2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread

[johnnyrondo]

It even scrolls while it plays.   

Yay more scrolling 2006 videos   

I'm confused.

Regarding GC posting it, and I know you disagree with this, but I just think its better to point out one's teams pluses instead of attack other teams. That's the nastiness I have spoken against. Once one person attacks, obviously the other will come back most likely. That's my 2 cents.

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I'm stung by the nastiness.  Anyway, our team was earning all-star berths last year, and MVP votes within the past two.  Sorry we're not relying upon out-of-shape rookies to win us games.

We're not relying on any rookies to win games. I purposely put that comment, b/c you had posted negative stuff on the Bulls and you said it was ok to then give an opposing view. And I do come back like I said. And you also said previously if you use a " " it's just teasing. Following your advise. Sorry you took it too personally.

[Roy Hobbs]

It even scrolls while it plays.   

Yay more scrolling 2006 videos   

I'm confused.

Regarding GC posting it, and I know you disagree with this, but I just think its better to point out one's teams pluses instead of attack other teams. That's the nastiness I have spoken against. Once one person attacks, obviously the other will come back most likely. That's my 2 cents.

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I'm stung by the nastiness.  Anyway, our team was earning all-star berths last year, and MVP votes within the past two.  Sorry we're not relying upon out-of-shape rookies to win us games.

We're not relying on any rookies to win games. I purposely put that comment, b/c you had posted negative stuff on the Bulls and you said it was ok to then give an opposing view. And I do come back like I said. And you also said previously if you use a " " it's just teasing. Following your advise. Sorry you took it too personally.

Nah, nothing wrong with a bit of hypocrisy.  Everyone's been able to see through it, anyway.  I don't mind the criticism; I haven't been the one to get all in a twist when others point out the flaws in my players.

[johnnyrondo]

For full disclosure here is last year's MVP voting

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/05/04/mvp.release.20090504/index.html

And MVP voting from 2007/2008

http://www.sportscity.com/nba/2007-08-nba-mvp-voting-results

Manu did get nine 5th place votes for a total of 9 points for the record. He was solid. Chris Paul finished with 28 first place votes   64 2nd place votes   32 third place votes and   two 4th place votes and 894 total points

[Roy Hobbs]

For full disclosure here is last year's MVP voting

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/05/04/mvp.release.20090504/index.html

And MVP voting from 2007/2008

http://www.sportscity.com/nba/2007-08-nba-mvp-voting-results

Manu did get nine 5th place votes for a total of 9 points for the record. He was solid. Chris Paul finished with 28 first place votes   64 2nd place votes   32 third place votes and   two 4th place votes and 894 total points

Sorry, I didn't realize that either Edgar or I had said Manu is better than Chris Paul.  Our mistake.

Chris Paul is better than Manu.  Portland is better than Chicago.  You know, the team that *doesn't* rely on guys who are currently out of the league or lazy rookies in its rotation.

[johnnyrondo]

 I don't mind the criticism; I haven't been the one to get all in a twist when others point out the flaws in my players.

Good to know. I was almost positive you were the one throwing out words like "sabotaging" and "pimping" and "alliances" in your feud with another Western conference team that dared not to have your flawed team #1 in its division.

[Roy Hobbs]

 I don't mind the criticism; I haven't been the one to get all in a twist when others point out the flaws in my players.

Good to know. I was almost positive you were the one throwing out words like "sabotaging" and "pimping" and "alliances" in your feud with another Western conference team that dared not to have your flawed team #1 in its division.

Yes, unlike other teams, we do our debating in public.  We don't go undercutting teams behind their back, or recruit others to lobby the commissioner on our behalf.

[johnnyrondo]

For full disclosure here is last year's MVP voting

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/05/04/mvp.release.20090504/index.html

And MVP voting from 2007/2008

http://www.sportscity.com/nba/2007-08-nba-mvp-voting-results

Manu did get nine 5th place votes for a total of 9 points for the record. He was solid. Chris Paul finished with 28 first place votes   64 2nd place votes   32 third place votes and   two 4th place votes and 894 total points

Sorry, I didn't realize that either Edgar or I had said Manu is better than Chris Paul.  Our mistake.

Chris Paul is better than Manu.  Portland is better than Chicago.  You know, the team that *doesn't* rely on guys who are currently out of the league or lazy rookies in its rotation.

Again with the misinformation. J-Will had gotten offers to play in the NBA and is weighing them, similar to Lee, Robinson, Sessions, etc. My rookies are my 12-14th men. You keep talking like Manu is an MVP candidate, when the fact is I looked it up and he didn't get not one single first, second, third, or 4th place vote. And that was a couple seasons ago. Your team was built for 2006. Sorry, but as many times as you try and power play your way to this popularity title, the fact remains your team would implode in real life over too many egos, injuries, old age, horrendous defense in the back court, players arguing over minutes, and a shoot first point guard.

All the lipstick you want to put on Shaq won't disguise the fact that Miami had to move him to get better and now Phoenix was willing to eat ten million dollars to move him. Sorry, just because your the mod doesn't mean I have to like your flawed team. I find that unfair.

[The Walker Wiggle]

Yes, unlike other teams, we do our debating in public.  We don't go undercutting teams behind their back, or recruit others to lobby the commissioner on our behalf.

Alright, you had the last word, you said you'd drop it. And I still let the the first cheap shot today slide.

Regarding the second episode, it's very difficult to stay tight-lipped when another GM is reportedly bashing / sabotaging you behind your back, as I think we all have a right to defend our teams fairly.  That being said, perhaps it could have been handled a different way.

For a guy who screams about integrity you're responsible for way too much creepy behavior. Including chat room spying and now publicly sharing my pm to the commissioner and misrepresenting it.

Anyway, looks like your thin skin has started a fight in yet another CB Draft thread. Pat on the back?

[Roy Hobbs]

All the lipstick you want to put on Shaq won't disguise the fact that Miami had to move him to get better and now Phoenix was willing to eat ten million dollars to move him. Sorry, just because your the mod doesn't mean I have to like your flawed team. I find that unfair.

Nobody's asking you to like my team.  We know you're going to vote against Portland in the playoffs, probably in every round.  We both know that that won't be your candid assessment, but we both know it's what you'll do.  (Sadly, you've yet to cast a vote, so we can't see how you'd mark Toronto down.)

However, how is it "misinformation" to say Jason Williams is out of the league?  How is it more accurate to put Williams into the same category as Ramon Sessions?  One of those players played last season, and one of them was retired.

[johnnyrondo]

 I don't mind the criticism; I haven't been the one to get all in a twist when others point out the flaws in my players.

Good to know. I was almost positive you were the one throwing out words like "sabotaging" and "pimping" and "alliances" in your feud with another Western conference team that dared not to have your flawed team #1 in its division.

Yes, unlike other teams, we do our debating in public.  We don't go undercutting teams behind their back, or recruit others to lobby the commissioner on our behalf.

Tin foil hat much? You are seriously paranoid. I'm not sure which of the teams that said Portland wasn't the front runner you're referring to, but I'm starting to think you might use your mod privleges to read every teams PM's to make sure everyone loves Portland. I doubt you would do that, but with your Deepthroat sources and all, it's getting kind of ridiculous. And I know if somehow Portland doesn't win this thing, you'll have tons of excuses. Give me a break. For someone who claims this is only a game, you need to heed your own advice.

[Rondo2287]

For full disclosure here is last year's MVP voting

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/05/04/mvp.release.20090504/index.html

And MVP voting from 2007/2008

http://www.sportscity.com/nba/2007-08-nba-mvp-voting-results

Manu did get nine 5th place votes for a total of 9 points for the record. He was solid. Chris Paul finished with 28 first place votes   64 2nd place votes   32 third place votes and   two 4th place votes and 894 total points

Sorry, I didn't realize that either Edgar or I had said Manu is better than Chris Paul.  Our mistake.

Chris Paul is better than Manu.  Portland is better than Chicago.  You know, the team that *doesn't* rely on guys who are currently out of the league or lazy rookies in its rotation.

Again with the misinformation. J-Will had gotten offers to play in the NBA and is weighing them, similar to Lee, Robinson, Sessions, etc. My rookies are my 12-14th men. You keep talking like Manu is an MVP candidate, when the fact is I looked it up and he didn't get not one single first, second, third, or 4th place vote. And that was a couple seasons ago. Your team was built for 2006. Sorry, but as many times as you try and power play your way to this popularity title, the fact remains your team would implode in real life over too many egos, injuries, old age, horrendous defense in the back court, players arguing over minutes, and a shoot first point guard.

All the lipstick you want to put on Shaq won't disguise the fact that Miami had to move him to get better and now Phoenix was willing to eat ten million dollars to move him. Sorry, just because your the mod doesn't mean I have to like your flawed team. I find that unfair.

So is that you pointing out the positives in others teams?  I would hate to see what you being negative looks like

[Roy Hobbs]

For a guy who screams about integrity you're responsible for way too much creepy behavior. Including chat room spying and now publicly sharing my pm to the commissioner and misrepresenting it.

I didn't have a clue that you lobbied the Commissioner on behalf of JR, but thanks for sharing.  And yet, you and J.R. were the ones yesterday who objected to the use of the word "alliances".  Strange, that.

[johnnyrondo]

Rondo2 As I've said repeated times, I do comeback when I'm attacked.

[Roy Hobbs]

 I don't mind the criticism; I haven't been the one to get all in a twist when others point out the flaws in my players.

Good to know. I was almost positive you were the one throwing out words like "sabotaging" and "pimping" and "alliances" in your feud with another Western conference team that dared not to have your flawed team #1 in its division.

Yes, unlike other teams, we do our debating in public.  We don't go undercutting teams behind their back, or recruit others to lobby the commissioner on our behalf.

Tin foil hat much? You are seriously paranoid.

WalkerWiggle just admitted to lobbying on your behalf, my friend.  So I'm not sure that "paranoid" is the right word.  Perhaps "accurate".

[johnnyrondo]

All the lipstick you want to put on Shaq won't disguise the fact that Miami had to move him to get better and now Phoenix was willing to eat ten million dollars to move him. Sorry, just because your the mod doesn't mean I have to like your flawed team. I find that unfair.

Nobody's asking you to like my team.  We know you're going to vote against Portland in the playoffs, probably in every round.  We both know that that won't be your candid assessment, but we both know it's what you'll do.  (Sadly, you've yet to cast a vote, so we can't see how you'd mark Toronto down.)

However, how is it "misinformation" to say Jason Williams is out of the league?  How is it more accurate to put Williams into the same category as Ramon Sessions?  One of those players played last season, and one of them was retired.

I love how you know all. And if someone votes against Portland it's not candid. But you say if the Bulls win this it'll just be because of alliances.