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[Nut from Nh]

You have to look at taking advantage of the knicks refusal to committ cash set aside for the 2010 FA bonanza.

I am a HUGE Nate Robinson fan. He gets a ton of steals, passes well (although he's not a true pg), and he'a explosive on offense.  He's also freaking KRYPTONATE and Howard must be destroyed.  He is exactly what we need off our bench.  Then there is David Lee, double double machine, young and still improving.  Also, there is Al Harrington who would also be a great versatile big who rebounds surprisingly well for a  guy who likes to shoot the 3.

I feel like we could get younger and make good additions on the cheap.

Is it possible to sign and trade for Lee and Nate?  What will they see for offers?  I don't know if the rules allow for it but what about Ray for both of these guys?  Move Paul to SG and this is where I'll get screamed at but... move KG to SF.  KG prefers to play off the wing and elbow and he has the ability to guard SF's.  From there the possibilities are endless, and we become a super deep team:

Rondo
PP
KG
Lee
Perk

If we get Sheed, all the better!  You can basically do any combination of Perk/Sheed/Lee that you want at the 4 and 5 AND have KG on the floor.  Or you can Keep KG at the 4 and play Scal or Billy Walker at SF and then have Sheed, Lee and Nate go nuts off the bench. Those three on our benh ensure a healthy KG and PP for the playoffs.  Maybe BBD will be here to join them, if not we're still deep.  All of a sudden your bench can defend and score:

Nate
House or TA
Scal
Sheed
Lee

You could go real crazy and try to get Nate, Lee AND Harrington.  All you have to do is add some or all of our other expiring deals; Scal, TA, House, Walker, Giddens and/or Pruitt.

I think the knicks would be all over it.  Ray Allen is still good, and they really can't committ to Nate and Lee anyway.  Ray makes over 18 Mil.  I don't think it's unreasonable to offer Nate 5-7 Mil for 3-5 years, and Lee 8-11 for 3-5 years.  If Lee and Nate's value is on the lower end then you have to try to get the Nicks to add Wilson Chandler to boost up the money.  He's a player, he's versatile, imporoving and expiring, so that we be asking a bit much.

Is it even possible, I don't know.  But I love Nate and Lee, and I believe they can be had for a pack of skittles an expiring contracts. 

[wdleehi]

Not a chance. 

1) KG can no longer play SF.
2) Celtics become to small in the backcourt with ROndo, House,and Robinson.

[WeMadeIt17]

I by any means would not mind trading some pieces from the bench to get Nate Robinson cause he could be the scorer we need dearly off the bench but Eddie and someone else would have to hit the road in order to get him. I would love to have Nate coming off the bench

[hardlyyardley]

really like the intensity that lee brings....they don't need allen except for expiring

[youcanthandlethetruth113]

Not a chance. 

1) KG can no longer play SF.
2) Celtics become to small in the backcourt with ROndo, House,and Robinson.

I'm not certain KG would agree with you about that first one, but I agree with both points.

[Fafnir]

Not a chance. 

1) KG can no longer play SF.
2) Celtics become to small in the backcourt with ROndo, House,and Robinson.

I'm not certain KG would agree with you about that first one, but I agree with both points.

I think KG feels he can guard anyone, but that doesn't mean its true. I think playing Paul at the two would be equally tough.

[Nut from Nh]

Not a chance. 

1) KG can no longer play SF.
2) Celtics become to small in the backcourt with ROndo, House,and Robinson.

Too small in the backcourt?  Dude, you just named all our pg's.

Wether or not KG can still play SF is debatable, I'm condident he can.   

[jdub1660]

What about a crazy trade (without any of our starters) with 3 teams

Boston trades Marbury to Washington for Stevenson
New York s/t Nate to Boston for s/t BBD

Then we could dangle House and Tony Allen elsewhere to get a better SF like Travis Outlaw

Rondo, NateRob
Ray, Stevenson
Pierce, Outlaw
KG, Powe, Scal
Perk, Sheed

[wdleehi]

Not a chance. 

1) KG can no longer play SF.
2) Celtics become to small in the backcourt with ROndo, House,and Robinson.

Too small in the backcourt?  Dude, you just named all our pg's.

Wether or not KG can still play SF is debatable, I'm condident he can.   

So the plan is to trade the starting SG so they can get a 2nd small SG to play reserve PG?

[Smitty77]

Jdub1660,

I love BOTH of your sign and trade ideas provided that we do sign Rasheed.  I would wait and do this after we sign Wallace.  I am sure that is probably your preferred timing as well.

Great ideas!!

Smitty77

[Smitty77]

On second thought, I don't know if we would want Stevenson.  He had a 5.91 Efficiency Rating last year and has NOT shot over 40% or really near it since the 2006/2007 season.  I had no idea that he had fallen off like that.  Does anyone know why or if he has been hurt of something??

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/deshawn_stevenson/index.html

Smitty77

[Nut from Nh]

Not a chance. 

1) KG can no longer play SF.
2) Celtics become to small in the backcourt with ROndo, House,and Robinson.

Too small in the backcourt?  Dude, you just named all our pg's.

Wether or not KG can still play SF is debatable, I'm condident he can.   

So the plan is to trade the starting SG so they can get a 2nd small SG to play reserve PG?

No Chief, a scoring pg AND David Lee.  Nate's not a sg, he's an incredibly gifted scoring pg, but there is definitley that other minor piece of the deal which is another gifted and still improving big who would instantly become the best big on the boards we have had since... um...

That is what I would be willing to trade our starting sg for.

[BballTim]

Not a chance. 

1) KG can no longer play SF.
2) Celtics become to small in the backcourt with ROndo, House,and Robinson.

Too small in the backcourt?  Dude, you just named all our pg's.

Wether or not KG can still play SF is debatable, I'm condident he can.   

So the plan is to trade the starting SG so they can get a 2nd small SG to play reserve PG?

No Chief, a scoring pg AND David Lee.  Nate's not a sg, he's an incredibly gifted scoring pg, but there is definitley that other minor piece of the deal which is another gifted and still improving big who would instantly become the best big on the boards we have had since... um...

That is what I would be willing to trade our starting sg for.

  Lee wouldn't be as good of a rebounder for the Celts as he was for the Knicks. He was literally their only rebounder. Look at how his numbers jumped after they got rid of Zach Randolph, who was getting a lot more boards than Lee was before he was traded.

[ChainSmokingLikeDino]

having watched at least 50 knicks games a year for many years (living in nyc tends to do that to a man) i can say nate robinson is being obscenely overvalued here. he is a shoot first pg who has a very small basketball iq. he can put up 25 points on a bad team but on a good team where he isn't expected, or allowed, to be a shoot first player he struggles immensely. he is not the kind of backup pg the celtics need. at all.

as for david lee, would love to have him on the celtics but he is a restricted free agent and far outside the celtics price range. his stats have been a little inflated by playing in the d'antoni system but he is indeed an excellent rebounder, clean up points kind of player. but if the knicks don't resign him what he commands on the market is far beyond what the celtics can afford to pay (and if the celtics sign 'sheed he has no place on this team anyways).

[wdleehi]

Not a chance. 

1) KG can no longer play SF.
2) Celtics become to small in the backcourt with ROndo, House,and Robinson.

Too small in the backcourt?  Dude, you just named all our pg's.

Wether or not KG can still play SF is debatable, I'm condident he can.   

So the plan is to trade the starting SG so they can get a 2nd small SG to play reserve PG?

No Chief, a scoring pg AND David Lee.  Nate's not a sg, he's an incredibly gifted scoring pg, but there is definitley that other minor piece of the deal which is another gifted and still improving big who would instantly become the best big on the boards we have had since... um...

That is what I would be willing to trade our starting sg for.

The Celtics would be adding a small SG that can win a dunk contest, but not the game.

And they would add lee, a good PF that would be a bench player on the Celtics.


They would have a giant hole at SG.

Not a good trade.