Good Dwyer Article on Moon

[footey]

Kelly Dwyer feels that he would be a great pick up for a team off the bench.  In his prime. Decent 3 point shooter, good rebounder, runs and finishes the break, solid defender against small fowards. Underrated.  Now I see why we were trying to work a sign and trade for him with BBD.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Who-wants-Jamario-Moon-;_ylt=ApqHxrlF.R9Tkar1Czcu_CK8vLYF?urn=nba,177244

[Edgar]

Kelly Dwyer feels that he would be a great pick up for a team off the bench.  In his prime. Decent 3 point shooter, good rebounder, runs and finishes the break, solid defender against small fowards. Underrated.  Now I see why we were trying to work a sign and trade for him with BBD.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Who-wants-Jamario-Moon-;_ylt=ApqHxrlF.R9Tkar1Czcu_CK8vLYF?urn=nba,177244

yup


Rondo  XXXX
Allen  House
PP     Moon
KG     Sheed
Perk    XXX    Swift

I think there are only 2 xx`s on Cs bench left in our 10 man rotation
and playoffs 9 man rotation is almost ready...1 man away
p.s. moon, sheed and house are hell of a great bench by the way.

[johnnyrondo]

C's should get involved in a 3 way, where Miami gets Boozer, Utah gets Haslem and the C's get Moon.

[Fafnir]

C's should get involved in a 3 way, where Miami gets Boozer, Utah gets Haslem and the C's get Moon.

I don't see the incentive for Miami to include us in that sort of deal. What would the C's be giving up?

[johnnyrondo]

C's should get involved in a 3 way, where Miami gets Boozer, Utah gets Haslem and the C's get Moon.

I don't see the incentive for Miami to include us in that sort of deal. What would the C's be giving up?

We'd facilitate the contracts matching for two over the cap teams. Boozer will be making more than Haslem. So we send contract(s) to Utah.

[Fafnir]

C's should get involved in a 3 way, where Miami gets Boozer, Utah gets Haslem and the C's get Moon.

I don't see the incentive for Miami to include us in that sort of deal. What would the C's be giving up?

We'd facilitate the contracts matching for two over the cap teams. Boozer will be making more than Haslem. So we send contract(s) to Utah.

Boozer is already expiring, they only want to move him for financial relief this year. They need a team under the cap, likely Memphis, to help. Not a team like the C's.

[johnnyrondo]

C's should get involved in a 3 way, where Miami gets Boozer, Utah gets Haslem and the C's get Moon.

I don't see the incentive for Miami to include us in that sort of deal. What would the C's be giving up?

We'd facilitate the contracts matching for two over the cap teams. Boozer will be making more than Haslem. So we send contract(s) to Utah.

Boozer is already expiring, they only want to move him for financial relief this year. They need a team under the cap, likely Memphis, to help. Not a team like the C's.

They don't just want to lose him. They have no problem taking back a contract. They just don't want to pay two big men huge bucks for many years. Thus their reported interest in Haslem. So just b/c they don't want to pay Boozer a long term big deal doesn't mean they're just trying to dump him.

Obviously a team like Memphis always makes a trade easier, but we do have expiring one yr contracts and we do have BBD too.

Now if your argument is that it would be super complicated b/c of base year stuff that is valid, but I'm sure they have people that can figure that out. Check out the celticsblog draft. We figure intricate trades all the time 

[Mr October]

Here's a deal that could work:

to Utah: Haslem, Tony Allen, 3 mil cash from Miami, 3 mil cash from Boston

to Miami: Boozer

to Boston Moon at a starting price of 3 million

Utah gets 6 million in cash, saves 3 million off the cap, another 3 million of the luxury tax. Utah saves 12 million total.

[TheCelticTruth]

dont forget the rumor that he wants to play here...just need a way to make the money work.

[footey]

Yeah, I'm starting to get intrigued with getting him, especially if we could do it while keeping Baby.  Let us hope. He would be great in open floor with Rondo.

[Fafnir]

C's should get involved in a 3 way, where Miami gets Boozer, Utah gets Haslem and the C's get Moon.

I don't see the incentive for Miami to include us in that sort of deal. What would the C's be giving up?

We'd facilitate the contracts matching for two over the cap teams. Boozer will be making more than Haslem. So we send contract(s) to Utah.

Boozer is already expiring, they only want to move him for financial relief this year. They need a team under the cap, likely Memphis, to help. Not a team like the C's.

They don't just want to lose him. They have no problem taking back a contract. They just don't want to pay two big men huge bucks for many years. Thus their reported interest in Haslem. So just b/c they don't want to pay Boozer a long term big deal doesn't mean they're just trying to dump him.

Obviously a team like Memphis always makes a trade easier, but we do have expiring one yr contracts and we do have BBD too.

Now if your argument is that it would be super complicated b/c of base year stuff that is valid, but I'm sure they have people that can figure that out. Check out the celticsblog draft. We figure intricate trades all the time 

No they want to save money this year, and get value. Otherwise they could just stand pat with Boozer and let his contract expire.

[Bankshot]

Here's a deal that could work:

to Utah: Haslem, Tony Allen, 3 mil cash from Miami, 3 mil cash from Boston

to Miami: Boozer

to Boston Moon at a starting price of 3 million

Utah gets 6 million in cash, saves 3 million off the cap, another 3 million of the luxury tax. Utah saves 12 million total.

I like this because we get to keep Baby too. That would be awesome.

[ssspence]

C's should get involved in a 3 way, where Miami gets Boozer, Utah gets Haslem and the C's get Moon.

I don't see the incentive for Miami to include us in that sort of deal. What would the C's be giving up?

We'd facilitate the contracts matching for two over the cap teams. Boozer will be making more than Haslem. So we send contract(s) to Utah.

Boozer is already expiring, they only want to move him for financial relief this year. They need a team under the cap, likely Memphis, to help. Not a team like the C's.

They don't just want to lose him. They have no problem taking back a contract. They just don't want to pay two big men huge bucks for many years. Thus their reported interest in Haslem. So just b/c they don't want to pay Boozer a long term big deal doesn't mean they're just trying to dump him.

Obviously a team like Memphis always makes a trade easier, but we do have expiring one yr contracts and we do have BBD too.

Now if your argument is that it would be super complicated b/c of base year stuff that is valid, but I'm sure they have people that can figure that out. Check out the celticsblog draft. We figure intricate trades all the time 

No they want to save money this year, and get value. Otherwise they could just stand pat with Boozer and let his contract expire.

They're likely more interested in Baby at a fair price and some salary relief. See my idea on this in the separate trade idea.

[ppj702]

Here's a deal that could work:

to Utah: Haslem, Tony Allen, 3 mil cash from Miami, 3 mil cash from Boston

to Miami: Boozer

to Boston Moon at a starting price of 3 million

Utah gets 6 million in cash, saves 3 million off the cap, another 3 million of the luxury tax. Utah saves 12 million total.

Deal could work, but do we really want to pay $9 million for the first year of Jamario Moon?
  ($3 mill. salary + $3 mill. luxury tax + $3 mill. cash to Utah)  Ouch!

[Mr October]

Here's a deal that could work:

to Utah: Haslem, Tony Allen, 3 mil cash from Miami, 3 mil cash from Boston

to Miami: Boozer

to Boston Moon at a starting price of 3 million

Utah gets 6 million in cash, saves 3 million off the cap, another 3 million of the luxury tax. Utah saves 12 million total.

Deal could work, but do we really want to pay $9 million for the first year of Jamario Moon?
  ($3 mill. salary + $3 mill. luxury tax + $3 mill. cash to Utah)  Ouch!

-minus Tony Allen's 2.5 = 6.5. There might be room to only send 2 mill cash, reducing the hit to $5.5. Anyway, it burns, but it wont be 9 mill for Moon.