Marco Belinelli trade target for Celtics?

[cornbreadsmart]

he looks like Rocky .

[Change]

Don Nelson is a jacka**. Warriors have a serious logjam at the guard position. I think he would a great addition with a super upside. He does two things we need shot making & creating.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_pLchxznAA

[GKC]

He's incredibly raw, has only ever been in 77 games (we don't need young projects, we have many), and isn't even an SF, which is what we need.

Also, he's got a pretty high turnover rate for someone who doesn't pass that often.

[Change]

He's incredibly raw, has only ever been in 77 games (we don't need young projects, we have many), and isn't even an SF, which is what we need.

Also, he's got a pretty high turnover rate for someone who doesn't pass that often.

Marco is an upgrade over TA/JR/Bill/Gabe. All they do is take up roster spots. Just send them Gabe & $$$$. And we'll have a tall PG with handles & he can make shots.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhDsztcOXaI

[GKC]

He's incredibly raw, has only ever been in 77 games (we don't need young projects, we have many), and isn't even an SF, which is what we need.

Also, he's got a pretty high turnover rate for someone who doesn't pass that often.

Marco is an upgrade over TA/JR/Bill/Gabe. All they do is take up roster spots. Just send them Gabe & $$$$. And we'll have a tall PG with handles & he can make shots.

Marco Bel
PER 11.86
FG% 44
Rebound Rate 4.4
Rebounds/40 3.2
Ast Rate 18.1
Ast/40 4.0
TS% 54.7
Points/40 16.9

Tony Allen
PER 12.96
FG% 48
Rebound Rate 7.1
Rebounds/40 4.7
Ast Rate 13.9
Ast/40 3.0
TS% 54.1
Points/40 16.2

Have you watched Belinelli? He doesn't exactly have handles and still has a turnover rate that is pretty high (slighlty lower than Allen's). I don't like Allen, but is Marco an upgrade? Barely. He shoots the 3 ball better and passes a little more, rebounds less, shoots a lower% and gets to the line less. Big whoop. We also need a guy who can play SF. So he's definitely not the answer.

[Change]

So this is an upgrade. In his 5th year Tony puts up similar numbers as a 2nd year player in a limited role. And we thought Tony could be our 6th man. At least now we've made a major upgrade having Sheed.

[GKC]

So this is an upgrade. In his 5th year Tony puts up similar numbers as a 2nd year player in a limited role. And we thought Tony could be our 6th man.

First of all, its a very limited sample size. Tony in his 3rd year put up monster numbers and look how he regressed? My point is, Marco at this point in his career (read every scouting report, even those in GS agree) is raw, and is a project. I think we have enough people such as Walker, Giddens and possible Lester Hudson as projects, and we don't need to take the risk of another one. We need sure things at the moment, or else we aren't really upgrading from last year's roster.

At least now we've made a major upgrade having Sheed.

That doesn't exactly mean anything. We need a first guard off the bench. Sheed doesn't exactly give Pierce a capable backup. Tony didn't and I'm sure we have better options than Marco.

[kozlodoev]

Let's make something clear: there are many players out there. A number of them are good players/prospects, like Belinelli.

The bottom line is, no-one is going to trade you good players for a pack of garbage (Well, I lied. Maybe Chris Wallace will). Allen + Pruitt is not going to do it. Neither will Allen + Pruitt + Scalabrine. Those will get you an average player who's not going to get any better, likely on a bad contract.

So can we lay aside whatever we're smoking, and do away with the "OMGweshouldtradeforthisguygetitdoneDanny" threads? Pretty please?

[Change]

Let's make something clear: there are many players out there. A number of them are good players/prospects, like Belinelli.

The bottom line is, no-one is going to trade you good players for a pack of garbage (Well, I lied. Maybe Chris Wallace will). Allen + Pruitt is not going to do it. Neither will Allen + Pruitt + Scalabrine. Those will get you an average player who's not going to get any better, likely on a bad contract.

You are correct. Only a drunk manager would take what we have to offer. Dam you Chris Wallace. Its just that Marco is stuck behind plethora of guards in Warriors. It would be nice if we can clear space & try to land him. We'll have something to look for to, instead of watching that train wreck Tony Allen

[revcummings]

Watching the videos the kids game kind of reminds me of Danny Ainge! They do have a log jam at the guard position, even though it might be a long shot you've got to try.

[ThaPreacher]

Smells like a
Sign and trade: Big Baby for Little Rocky
no Apollo, no Paulie.

[Chris]

Let's make something clear: there are many players out there. A number of them are good players/prospects, like Belinelli.

The bottom line is, no-one is going to trade you good players for a pack of garbage (Well, I lied. Maybe Chris Wallace will). Allen + Pruitt is not going to do it. Neither will Allen + Pruitt + Scalabrine. Those will get you an average player who's not going to get any better, likely on a bad contract.

You are correct. Only a drunk manager would take what we have to offer. Dam you Chris Wallace. Its just that Marco is stuck behind plethora of guards in Warriors. It would be nice if we can clear space & try to land him. We'll have something to look for to, instead of watching that train wreck Tony Allen

The scenario that makes the most sense if the C's really like Belinelli is if they do a sign and trade with Baby going to Detroit (Boston sending some cash to Detroit to make it worth-while), creating a TPE.  Then using that TPE to absorb Belinelli's contract in return for a first round pick next year.

[Amonkey]

I agree that Belinelli is raw, but he's not red meat raw.  He's more like rare raw, he's got the grill marks and the crust may be brown, but the inside is still very much red and bloody.  However, with this type of meat, you can just place it in the oven and it would be cooked faster than just a raw slab of meat.

What I am saying is that this guy has some playing experience, and I am not sure the inconsistency of Don Nelson's system and the plethora of swings on Golden State really has given him the ability to gain all the experience necessary.  Perhaps playing behind some of the all time greatest with some good solid minutes could really get this kid cooking and we could see some improvements.  This seems to be like a low risk proposition.

PS. Is it clear that I work as a cook?

[GKC]

I agree that Belinelli is raw, but he's not red meat raw.  He's more like rare raw, he's got the grill marks and the crust may be brown, but the inside is still very much red and bloody.  However, with this type of meat, you can just place it in the oven and it would be cooked faster than just a raw slab of meat.

What I am saying is that this guy has some playing experience, and I am not sure the inconsistency of Don Nelson's system and the plethora of swings on Golden State really has given him the ability to gain all the experience necessary.  Perhaps playing behind some of the all time greatest with some good solid minutes could really get this kid cooking and we could see some improvements.  This seems to be like a low risk proposition.

PS. Is it clear that I work as a cook?

My point exactly. He's played less than a full season in the NBA. I don't know if I trust that on a contending team.

[bruinsandceltics]

I agree that Belinelli is raw, but he's not red meat raw.  He's more like rare raw, he's got the grill marks and the crust may be brown, but the inside is still very much red and bloody.  However, with this type of meat, you can just place it in the oven and it would be cooked faster than just a raw slab of meat.

What I am saying is that this guy has some playing experience, and I am not sure the inconsistency of Don Nelson's system and the plethora of swings on Golden State really has given him the ability to gain all the experience necessary.  Perhaps playing behind some of the all time greatest with some good solid minutes could really get this kid cooking and we could see some improvements.  This seems to be like a low risk proposition.

PS. Is it clear that I work as a cook?

My point exactly. He's played less than a full season in the NBA. I don't know if I trust that on a contending team.

But you trust our bench?

Right now he would be our 8th man off the bench (would move to 9th if BBDis resigned). Its an upgrade over TA/Pruitt/JR/Walker/Scal. If GSW was going to give him away I would definitely be knocking.