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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #4920 on: August 02, 2009, 11:41:24 AM »

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HEAT looking to get an all-star caliber player for a few borderline type guys....On the block are Ty Thomas, Morrow, James Harden, Yi, Jordan Hill. 

We will take offers on anyone, but they are the ones most likely getting on a raft and leaving Cuba  :)

an all-star for border line guys.  where do i sign up for something like that

All Star caliber doesn't necessarily mean ALL STAR.  Just someone who may be in consideration as an all-star...
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #4921 on: August 02, 2009, 11:47:00 AM »

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HEAT looking to get an all-star caliber player for a few borderline type guys....On the block are Ty Thomas, Morrow, James Harden, Yi, Jordan Hill. 

We will take offers on anyone, but they are the ones most likely getting on a raft and leaving Cuba  :)

an all-star for border line guys.  where do i sign up for something like that

All Star caliber doesn't necessarily mean ALL STAR.  Just someone who may be in consideration as an all-star...

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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #4922 on: August 02, 2009, 12:26:44 PM »

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Nuggets are ready to package two or more players (outside of Oden, Love, Green, Conley and Foye) for a single scorer (under the age of 28).


For win now teams looking for depth, a package of Haslem, Pietrus and Scali might look very nice.



I do not need depth.  I will not be trading one of my guys for a platter of lower picked players. 

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #4923 on: August 02, 2009, 12:31:37 PM »

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Nuggets are ready to package two or more players (outside of Oden, Love, Green, Conley and Foye) for a single scorer (under the age of 28).


For win now teams looking for depth, a package of Haslem, Pietrus and Scali might look very nice.



I do not need depth.  I will not be trading one of my guys for a platter of lower picked players. 
What does where they were picked have anything to do with anything?

If I'm a win now team, and I am, I would value Antonio McDyess much higher than I would ever value Blake Griffin. Griffin was a mid 1st rounder and McDyess a lower 4th rounder.

I think the judged quality of the player and how they fit your team is a much better gauge of value than where they were picked simply because people are prone to make drafting mistakes.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #4924 on: August 02, 2009, 12:34:48 PM »

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Nuggets are ready to package two or more players (outside of Oden, Love, Green, Conley and Foye) for a single scorer (under the age of 28).


For win now teams looking for depth, a package of Haslem, Pietrus and Scali might look very nice.



I do not need depth.  I will not be trading one of my guys for a platter of lower picked players. 
What does where they were picked have anything to do with anything?

If I'm a win now team, and I am, I would value Antonio McDyess much higher than I would ever value Blake Griffin. Griffin was a mid 1st rounder and McDyess a lower 4th rounder.

I think the judged quality of the player and how they fit your team is a much better gauge of value than where they were picked simply because people are prone to make drafting mistakes.

Because if I had wanted the player picked after my pick more then the player I picked, I would have drafted them instead.  I haven't traded any of the players I picked for my team (Darko was never picked for my team but for an agreed trade already in place). 

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #4925 on: August 02, 2009, 12:37:22 PM »

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Nuggets are ready to package two or more players (outside of Oden, Love, Green, Conley and Foye) for a single scorer (under the age of 28).


For win now teams looking for depth, a package of Haslem, Pietrus and Scali might look very nice.



I do not need depth.  I will not be trading one of my guys for a platter of lower picked players. 
What does where they were picked have anything to do with anything?

If I'm a win now team, and I am, I would value Antonio McDyess much higher than I would ever value Blake Griffin. Griffin was a mid 1st rounder and McDyess a lower 4th rounder.

I think the judged quality of the player and how they fit your team is a much better gauge of value than where they were picked simply because people are prone to make drafting mistakes.

Because if I had wanted the player picked after my pick more then the player I picked, I would have drafted them instead.  I haven't traded any of the players I picked for my team (Darko was never picked for my team but for an agreed trade already in place). 
So what your saying is you don't make mistakes or feel that any player chosen below a player you chose would be a better fit, in retrospect?

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #4926 on: August 02, 2009, 12:40:37 PM »

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Nuggets are ready to package two or more players (outside of Oden, Love, Green, Conley and Foye) for a single scorer (under the age of 28).


For win now teams looking for depth, a package of Haslem, Pietrus and Scali might look very nice.



I do not need depth.  I will not be trading one of my guys for a platter of lower picked players. 
What does where they were picked have anything to do with anything?

If I'm a win now team, and I am, I would value Antonio McDyess much higher than I would ever value Blake Griffin. Griffin was a mid 1st rounder and McDyess a lower 4th rounder.

I think the judged quality of the player and how they fit your team is a much better gauge of value than where they were picked simply because people are prone to make drafting mistakes.

Because if I had wanted the player picked after my pick more then the player I picked, I would have drafted them instead.  I haven't traded any of the players I picked for my team (Darko was never picked for my team but for an agreed trade already in place). 
So what your saying is you don't make mistakes or feel that any player chosen below a player you chose would be a better fit, in retrospect?

No.  I am happy with how my team was selected and how it fits.

I am looking to plug a hole in my team (a lead scorer) that I wasn't in position to draft to compliment Oden.  (young scorer.  A player like Ray Allen or Baron Davis was to old for the direction I was going)

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #4927 on: August 02, 2009, 12:42:34 PM »

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I think asking a contender to trade a lead scorer for Pietrus and Haslem is pretty out there, but you did get the 5.5 from the Bucks, so maybe you can do it.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #4928 on: August 02, 2009, 12:47:37 PM »

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Nuggets are ready to package two or more players (outside of Oden, Love, Green, Conley and Foye) for a single scorer (under the age of 28).


For win now teams looking for depth, a package of Haslem, Pietrus and Scali might look very nice.



I do not need depth.  I will not be trading one of my guys for a platter of lower picked players. 
What does where they were picked have anything to do with anything?

If I'm a win now team, and I am, I would value Antonio McDyess much higher than I would ever value Blake Griffin. Griffin was a mid 1st rounder and McDyess a lower 4th rounder.

I think the judged quality of the player and how they fit your team is a much better gauge of value than where they were picked simply because people are prone to make drafting mistakes.

Because if I had wanted the player picked after my pick more then the player I picked, I would have drafted them instead.  I haven't traded any of the players I picked for my team (Darko was never picked for my team but for an agreed trade already in place). 
So what your saying is you don't make mistakes or feel that any player chosen below a player you chose would be a better fit, in retrospect?

No.  I am happy with how my team was selected and how it fits.

I am looking to plug a hole in my team (a lead scorer) that I wasn't in position to draft to compliment Oden.  (young scorer.  A player like Ray Allen or Baron Davis was to old for the direction I was going)
Okay. Though as jr said, I think expecting to get a quality scorer under 28 for Pietrus and Haslem will be very tough.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #4929 on: August 02, 2009, 01:07:39 PM »

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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #4930 on: August 02, 2009, 01:12:21 PM »

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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #4931 on: August 02, 2009, 01:21:20 PM »

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Got tons of depth, looking to move a couple solid rotation guys for a capable starter/defender at the 2/3.

Guys who can be moved include Andray Blatche, Sweet Lou Williams, Ike Diogu, Jamal Crawford, Brandon Rush, etc.  Guys who will probably end up starting a lot of games (maybe not Ike) are available in a package where I consolidate talent (2 or 3 for 1...got to make room for Alex Gordon (21 ppg, 10 3-pt attempted per game in the Turkish league), you know...
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #4932 on: August 02, 2009, 01:40:46 PM »

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Nuggets are ready to package two or more players (outside of Oden, Love, Green, Conley and Foye) for a single scorer (under the age of 28).


For win now teams looking for depth, a package of Haslem, Pietrus and Scali might look very nice.



I do not need depth.  I will not be trading one of my guys for a platter of lower picked players. 
What does where they were picked have anything to do with anything?

If I'm a win now team, and I am, I would value Antonio McDyess much higher than I would ever value Blake Griffin. Griffin was a mid 1st rounder and McDyess a lower 4th rounder.

I think the judged quality of the player and how they fit your team is a much better gauge of value than where they were picked simply because people are prone to make drafting mistakes.

Because if I had wanted the player picked after my pick more then the player I picked, I would have drafted them instead.  I haven't traded any of the players I picked for my team (Darko was never picked for my team but for an agreed trade already in place). 
So what your saying is you don't make mistakes or feel that any player chosen below a player you chose would be a better fit, in retrospect?

No.  I am happy with how my team was selected and how it fits.

I am looking to plug a hole in my team (a lead scorer) that I wasn't in position to draft to compliment Oden.  (young scorer.  A player like Ray Allen or Baron Davis was to old for the direction I was going)
Okay. Though as jr said, I think expecting to get a quality scorer under 28 for Pietrus and Haslem will be very tough.

I doubt I can get a top scorer for that type of package (I am open to other packages as well).   But a top secondary offensive threat, that is a possibility.



But my team is designed to have time.  So whether it is through luck of the NBA lotto or a great trade with Ming next offseason, there are ways to add that piece. 


Therefor, I am not offering the farm right now.  I might give up a huge package for the right player (if offered), but I am not likely going out and offering. 


Basically, I know what my team is and understand what needs to happen and have a timeline in my head. 

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #4933 on: August 02, 2009, 01:51:26 PM »

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If you have time, in a year or two that piece could be Austin Daye. Just saying.

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« Reply #4934 on: August 02, 2009, 02:10:27 PM »

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