My Next Question About Daniels

[Redz]

I've been pretty well locked up all weekend for school, and was busy as hell getting ready for school the couple of days prior.  I'm reading a lot of stuff on here about "what if we do trade 3 players for Daniels" and "what if this that the other for Daniels,."

What's the deal?  Has a trade been done?  Is it simply a free agent signing?  Is it official?

I'm confused

[celticinorlando]

he has agreed to come to boston. his agent said both teams prefer and sign and trade and are working the players out.

[Redz]

he has agreed to come to boston. his agent said both teams prefer and sign and trade and are working the players out.

thanks...was to lazy and tired to figure it out myself

[Redz]

Any concern over his career Games Missed record?

03-04 missed 26 games
04-05 missed 22 games
05-06 missed 20 games
06-07 missed 37 games
07-08 missed  8 games
08=09 missed 28 games

I know he's only coming here to be a backup, but that's a pretty lousy track record

[vagrantwade]

Any concern over his career Games Missed record?

03-04 missed 26 games
04-05 missed 22 games
05-06 missed 20 games
06-07 missed 37 games
07-08 missed  8 games
08=09 missed 28 games

I know he's only coming here to be a backup, but that's a pretty lousy track record

Compared to anyone else in free agency, not really.

Pretty typical for a career bench player.

[tb727]

Is this official yet?  When is the press conference?  Who did we trade for him?  Or did we sign him?  Did I miss something in the past few days? 

I'm confused, and obviously inquisitive.

[Who]

Any concern over his career Games Missed record?

03-04 missed 26 games
04-05 missed 22 games
05-06 missed 20 games
06-07 missed 37 games
07-08 missed  8 games
08=09 missed 28 games

I know he's only coming here to be a backup, but that's a pretty lousy track record

Absolutely ... but the market lacked better options. Just have to take the risk, and hope he's healthy when it counts.

[Jon]

Any concern over his career Games Missed record?

03-04 missed 26 games
04-05 missed 22 games
05-06 missed 20 games
06-07 missed 37 games
07-08 missed  8 games
08=09 missed 28 games

I know he's only coming here to be a backup, but that's a pretty lousy track record

Absolutely ... but the market lacked better options. Just have to take the risk, and hope he's healthy when it counts.

Yeah.  I think the C's should err with him and the entire team on the side of caution and do what the Sox are doing with Wakefield now.  Could Wake probably pitch his next start?  Sure.  But why risk it?  It's even more true for the C's, who even with Bill Walker as the primary backup at the 2/3 would still probably win 65+ games.  So if Daniels even has the slightest tweak, the C's should just rest him for a week or two.  All that matters is that he's 100% for the playoffs.  This team could play the starters 20 mpg and still be a top 4 seed in the East. 

[Michael Anthony]

I wonder if McRoberts was the holdup, didn't he just re-up?

[the_Bird]

Any concern over his career Games Missed record?

03-04 missed 26 games
04-05 missed 22 games
05-06 missed 20 games
06-07 missed 37 games
07-08 missed  8 games
08=09 missed 28 games

I know he's only coming here to be a backup, but that's a pretty lousy track record

Absolutely ... but the market lacked better options. Just have to take the risk, and hope he's healthy when it counts.

Had he not missed so many games, Larry *might* have picked up his option (probably not, but Larry's done some weird things before).  At the very least, he wouldn't likely be a LLE-level free agent if he had been more durable. 

[wdleehi]

Any concern over his career Games Missed record?

03-04 missed 26 games
04-05 missed 22 games
05-06 missed 20 games
06-07 missed 37 games
07-08 missed  8 games
08=09 missed 28 games

I know he's only coming here to be a backup, but that's a pretty lousy track record

Absolutely ... but the market lacked better options. Just have to take the risk, and hope he's healthy when it counts.

Had he not missed so many games, Larry *might* have picked up his option (probably not, but Larry's done some weird things before).  At the very least, he wouldn't likely be a LLE-level free agent if he had been more durable. 

His 'duribility' is the reason the Celtics should look into another SF.

[the_Bird]

Can't argue with that, unless they're convinced that either Giddens or Walker will step up (and I don't think they are).  I'm more concerned about them adding another body up front, though.  Scal's still around, too, I'd rather he get his minutes at the 4 but he can spell Pierce a bit, too.  If they bring back Starbury or sign Ty Lue, you still have Eddie House backing up Jesus at the 2 and Scal at the 3 for those nights when Daniels is out.

So, yeah, sign another wing if you can at the minimum - but I think the first priority is sorting out the 4th-big man and the second priority is figuring out who's playing behind Rondo. 

[wdleehi]

Can't argue with that, unless they're convinced that either Giddens or Walker will step up (and I don't think they are).  I'm more concerned about them adding another body up front, though.  Scal's still around, too, I'd rather he get his minutes at the 4 but he can spell Pierce a bit, too.  If they bring back Starbury or sign Ty Lue, you still have Eddie House backing up Jesus at the 2 and Scal at the 3 for those nights when Daniels is out.

So, yeah, sign another wing if you can at the minimum - but I think the first priority is sorting out the 4th-big man and the second priority is figuring out who's playing behind Rondo. 

I think a 4th big (Davis or Diogu) and a backup PG (they have never seemed to like House as the main one) are on their lists.


I am not sure if another SF/SG is.

[P2]

Can't argue with that, unless they're convinced that either Giddens or Walker will step up (and I don't think they are).  I'm more concerned about them adding another body up front, though.  Scal's still around, too, I'd rather he get his minutes at the 4 but he can spell Pierce a bit, too.  If they bring back Starbury or sign Ty Lue, you still have Eddie House backing up Jesus at the 2 and Scal at the 3 for those nights when Daniels is out.

So, yeah, sign another wing if you can at the minimum - but I think the first priority is sorting out the 4th-big man and the second priority is figuring out who's playing behind Rondo. 

I think a 4th big (Davis or Diogu) and a backup PG (they have never seemed to like House as the main one) are on their lists.


I am not sure if another SF/SG is.

Milwaukee will not pick up Bowen's option, which expires August 1, and right now they're still trying to trade him. So I think he could be a cheap, but very effective help in the 10-15 minutes he would get. I'm pretty sure Danny is targeting him. I also think we wouldn't need a backup PG in this case, and could use House/Hudson/Daniels. I'm talking about:

SF PP/Bowen
SG Ray/Daniels/Giddens
PG Rondo/House/Hudson

If Bowen is out, use Daniels at 2/3 and House at 1/2.

If Daniels is out, use Bowen at 2/3 and House at 1/2.

If House is out, use Daniels at 1/2 and Bowen at 2/3.

[the_Bird]

Can't argue with that, unless they're convinced that either Giddens or Walker will step up (and I don't think they are).  I'm more concerned about them adding another body up front, though.  Scal's still around, too, I'd rather he get his minutes at the 4 but he can spell Pierce a bit, too.  If they bring back Starbury or sign Ty Lue, you still have Eddie House backing up Jesus at the 2 and Scal at the 3 for those nights when Daniels is out.

So, yeah, sign another wing if you can at the minimum - but I think the first priority is sorting out the 4th-big man and the second priority is figuring out who's playing behind Rondo. 

I think a 4th big (Davis or Diogu) and a backup PG (they have never seemed to like House as the main one) are on their lists.


I am not sure if another SF/SG is.

If they trade Giddens or Walker, I could see them going for someone like Bowen (who looks completely done to me, seems to be a waste of a roster space).  If both guys make it through the summer, I don't think they make a move, I think they hope and pray one of them proves able to play a few meaningful minutes and grows into that backup role.  There always seem to be a few fringe-rotation guys scuffling around after camp starts, and maybe they'll get lucky with someone who didn't get any good offers and starts getting desperate for a job once camps start.

As long as Giddens and Walker both wear the green, adding someone else (even at short money) seems unlikely with other positions of need.  And yeah, they haven't wanted Eddie running the point since he got here, I don't see him as being more of a liability out there than having someone like Ty Lue get minutes, but they're the ones making the decisions.

You have a free-agent target in mind?