Marbury "not closing the door on the celtics"

[BrickJames]

Signing Marbury would seal the deal for #18.  Mortal lock.  With a full training camp, with MD, Sheed...it's over before it begins.

Too bad he is not going to take the money we will offer him.

[Fafnir]

I'd rather have Marbury at the LLE than TJ Ford. 

Marbury knows the system and the role.

I don't think he truly accepts the role, plus do we really know if he'll be able to come in and be effective. You can't shoot around 36% as a PG.

Rondo can...just saying.

Again, Marbury is probably better than most PG's that would accept the minimum. If Marbury would accept it, I wouldn't mind it.

Rondo shot 50% for the season. I was talking about overall shooting percentage. Marbury would be fine if he could actually finish his drives with a score. Usually he just got his shot blocked or missed.

[xmuscularghandix]

I'd rather have Marbury at the LLE than TJ Ford. 

Marbury knows the system and the role.

I don't think he truly accepts the role, plus do we really know if he'll be able to come in and be effective. You can't shoot around 36% as a PG.

Rondo can...just saying.

Again, Marbury is probably better than most PG's that would accept the minimum. If Marbury would accept it, I wouldn't mind it.

Rondo shot 50% for the season. I was talking about overall shooting percentage. Marbury would be fine if he could actually finish his drives with a score. Usually he just got his shot blocked or missed.

was going to post this... Rondo had one of the highest FG% as a guard last year. Parker shot .506 and Rondo shot .503, the only players above them are all forwards and centers.

[BrickJames]

I can hit 50.3% of my layups too.

[Fafnir]

I can hit 50.3% of my layups too.

But that's my point, Marbury couldn't hit his shoots or his layups.

[mgent]

Some of you guys don't realize that the Marbury we would see this year would be a different guy than we saw last year.  He hadn't played ball in a while, he was out of shape, he didn't know how to play with our team, we threw him in the middle of things, plus he was just coming off the New York thing and he was probably scared us fans wouldn't accept him.  Also he was trying to play more like Rondo and less like Starbury.  Now that his confidence has increased and he would get to start over in a new season, i'm sure he would shoot a lot more of the open looks he got, and that would increase his FG%.

[Fafnir]

Some of you guys don't realize that the Marbury we would see this year would be a different guy than we saw last year.  He hadn't played ball in a while, he was out of shape, he didn't know how to play with our team, we threw him in the middle of things, plus he was just coming off the New York thing and he was probably scared us fans wouldn't accept him.  Also he was trying to play more like Rondo and less like Starbury.  Now that his confidence has increased and he would get to start over in a new season, i'm sure he would shoot a lot more of the open looks he got, and that would increase his FG%.

That's why I'd be open to him coming back at a minimum contract, no more than that.

I think he will be better, but I'm not sure. Add in his talk about how many minutes he wants I really don't think he fits what the Celtics need from a backup PG.

[wdleehi]

Some of you guys don't realize that the Marbury we would see this year would be a different guy than we saw last year.  He hadn't played ball in a while, he was out of shape, he didn't know how to play with our team, we threw him in the middle of things, plus he was just coming off the New York thing and he was probably scared us fans wouldn't accept him.  Also he was trying to play more like Rondo and less like Starbury.  Now that his confidence has increased and he would get to start over in a new season, i'm sure he would shoot a lot more of the open looks he got, and that would increase his FG%.

Why?  It is not like we saw him improving during his time here.  (which is what you would expect from rust)

No, he was pretty consistantly bad. 

[BrickJames]

Some of you guys don't realize that the Marbury we would see this year would be a different guy than we saw last year.  He hadn't played ball in a while, he was out of shape, he didn't know how to play with our team, we threw him in the middle of things, plus he was just coming off the New York thing and he was probably scared us fans wouldn't accept him.  Also he was trying to play more like Rondo and less like Starbury.  Now that his confidence has increased and he would get to start over in a new season, i'm sure he would shoot a lot more of the open looks he got, and that would increase his FG%.

Why?  It is not like we saw him improving during his time here.  (which is what you would expect from rust)

No, he was pretty consistantly bad. 

I'm willing to give a player of his caliber the benefit of the doubt.  I'm not trying to be a Marbury apologist, but consider that he was out of playing ball for a full year.  And right before that, he was out with an injury.  He came to a championship club with an established chemistry and discipline, and was asked to jump right in. 

I don't think he was 'consistently bad', despite what the numbers might say.  He was solid, showed flashes of brilliance, and played much better team defense than he's been given credit for by the media and on this blog.

I would certainly welcome him back in a backup role, for the right price as others have said.  He says all the right things, about realizing that Boston doesn't have a lot of money (or years) to invest in him, and that all he's looking for is a "fair deal".

The trouble is, his stubbornness gets in the way.  He takes everything that doesn't go exactly his way as a personal attack, and is too outspoken for his own good, given his history/reputation (warranted or not).  I wish he would just bite the bullet and come back for a year/two at the veteran's minimum, and try to get a ring to add to his already stellar basketball resume.

[hwangjini_1]

not sure this is anything new by me, but....

given that the celtics do NOT have veteran pg backup, marbury playing for the team has the same logic i saw when we all discussed him coming the boston a few months ago.

if his head is on right (which it seems to be)

if he doesnt cost much (which he wont)

then he would be a good backup for rondo for 15minutes a night.

if marbury want to be on the team, sign him. if he goes the celtics trouble, they can cut him, same as before.

[footey]

I think the Marbury problem is not his attitude. It is that he cuts down Eddie's minutes, because they are each 6'2" guards, one of whom is too short to cover the other team's normal 2 guard (usually around 6'5").  Marbury and/or Eddie ended up getting posted alot. It was a bad defensive problem.  If Eddie and not renewed, I think Danny would have pursued Stephon more aggressively, and Stephon would have been more likely to re-sign, as more minutes would be available.

[KungPoweChicken]

If Marbury is not closing the door on the C's, can we close the door and lock it on him? This guy has no good basketball left in the tank.

[Finkelskyhook]

Signing Marbury would seal the deal for #18.  Mortal lock.  With a full training camp, with MD, Sheed...it's over before it begins.

Too bad he is not going to take the money we will offer him.

Another quote:  I'm willing to give a player of his caliber the benefit of the doubt.

What caliber?  A narcissistic player who quit on his previous team?  A player who was for the most part, a collossal embarassment for us?  I had no doubt it was the wrong move signing him and nothing he's done since changes that.

If Marbury is not closing the door on the C's, can we close the door and lock it on him? This guy has no good basketball left in the tank.

Absofreakinglutely!
Make sure there's only one key to that door and Danny throws the key in the Atlantic....Or gives the keys to Orlando, Cleveland, or LA....Marbury would fit in much better there.

[Thruthelookingglass]

Signing Marbury would seal the deal for #18.  Mortal lock.  With a full training camp, with MD, Sheed...it's over before it begins.

Too bad he is not going to take the money we will offer him.

Another quote:  I'm willing to give a player of his caliber the benefit of the doubt.

What caliber?  A narcissistic player who quit on his previous team?  A player who was for the most part, a collossal embarassment for us?  I had no doubt it was the wrong move signing him and nothing he's done since changes that.

If Marbury is not closing the door on the C's, can we close the door and lock it on him? This guy has no good basketball left in the tank.

Absofreakinglutely!
Make sure there's only one key to that door and Danny throws the key in the Atlantic....Or gives the keys to Orlando, Cleveland, or LA....Marbury would fit in much better there.

If that's the way you really feel, just have Danny give the key to Brickowski.

[Brickowski]

I don't think he was an embarrassment to the Celtics.  He just embarrassed himself.