4 Team Trade (Bos/Sac/Det/Utah) It realistic, I promise ;D

[beantownboy171]

 Just an expansion on a few of the trade rumors. Pretty much merged three trades, rip for boozer, expirings for noccioni, and celtics interest in C.J. Miles.

Boston Celtics

Outgoing Salary
Ray Allen- 18.7 Million/1 Year
Glen Davis- 2 Million/4 year (Actually signed to 4 mill deal, BYC rules)
Total Outgoing- 20.7 Million

Incoming Salary
Rip Hamilton- 11.3 Million/4 Years
Andres Noccioni- 7.5 Million/3 Years
C.J. Miles- 3.7 Million/2 Years
Total Incoming- 22.5 Million

Detroit Pistons

Outgoing Salary
Rip Hamilton- 11.3 Million/4 Years
Total- 11.3

Incoming Salary
Carlos Boozer- 12.6 Million/1 Year
Total- 12.6

Utah Jazz

Outgoing Salary
Carlos Boozer- 12.6 Million/1 Year
C.J. Miles- 3.7 Million/2 Years
Kyle Korver- 5.3 Million/1 Year
Total- 21.6 Million

Incoming Salary
Ray Allen- 18.7 Million/1 Year
Total- 18.7 Million

Sacramento Kings

Outgoing Salary
Andres Noccioni- 7.5 Million/3 Years
Total- 7.5 Million

Incoming Salary
Kyle Korver- 5.3 Million/1 Year
Glen Davis- 4 Million/4 Years
Total- 9.3

This trade would open up money for the jazz to resign millsap. Give detroit the trade they wanted for boozer all along. Give boston depth at the three, and would allow them to give noccioni tons of minutes at both the 3 and 4. Kings would get a nice young big man who they've expressed interest in in the past, and an expiring deal to clear off noccioni's contract.

The kings cap space allows the deal to happen, due to the BYC rules we would need a team with cap space in most sign and trade deals.

[GKC]

Just an expansion on a few of the trade rumors. Pretty much merged three trades, rip for boozer, expirings for noccioni, and celtics interest in C.J. Miles.

Boston Celtics

Outgoing Salary
Ray Allen- 18.7 Million
Glen Davis- 2 Million (Actually signed to 4 mill deal, BYC rules)
Total Outgoing- 20.7 Million

Incoming Salary
Rip Hamilton- 11.3 Million
Andres Noccioni- 7.5 Million
C.J. Miles- 3.7 Million
Total Incoming- 22.5 Million

Detroit Pistons

Outgoing Salary
Rip Hamilton- 11.3 Million

Incoming Salary
Carlos Boozer- 12.6 Million

Utah Jazz

So we basically swap Ray for Rip, and then get Noc for big baby leaving. Interesting. It depends on whether or not Sacto wants BBD.

My main problem is also Rip. He may be younger than Ray and slightly quicker at this point, but Rip is like Ray minus the killer instinct and the good 3 ball. ANd a 2 point shooting Ray just doesn't space the floor as well in my book.

I don't like it only because I prefer to keep ray, but TP for the creativity.

[beantownboy171]

Just an expansion on a few of the trade rumors. Pretty much merged three trades, rip for boozer, expirings for noccioni, and celtics interest in C.J. Miles.

Boston Celtics

Outgoing Salary
Ray Allen- 18.7 Million
Glen Davis- 2 Million (Actually signed to 4 mill deal, BYC rules)
Total Outgoing- 20.7 Million

Incoming Salary
Rip Hamilton- 11.3 Million
Andres Noccioni- 7.5 Million
C.J. Miles- 3.7 Million
Total Incoming- 22.5 Million

Detroit Pistons

Outgoing Salary
Rip Hamilton- 11.3 Million

Incoming Salary
Carlos Boozer- 12.6 Million

Utah Jazz

So we basically swap Ray for Rip, and then get Noc for big baby leaving. Interesting. It depends on whether or not Sacto wants BBD.

My main problem is also Rip. He may be younger than Ray and slightly quicker at this point, but Rip is like Ray minus the killer instinct and the good 3 ball. ANd a 2 point shooting Ray just doesn't space the floor as well in my book.

I don't like it only because I prefer to keep ray, but TP for the creativity.

Hehe give it another look now that i've completed it. Pressed post way to early and had to go in and edit it.

[GKC]

Just an expansion on a few of the trade rumors. Pretty much merged three trades, rip for boozer, expirings for noccioni, and celtics interest in C.J. Miles.

Boston Celtics

Outgoing Salary
Ray Allen- 18.7 Million
Glen Davis- 2 Million (Actually signed to 4 mill deal, BYC rules)
Total Outgoing- 20.7 Million

Incoming Salary
Rip Hamilton- 11.3 Million
Andres Noccioni- 7.5 Million
C.J. Miles- 3.7 Million
Total Incoming- 22.5 Million

Detroit Pistons

Outgoing Salary
Rip Hamilton- 11.3 Million

Incoming Salary
Carlos Boozer- 12.6 Million

Utah Jazz

So we basically swap Ray for Rip, and then get Noc for big baby leaving. Interesting. It depends on whether or not Sacto wants BBD.

My main problem is also Rip. He may be younger than Ray and slightly quicker at this point, but Rip is like Ray minus the killer instinct and the good 3 ball. ANd a 2 point shooting Ray just doesn't space the floor as well in my book.

I don't like it only because I prefer to keep ray, but TP for the creativity.

Hehe give it another look now that i've completed it. Pressed post way to early and had to go in and edit it.

Ah ok makes more sense. Utah gets to keep Milsap with the 4 mill they've saved. I still don't know why Sacto would really want to do it, but I can understand it.

I still prefer Ray > Rip. Rip also messes us up financially just a little more. Again, props on the creativity.

[beantownboy171]

Just an expansion on a few of the trade rumors. Pretty much merged three trades, rip for boozer, expirings for noccioni, and celtics interest in C.J. Miles.

Boston Celtics

Outgoing Salary
Ray Allen- 18.7 Million
Glen Davis- 2 Million (Actually signed to 4 mill deal, BYC rules)
Total Outgoing- 20.7 Million

Incoming Salary
Rip Hamilton- 11.3 Million
Andres Noccioni- 7.5 Million
C.J. Miles- 3.7 Million
Total Incoming- 22.5 Million

Detroit Pistons

Outgoing Salary
Rip Hamilton- 11.3 Million

Incoming Salary
Carlos Boozer- 12.6 Million

Utah Jazz

So we basically swap Ray for Rip, and then get Noc for big baby leaving. Interesting. It depends on whether or not Sacto wants BBD.

My main problem is also Rip. He may be younger than Ray and slightly quicker at this point, but Rip is like Ray minus the killer instinct and the good 3 ball. ANd a 2 point shooting Ray just doesn't space the floor as well in my book.

I don't like it only because I prefer to keep ray, but TP for the creativity.

Hehe give it another look now that i've completed it. Pressed post way to early and had to go in and edit it.

Ah ok makes more sense. Utah gets to keep Milsap with the 4 mill they've saved. I still don't know why Sacto would really want to do it, but I can understand it.

I still prefer Ray > Rip. Rip also messes us up financially just a little more. Again, props on the creativity.

Well it would hinge on how much interest they have in Glen Davis. When the trade rumors came up last trade deadline about the c's interest in noccioni the deal hinged and ended up not happening because the c's we're unwilling to include glen davis. And there have been reports that the kings are very high on him.

That being said, they are taking on an extra 2 million of salary next year. But I think getting rid noccioni's long term contract for korvers expiring (forgot to mention that) contract would make it worth it.

[Change]

Nice try, But not in this economy. Teams are cutting cost & we will be adding. Don't forget all the talent in 2010 FA market. We might be able to get 1 or 2 cheap good player.

[beantownboy171]

Just an expansion on a few of the trade rumors. Pretty much merged three trades, rip for boozer, expirings for noccioni, and celtics interest in C.J. Miles.

Boston Celtics

Outgoing Salary
Ray Allen- 18.7 Million
Glen Davis- 2 Million (Actually signed to 4 mill deal, BYC rules)
Total Outgoing- 20.7 Million

Incoming Salary
Rip Hamilton- 11.3 Million
Andres Noccioni- 7.5 Million
C.J. Miles- 3.7 Million
Total Incoming- 22.5 Million

Detroit Pistons

Outgoing Salary
Rip Hamilton- 11.3 Million

Incoming Salary
Carlos Boozer- 12.6 Million

Utah Jazz

So we basically swap Ray for Rip, and then get Noc for big baby leaving. Interesting. It depends on whether or not Sacto wants BBD.

My main problem is also Rip. He may be younger than Ray and slightly quicker at this point, but Rip is like Ray minus the killer instinct and the good 3 ball. ANd a 2 point shooting Ray just doesn't space the floor as well in my book.

I don't like it only because I prefer to keep ray, but TP for the creativity.

Hehe give it another look now that i've completed it. Pressed post way to early and had to go in and edit it.

Ah ok makes more sense. Utah gets to keep Milsap with the 4 mill they've saved. I still don't know why Sacto would really want to do it, but I can understand it.

I still prefer Ray > Rip. Rip also messes us up financially just a little more. Again, props on the creativity.

Well it would hinge on how much interest they have in Glen Davis. When the trade rumors came up last trade deadline about the c's interest in noccioni the deal hinged and ended up not happening because the c's we're unwilling to include glen davis. And there have been reports that the kings are very high on him.

That being said, they are taking on an extra 2 million of salary next year. But I think getting rid noccioni's long term contract for korvers expiring (forgot to mention that) contract would make it worth it.

Also I agree Ray>Rip but I think Rip being younger and the depth added from to the bench makes the deal worth it for the c's.

[beantownboy171]

Nice try, But not in this economy.

I guess Sacramento might have a problem with it. Althought they'd still be well under the cap. It would help both detroit and utah financially. And the two million dollars the celtics add in the deal would be roughly what the LLE would be, that they no longer would have to use on a wing.

Also if you took the cap hit of resigning baby at 4 mill, and not doing this trade, you would have roughly the same cap number as you would with the trade. And thats without even signing a wing.

[QuinielaBox]

Nice deal for us and Sac but it seems like Utah and Detriot are getting jonesed here.

[D Dub]

I don't think any trade that breaks up the starting lineup is realistic.  Teams position for years to get a mix of guys like we currently have.

We will only improve by adding to the bench.  Shaking up the starting lineup will only hasten our championship window to close.

[byennie]

This trade would open up money for the jazz to resign millsap.

How so? Trade Machine is telling me that Utah is $7M over the cap. They would have to save $7M just to start freeing up cap space. Or am I missing something?

[Jon Niednagel]

At least the trade is fairly well reasoned. There is a rationale behind it and doesn't seem to be too one-sided. Whether people like it or not is simply a matter of subjective opinion and preference. TP for the effort.

[nickagneta]

I like the creativity.

I like the reasoning.

I like the return on the expiring Ray contract.

And unfortunately Utah is getting royally screwed. Three players in their top 9 rotation for Ray Allen won't cut it in Utah who doesn't have a whole lot of guys signed to contracts to begin with.

With Millsap signed to a poison pill contract, not counting him they have only ten players signed. This would put them in well into luxury land and only give them 8 players. I don't see them agreeing to this.

TP for the attempt. I liked everything else about the deal though.

[beantownboy171]

Yah I'd say everyone does the deal but Utah. Maybe if we sent miles to sacramento, and took korver out of the deal it would be more appealling.

Detroit does it, boston does it, sac does it.Utah, not so much.

[guava_wrench]

This trade would open up money for the jazz to resign millsap.

How so? Trade Machine is telling me that Utah is $7M over the cap. They would have to save $7M just to start freeing up cap space. Or am I missing something?

They actually don't need cap space to sign Milsap.

They just need to dump $ to avoid lux tax.