Could Wade be a Celtic in 2010?

[nickagneta]

On the front page Gary Tanguay made a comment that he thought it was possible Paul Pierce opted out after this year and take a pay cut to bring in another player.

On the possibility Paul Pierce could opt out and restructure his deal after this season to create cap space/save the C’s money:

GT: I think it’s possible Paul would restructure his deal. With Ray Allen potentially gone after this year, the C’s could have some space created if Paul helped them out. He is a team guy through and through so that would not surprise me if he took a paycut to help the team.

So I did a little math, okay very little, and came up with if Pierce opts out and then immediately restructures to $10 million a year first year and the cap is a bit over $53 million then the Celtics could squeeze in a $17 million max contract that could attract a player with Dwayne Wade's tenure in the league.

Would Pierce take that big a cut to facilitate bringing in another new face of the franchise? He might then be costing himself tens of millions of dollars to be the third banana but win. Could his ego and pocketbook really live with that?

If he did, think of the possibilities of attracting a major that would accept a contract starting at $17 million a year. LeBron anyone? Wade? Brandon Roy? Joe Johnson? Heck, even Kobe has a player option, I think.

[vagrantwade]

I give it a 1% chance that Wade chooses Boston over chicago, new york, and Miami.

There is a good chance he is going to sign an extension anyways.

[Fafnir]

I think we'd have to renounce Rondo under than scenario to get rid of his cap hold.

[GKC]

Miami could also offer more money. And it means nothing if he accepts the extension real soon.

Also, Paul may restructure, but I doubt it'll go to 10mill (that's about 50% paycut. He gets almost 19 next year)

[JSD]

On the front page Gary Tanguay made a comment that he thought it was possible Paul Pierce opted out after this year and take a pay cut to bring in another player.

On the possibility Paul Pierce could opt out and restructure his deal after this season to create cap space/save the C’s money:

GT: I think it’s possible Paul would restructure his deal. With Ray Allen potentially gone after this year, the C’s could have some space created if Paul helped them out. He is a team guy through and through so that would not surprise me if he took a paycut to help the team.

So I did a little math, okay very little, and came up with if Pierce opts out and then immediately restructures to $10 million a year first year and the cap is a bit over $53 million then the Celtics could squeeze in a $17 million max contract that could attract a player with Dwayne Wade's tenure in the league.

Would Pierce take that big a cut to facilitate bringing in another new face of the franchise? He might then be costing himself tens of millions of dollars to be the third banana but win. Could his ego and pocketbook really live with that?

If he did, think of the possibilities of attracting a major that would accept a contract starting at $17 million a year. LeBron anyone? Wade? Brandon Roy? Joe Johnson? Heck, even Kobe has a player option, I think.

No way Paul only accepts $10 Million a year if he opts out. I'd say a $14 M minimum. Otherwise what is his incentive?

[nickagneta]

I think we'd have to renounce Rondo under than scenario to get rid of his cap hold.

I think you are right because my salary source isn't listing Sheed's $6 + million amount for next year and that doesn't include any other multi-year deals the C's sign before the season starts.

[footey]

I would love Joe Johnson. Could you imagine him in the back court with Rondo? That would be illegal. 

[coachenew33]

Great thought on this post.

I have been thinking about Wade as Ray's replacement for quite a while if only the numbers worked out.  But with Rondo and Perkins due for huge raises I am not sure this could ever be a reality.  Bringing Joe Johnson back would be simply wonderful as well and it would also save Pierce's legs which as we saw were real tired by the time the Magic series ended.  Fun to think about, but a year away, this season's excitement first!!!

[guava_wrench]

We could barely do this pre-Sheed.

The only chance is a sign and trade.

[Fafnir]

We could barely do this pre-Sheed.

The only chance is a sign and trade.

Which I don't think Miami would do, certainly not within the EC.

[Chris]

Even if Pierce did restructure, the C's would have to renounce everyone (including Allen and Rondo) in order to get anywhere close to max cap room (Roy can explain the details better, but you clearly left out some of the cap holds in your calculations).

Let's suffice it to say, that this simply is not going to happen.

Even if it is possible that Pierce were to opt-out, the C's would be lucky to have slightly more than the MLE in cap room, if they wanted any shot of putting a decent team on the floor.  

[GKC]

Even if Pierce did restructure, the C's would have to renounce everyone (including Allen and Rondo) in order to get anywhere close to max cap room (Roy can explain the details better, but you clearly left out some of the cap holds in your calculations).

Let's suffice it to say, that this simply is not going to happen.

Even if it is possible that Pierce were to opt-out, the C's would be lucky to have slightly more than the MLE in cap room, if they wanted any shot of putting a decent team on the floor.  

Also, your calculations seem to stick with this years cap. It's predicted to drop next year.

[marseye]

 

[Chris]

Even if Pierce did restructure, the C's would have to renounce everyone (including Allen and Rondo) in order to get anywhere close to max cap room (Roy can explain the details better, but you clearly left out some of the cap holds in your calculations).

Let's suffice it to say, that this simply is not going to happen.

Even if it is possible that Pierce were to opt-out, the C's would be lucky to have slightly more than the MLE in cap room, if they wanted any shot of putting a decent team on the floor.  

Also, your calculations seem to stick with this years cap. It's predicted to drop next year.

He took that into account (he said it would be $53 million), but it looks like he was only calculting the salaries of Pierce, Garnett, and Perk, ignoring the others, and the cap holds.

[paintitgreen]

Yeah, the Wallace signing drops the available space, even in this scenario, to $11 million, and cap holds (about $450 K each for 7 additional spots - $3 to $3.5 mil) brings it down to $7.5 - 8 million with a $53 mil cap. Why would Pierce take an $11 million pay cut to add a $7.5 mil player when it requires losing Allen and Rondo, who are worth more than that? Doesn't make any sense.

If Pierce takes a pay cut, it won't be to make cap room, because the Wallace signing makes clear we're not going to have cap room next year. He might do it to get an extension and give the owners a little reprieve on salary next year so they have more money available to resign Rondo and/or Allen and bring in another midlevel bench player (or starting 2).