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Re: If Daniels signs the LLE, then...
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2009, 09:32:26 AM »

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If Danny takes a vacation, then make sure it's less than 7 days or he takes his phone. (Match any BBD offer)  :)

Re: If Daniels signs the LLE, then...
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2009, 09:35:26 AM »

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I no longer see the need for a back up PG. Among Daniels, Pruitt, House and TA, we can kill the 10-15 minutes a game that Rondo needs to rest. Of course, if Rondo gets hurt, then we have real issues.

I think it is still a position of need, even if not a position that will need a lot of minutes while Rondo is healthy.

Even assuming BBD is resigned/matched, I think a backup big man is a bigger need than backup PG at this point.  Especially with KG (and I believe Perkins) coming back from surgery. 

If the following two things occur, I will be very happy with the offseason:
(1) resign BBD
(2) sign a vet big for the vet min (ie: someone like Rasho).
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Re: If Daniels signs the LLE, then...
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2009, 09:36:58 AM »

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I no longer see the need for a back up PG. Among Daniels, Pruitt, House and TA, we can kill the 10-15 minutes a game that Rondo needs to rest. Of course, if Rondo gets hurt, then we have real issues.

I think it is still a position of need, even if not a position that will need a lot of minutes while Rondo is healthy.

Even assuming BBD is resigned/matched, I think a backup big man is a bigger need than backup PG at this point.  Especially with KG (and I believe Perkins) coming back from surgery. 

If the following two things occur, I will be very happy with the offseason:
(1) resign BBD
(2) sign a vet big for the vet min (ie: someone like Rasho).

I would be happy with Scali as the 5th big man and Ainge's man crush Swift as the 6th big man.  There just isn't a big need there if Davis resigns.

Re: If Daniels signs the LLE, then...
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2009, 09:45:26 AM »

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I no longer see the need for a back up PG. Among Daniels, Pruitt, House and TA, we can kill the 10-15 minutes a game that Rondo needs to rest. Of course, if Rondo gets hurt, then we have real issues.

I think it is still a position of need, even if not a position that will need a lot of minutes while Rondo is healthy.

Even assuming BBD is resigned/matched, I think a backup big man is a bigger need than backup PG at this point.  Especially with KG (and I believe Perkins) coming back from surgery. 

If the following two things occur, I will be very happy with the offseason:
(1) resign BBD
(2) sign a vet big for the vet min (ie: someone like Rasho).

I would be happy with Scali as the 5th big man and Ainge's man crush Swift as the 6th big man.  There just isn't a big need there if Davis resigns.

Exactly. But Scal will likely be traded around the deadline.

Re: If Daniels signs the LLE, then...
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2009, 09:48:07 AM »

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I no longer see the need for a back up PG. Among Daniels, Pruitt, House and TA, we can kill the 10-15 minutes a game that Rondo needs to rest. Of course, if Rondo gets hurt, then we have real issues.

I think it is still a position of need, even if not a position that will need a lot of minutes while Rondo is healthy.

Even assuming BBD is resigned/matched, I think a backup big man is a bigger need than backup PG at this point.  Especially with KG (and I believe Perkins) coming back from surgery. 

If the following two things occur, I will be very happy with the offseason:
(1) resign BBD
(2) sign a vet big for the vet min (ie: someone like Rasho).

I would be happy with Scali as the 5th big man and Ainge's man crush Swift as the 6th big man.  There just isn't a big need there if Davis resigns.

Exactly. But Scal will likely be traded around the deadline.

Could be traded.  Also could then be bought out and resigned by the Celtics. 

Re: If Daniels signs the LLE, then...
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2009, 09:53:17 AM »

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I no longer see the need for a back up PG. Among Daniels, Pruitt, House and TA, we can kill the 10-15 minutes a game that Rondo needs to rest. Of course, if Rondo gets hurt, then we have real issues.

I think it is still a position of need, even if not a position that will need a lot of minutes while Rondo is healthy.

Even assuming BBD is resigned/matched, I think a backup big man is a bigger need than backup PG at this point.  Especially with KG (and I believe Perkins) coming back from surgery. 

If the following two things occur, I will be very happy with the offseason:
(1) resign BBD
(2) sign a vet big for the vet min (ie: someone like Rasho).

I would be happy with Scali as the 5th big man and Ainge's man crush Swift as the 6th big man.  There just isn't a big need there if Davis resigns.

I agree there isn't a big need (no pun intended). But my point is that in terms of priorities, I view getting another backup big as a bigger priority than getting another backup PG.  But again, neither is a huge priority (assuming Daniels and BBD are both in green).
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Re: If Daniels signs the LLE, then...
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2009, 09:55:58 AM »

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we need to get he baby saga taken care of one way or the other. that is boston's next move

Re: If Daniels signs the LLE, then...
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2009, 09:56:31 AM »

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I no longer see the need for a back up PG. Among Daniels, Pruitt, House and TA, we can kill the 10-15 minutes a game that Rondo needs to rest. Of course, if Rondo gets hurt, then we have real issues.

I think it is still a position of need, even if not a position that will need a lot of minutes while Rondo is healthy.

Even assuming BBD is resigned/matched, I think a backup big man is a bigger need than backup PG at this point.  Especially with KG (and I believe Perkins) coming back from surgery. 

If the following two things occur, I will be very happy with the offseason:
(1) resign BBD
(2) sign a vet big for the vet min (ie: someone like Rasho).

I would be happy with Scali as the 5th big man and Ainge's man crush Swift as the 6th big man.  There just isn't a big need there if Davis resigns.

I agree there isn't a big need (no pun intended). But my point is that in terms of priorities, I view getting another backup big as a bigger priority than getting another backup PG.  But again, neither is a huge priority (assuming Daniels and BBD are both in green).

Unless Daniels plays point? He played a lot of point on offense last year with Jarret Jack playing SG, and them switching on offense.
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Re: If Daniels signs the LLE, then...
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2009, 09:56:46 AM »

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we need to get he baby saga taken care of one way or the other. that is boston's next move

Agreed!
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Re: If Daniels signs the LLE, then...
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2009, 09:58:53 AM »

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i want him back in boston but if not...sign and trade him and fill a void with it. we cannot just let him walk for free.

Re: If Daniels signs the LLE, then...
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2009, 10:37:38 AM »

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i want him back in boston but if not...sign and trade him and fill a void with it. we cannot just let him walk for free.

I agree. Like i said in another thread, it also tells us what we need for our final roster spot. With BBD we can afford to have another project 5th big man. Without BBD we need to start looking at guys such as Chris Wilcox or Joe Smith, and try to find ways to get them in sign and trades since we've lost the LLE.
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Re: If Daniels signs the LLE, then...
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2009, 10:39:16 AM »

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I no longer see the need for a back up PG. Among Daniels, Pruitt, House and TA, we can kill the 10-15 minutes a game that Rondo needs to rest. Of course, if Rondo gets hurt, then we have real issues.

I think it is still a position of need, even if not a position that will need a lot of minutes while Rondo is healthy.

Even assuming BBD is resigned/matched, I think a backup big man is a bigger need than backup PG at this point.  Especially with KG (and I believe Perkins) coming back from surgery. 

If the following two things occur, I will be very happy with the offseason:
(1) resign BBD
(2) sign a vet big for the vet min (ie: someone like Rasho).

I would be happy with Scali as the 5th big man and Ainge's man crush Swift as the 6th big man.  There just isn't a big need there if Davis resigns.

I agree there isn't a big need (no pun intended). But my point is that in terms of priorities, I view getting another backup big as a bigger priority than getting another backup PG.  But again, neither is a huge priority (assuming Daniels and BBD are both in green).

Unless Daniels plays point? He played a lot of point on offense last year with Jarret Jack playing SG, and them switching on offense.

Daniels played a lot of SF last year, not PG: http://www.82games.com/0809/08IND6.HTM

i want him back in boston but if not...sign and trade him and fill a void with it. we cannot just let him walk for free.

Matching is also a possibility.

Re: If Daniels signs the LLE, then...
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2009, 10:45:48 AM »

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Wow, it is amazing how one likely signing changes things so quickly.  Daniels appears to be a very serviceable, versitile, multi-position player which is just what you want coming off the bench.  After that though, I think we have to be careful what we do with BBD.  There are only 96 "big" minutes each night so the 4th big isn't going to play much.  It may actually be a better role for Scal over BBD.

Not saying that Scal is better than BBD, I am just saying a better fit (and much more likely to be happy in that role).  BBD can be a second or third big for most teams.  I think we would be better off signing and trading BBD (or just not signing) and getting a Robert Swift type of player and something else for the BBD money.  This 5th big is not going to play but just sits at the end of the bench and gives Perk someone to practice against or plays when there is foul trouble or other need for a true back-up center.  KG, Wallace, and BBD can play back-up center but it is not what we really want.

I see Pruitt playing back-up PG to start the season as he and Eddie form a complimentary back-court.  It may not be ideal but we can still win and then adjust when we see how other pieces are fitting in.  If you bring in more of a true back-up PG, then I am not sure what you do with Eddie.

As far as I am concerned, we could stop right here and we contend for a title (not that I expect DA is going to stop).

Re: If Daniels signs the LLE, then...
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2009, 10:54:21 AM »

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Don't forget about Tinsley, if he wins his arbitration this month and gets bought out by the Pacers. He fits Danny's style - good vet, bad rep (just like Starbury)that our team can handle, could be had for the vet min since he's bought out. Tinsley would love to re-establish his value by playing backup for a high profile team like the Celts...and he can hang out with his old buddy Marquis.

Re: If Daniels signs the LLE, then...
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2009, 11:07:12 AM »

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Don't forget about Tinsley, if he wins his arbitration this month and gets bought out by the Pacers. He fits Danny's style - good vet, bad rep (just like Starbury)that our team can handle, could be had for the vet min since he's bought out. Tinsley would love to re-establish his value by playing backup for a high profile team like the Celts...and he can hang out with his old buddy Marquis.

I don't know. He is a knuckle head and his attitude might not change. He was also always more style than substance (high assist but low assist to TO ratio).

Also, I really doubt he'll accept a low buyout since he's getting paid almost 8 mill a year.
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