Could Wade be a Celtic in 2010?

[ToppersBsktball10]

Riley apparently texted Wade with an extension last night, and Wade ignored him and said he didn't want to work out a deal yet. Maybe he doesn't want to stay in Miami?

[GKC]

Yeah, the Wallace signing drops the available space, even in this scenario, to $11 million, and cap holds (about $450 K each for 7 additional spots - $3 to $3.5 mil) brings it down to $7.5 - 8 million with a $53 mil cap. Why would Pierce take an $11 million pay cut to add a $7.5 mil player when it requires losing Allen and Rondo, who are worth more than that? Doesn't make any sense.

If Pierce takes a pay cut, it won't be to make cap room, because the Wallace signing makes clear we're not going to have cap room next year. He might do it to get an extension and give the owners a little reprieve on salary next year so they have more money available to resign Rondo and/or Allen and bring in another midlevel bench player (or starting 2).

Agreed. Most likely do it to give Allen a fair extension and if not, we get a little more breathing room.

[wdleehi]

Riley apparently texted Wade with an extension last night, and Wade ignored him and said he didn't want to work out a deal yet. Maybe he doesn't want to stay in Miami?

He wants them to add.

[Chris]

Yeah, the Wallace signing drops the available space, even in this scenario, to $11 million, and cap holds (about $450 K each for 7 additional spots - $3 to $3.5 mil) brings it down to $7.5 - 8 million with a $53 mil cap. Why would Pierce take an $11 million pay cut to add a $7.5 mil player when it requires losing Allen and Rondo, who are worth more than that? Doesn't make any sense.

If Pierce takes a pay cut, it won't be to make cap room, because the Wallace signing makes clear we're not going to have cap room next year. He might do it to get an extension and give the owners a little reprieve on salary next year so they have more money available to resign Rondo and/or Allen and bring in another midlevel bench player (or starting 2).

I think the moral of the story is, Gary Tanguay is a moron, who got lucky once, and is now dangerous, because way too many people are paying attention to him, despite the fact that he has no clue what he is talking about.

[guava_wrench]

We could barely do this pre-Sheed.

The only chance is a sign and trade.

Which I don't think Miami would do, certainly not within the EC.

I'm not sure they have much leverage if Wade decides he wants to go to the Celtics and they want to get anything in return.

Yet I doubt the likelihood of a sign and trade since we would have to send back around 15 million in salary to match.

[guava_wrench]

Riley apparently texted Wade with an extension last night, and Wade ignored him and said he didn't want to work out a deal yet. Maybe he doesn't want to stay in Miami?

Wow. They send extension offers through text messages?

[GKC]

Riley apparently texted Wade with an extension last night, and Wade ignored him and said he didn't want to work out a deal yet. Maybe he doesn't want to stay in Miami?

Wow. They send extension offers through text messages?

Shaq found out he was traded through twitter....

[byennie]

Ditto to what others have said, it's pretty much impossible to sign him as a free agent.

I think the only possible scenario would involve a sign-and-trade, but I'm not sure how that would work either. It would take some serious cap magic, even if Rondo was in the deal because he'll be a BYC guy.

Most likely the new cap means we either have to trade Ray Ray now, or we won't be able to replace him with a high paid player at all. Or we just keep re-signing everyone we can and ride this group as far as they will go. Which is exactly why I think there is still a small chance that Danny moves Allen and/or Rondo before the deadline.

The big question mark is Rondo and his value. Do you move him if you can get Joe Johnson? Amare? Chris Paul? Where does he rate, and what is Allen's value if we don't move him as an expiring deal now?

Interesting times... at least we know we're gonna have an exciting, contending team any which way for a while.

[Prof. Clutch]

Beyond all the financial restrictions which make the likelihood of this not happening stronger, there are plenty of other things to factor into it.  Wade plays for a warm weather team down in one of the biggest party cities in the States.  Unfortunately these things do really weigh in a players mind when they are deciding what they are going to do in the future.  Just the Boston weather alone would make it unlikely that he would be jumping at a shot to join a Boston squad.

He's already won a championship, and he knows how great that feels.  I'm sure he wants another one, but he's still young and has time to start over on any team he wants essentially.  He's not some veteran who's championship starved nearing the end of his career.  He will have lots of suitors and contending teams looking to acquire him.

I'm not saying I would ever reject the idea of Wade being on the C's.  Of course I would want him, but would he really be the ideal guy to replace Ray Allen?  I think Wade's game isn't exactly suited for what the C's do (share the ball, work in and out of the post, hit open shooters if defenses collapse, and finally go to the one on one Pierce style option if those other things aren't there.)  I think we need someone who is more like Ray Allen than we do someone who is like Dwayne Wade, who is definitely not known for his jump shooting or 3pt shooting efficiency.

In the end I think the best team for him is the one he's on now.  They will be able to offer him the most money, a warm crazy city to play in, the sole responsibility as star of the team, and continuity in his career.  That's just my opinion though.

[ToppersBsktball10]

Riley apparently texted Wade with an extension last night, and Wade ignored him and said he didn't want to work out a deal yet. Maybe he doesn't want to stay in Miami?

Wow. They send extension offers through text messages?

Apparently Riley contacts everyone through texts now haha

[timepiece33]

I give it a 1% chance that Wade chooses Boston over chicago, new york, and Miami.

There is a good chance he is going to sign an extension anyways.

Why do people bring up NY in this equation?   They are a disaster of a team AND the city is a high cost one for athletes.   It isn't likely that the endorsement possibilities will overcome that point.   

Name the last big FA to sign with the Knicks? 

In MLB, where the Yankees are paying a premium ... that's one thing.  In other sports, NY is simply not a destination UNLESS they are paying a premium.

IMO, it is about Chicago (his hometown) and Miami.

[vagrantwade]

I give it a 1% chance that Wade chooses Boston over chicago, new york, and Miami.

There is a good chance he is going to sign an extension anyways.

Why do people bring up NY in this equation?   They are a disaster of a team AND the city is a high cost one for athletes.   It isn't likely that the endorsement possibilities will overcome that point.   

Name the last big FA to sign with the Knicks? 

In MLB, where the Yankees are paying a premium ... that's one thing.  In other sports, NY is simply not a destination UNLESS they are paying a premium.

IMO, it is about Chicago (his hometown) and Miami.

If New York can land another big piece, they could easily use that to lurer Wade.

[Chris]

 

Name the last big FA to sign with the Knicks? 

I don't know if this is relevant, since they have not had much opportunity to sign anyone in the Salary Cap era. 

While NY may be expensive to live in, I think to many pro athletes (as well as musicians, actors, etc.) exposure is just as important, if not more important, and in NY, you can get maximum exposure, not just on the court, but out on the town.

NY absolutely is an attractive location for free agents.  Although I do agree that Chicago probably has the inside track, as they also are a big market, are Wade's hometown, and have Derrick Rose.

[MrTripleDouble10]

Name the last big FA to sign with the Knicks? 

This is most likely due to the fact that the Knicks have been well over the cap for about 10-15 years now and haven't had the cap space to sign a big name FA.

[timepiece33]

 

Name the last big FA to sign with the Knicks? 

I don't know if this is relevant, since they have not had much opportunity to sign anyone in the Salary Cap era. 

While NY may be expensive to live in, I think to many pro athletes (as well as musicians, actors, etc.) exposure is just as important, if not more important, and in NY, you can get maximum exposure, not just on the court, but out on the town.

NY absolutely is an attractive location for free agents.  Although I do agree that Chicago probably has the inside track, as they also are a big market, are Wade's hometown, and have Derrick Rose.

Musicians and Actors are one thing, because it allows for less travel.

I know plenty of pro athletes who wouldn't even consider NY and agents who try to steer clients away from those towns.  IMO, you are talking about a very dated belief that you can't get exposure elsewhere. 

Do people believe that LeBron's or Dwayne Wade's profile is going to change by living in NY?  For athletes like Kobe, Lebron, and Dwayne ... ad people come to them.   The only player that might fit the profile with is Chris Bosh. 

The reason Texas is so popular is because of tax implications. 

For young athletes in their early 20s, NY is a great place.  For most FA's who have families ... they don't even live in the city.