I think BBD has the nod so I dont think its out the realm that BBD could get $5M in a S&T

A few things to keep in mind;
Davis is two years younger.
Maxiell shot better than 50% vs. 44%
Maxiell pulls down rebounds 9.2 rebounds per 40 vs. 7.4
Maxiell is a better leaper

Which one would you prefer as your backup PF?  I'd take Baby all day long...

ignoring salary, i'd definitely take Maxiell. He's more efficient as a scorer, a better rebounder, better athlete, better defender.

Re: Sun night 10PM -- Tanguay on BBD
« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2009, 11:35:48 AM »

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Tanguay just said on Comcast that he does not think the Celtics will match any offer that "comes Big Baby's way."

This doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

With the number of suitors dropping as well as the price, BBD is  quite valuable to the Celts even if it's just for a S&T.

Can you contextualize this for me? Did Tanguay mean that the Celtics won't match BBD regardless of the offer sheet or rather that there is a limit to what they would match. Essentially, I'm unclear on how he used the term 'any'.

It's literally all he said.
I saw it too.  It is literally all that was said.  Why he'd throw that out there and not qualify that opinion is beyond me. 

Re: Sun night 10PM -- Tanguay on BBD
« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2009, 11:38:16 AM »

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BBD is running his mouth off on his twitter page. 
If that was really his twitter page, if I were Danny I would have kicked Baby in the sack 3.1 million times and revoked his membership at the Waltham facility the same day.

Re: Sun night 10PM -- Tanguay on BBD
« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2009, 11:53:20 AM »

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We'll see what happens if Portland offers BBD for the MLE or more (in years 3+).  That's unlikely to happen, but I doubt very much that Danny would match any possible offer.
I don't think Portland would make that sort of offer. You don't pay an average backup big man 5+ million a year.

Jason Maxiell is a $5M a year player.  
He also rebounded and scored at a much more efficient rate than BBD his contract year.

Portland only has cap space for this year, they aren't going to waste it getting a backup. Even carrying it to the trade deadline should allow them to land an impact player.

Maxiell first three years:

2.3 pts and 1.1 rbds
5.0 pts and 2.8 rbds
7.9 pts and 5.3 rbs

BBD First two years

4.5 pts and 3.0 rbds
7.0 pts and 4 rbds

I think BBD has the nod so I dont think its out the realm that BBD could get $5M in a S&T

A few things to keep in mind;
Davis is two years younger.
Maxiell shot better than 50% vs. 44%
Maxiell pulls down rebounds 9.2 rebounds per 40 vs. 7.4
Maxiell is a better leaper

Which one would you prefer as your backup PF?  I'd take Baby all day long...

ignoring salary, i'd definitely take Maxiell. He's more efficient as a scorer, a better rebounder, better athlete, better defender.
Me too, Maxiel is closer to Powe than BBD. I think a healthy Powe would be a better fit for our bench than BBD this year anyways.

Re: Sun night 10PM -- Tanguay on BBD
« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2009, 11:59:18 AM »

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Big Baby is better than Maxiel.  Maxiel is too inconsistent.  They gave him that $5m contract in the hopes that he would develop into a good player.  He hasn't gotten any better since his rookie year.  Check out what Pistons fans say about him.

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=929501
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Re: Sun night 10PM -- Tanguay on BBD
« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2009, 01:24:26 PM »

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Big Baby is better than Maxiel.  Maxiel is too inconsistent.  They gave him that $5m contract in the hopes that he would develop into a good player.  He hasn't gotten any better since his rookie year.  Check out what Pistons fans say about him.

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=929501


Hard to judge a player's value from message boards. remember various opinions on this board of players like Perk, Al Jefferson, gerald green and Marcus Banks? not exactly spot on much of the time.

Re: Sun night 10PM -- Tanguay on BBD
« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2009, 07:56:58 PM »

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BBD is running his mouth off on his twitter page. 
If that was really his twitter page, if I were Danny I would have kicked Baby in the sack 3.1 million times and revoked his membership at the Waltham facility the same day.
What'd Baby say?
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Re: Sun night 10PM -- Tanguay on BBD
« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2009, 09:12:42 PM »

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Clearly (if Detroit's interest in BBD is true), Joe Dumars thinks BBD is a better player than Maxiel (logic dictates that since they are similar players that Joe wouldn't pursue BBD if he thought otherwise) -- however, the comparison is irrelevant.   If either one of them is getting starter's minutes next year, that spells very bad news for the Celtics.  In a reserve role -- likely 10-15 minutes a game next year (tops) --I don't see a big difference.  With that said, if you're going to pay Maxiel 5 million a year for the next 4 years (current salary), then why not just pay BBD (certainly will be less than that) as he is the player with more upside.