Marbury on the way out!

[rondohondo]

This move by Marbury is insane.  If I'm understanding this correctly he wanted more than league min. but, probably wouldn't have balked at 3 million a year ( he's not worth it ).  Didn't he just take a massive payout to leave NY last year for nothing.  He's that financially strapped that he would risk being on a winner where he can prove he's much better than he played last year to test the market.  

Unless there is more to this story this guy just doesn't have a clue, IMO.

I don't even see a significant drop off if Boston plays Pruitt in his spot.  At worst he can dribble the ball up the court and spot up for open 3's.  And he can't be any worse on defense. 

agreed Marbury really is INSANE, but I guess we should have known that . There was a report a few days ago saying he didn't care about money , he just wanted a shot at a ring, now he won't accept the Vet Min? Also didn't he come to Boston to play with KG again? He could have this year , but guess that doesn't matter to him . So screw off Marbury, we don't need you if it's going to be more than the Vet MIn.

[feckless]

My guess is the vet minimum is the best offer Marbury will get so that could still bring him back to Boston.

[Fafnir]

Good news.

Now we can see Eddie back at the point, in his rightful position, and stop that irritating and ineffective small backcourt.

Eddie House is NOT a PG. He is best  at SG as you saw against Orlando last year when he was able to get the pass and shoot and not have to worry about defensive pressure..

Sadly we get killed defensively and on the boards when Eddie plays the 2. I'd much rather have him be primarily a backup 1 or situational shooter.

I'm glad they didn't bother to offer an LLE contract, or any part of the MLE to Marbury.

[Fafnir]

Starbury was statistically one of the very worst players in the NBA last year, including in the playoffs.  If he thinks that his level of play earned him more than $1.3 million, then more power to him.  Good luck finding some other team to pay him to shoot like crap.

Here's a stat for you.

Out of all of the players in the league, Marbury was the only player to have been coming off an an injury, then being exiled by a team, thus not playing for a year, to come back and sign right before the deadline.

My stat > Your stats.

You didn't offer any stats, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

To illustrate what Roy is saying. Marbury played 18 minutes a game, had an eFG% of 34.2% which is awful, and a assist to turnover ratio of 1.2/1.6 or .75. That is absolutely awful.

No reason to give him more than a minimum deal.

[Birdbrain]

It wouldn't surprise me if one of better teams like the lakers gave him a bit more to keep him out of Boston in slight chance that he isn't completely done.

[SSFan V]

i dont want pruitt on this team either...he stinks

3 points

I am not sold on Pruitt either.

I honestly think the Celts have another player in mind for back up PG and politely offered a low # to Marbury.

Marbury will have a productive (for a back up) season where ever he lands.

[Fafnir]

It wouldn't surprise me if one of better teams like the lakers gave him a bit more to keep him out of Boston in slight chance that he isn't completely done.

I don't think other teams would bother to do that with a player like Marbury. What if he takes your offer, then they'd be stuck with him!

[vagrantwade]

Starbury was statistically one of the very worst players in the NBA last year, including in the playoffs.  If he thinks that his level of play earned him more than $1.3 million, then more power to him.  Good luck finding some other team to pay him to shoot like crap.

Here's a stat for you.

Out of all of the players in the league, Marbury was the only player to have been coming off an an injury, then being exiled by a team, thus not playing for a year, to come back and sign right before the deadline.

My stat > Your stats.

You didn't offer any stats, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

To illustrate what Roy is saying. Marbury played 18 minutes a game, had an eFG% of 34.2% which is awful, and a assist to turnover ratio of 1.2/1.6 or .75. That is absolutely awful.

No reason to give him more than a minimum deal.

The stat is 1. 1 the number. 1. He was the only 1. I am aware of what Roy is saying. I am saying it is completely irrelevant given the circumstances.

And chances are Celtics will issue a second offer at some point assuming Marbury doesn't sign elsewhere first.

[Fafnir]

Starbury was statistically one of the very worst players in the NBA last year, including in the playoffs.  If he thinks that his level of play earned him more than $1.3 million, then more power to him.  Good luck finding some other team to pay him to shoot like crap.

Here's a stat for you.

Out of all of the players in the league, Marbury was the only player to have been coming off an an injury, then being exiled by a team, thus not playing for a year, to come back and sign right before the deadline.

My stat > Your stats.

You didn't offer any stats, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

To illustrate what Roy is saying. Marbury played 18 minutes a game, had an eFG% of 34.2% which is awful, and a assist to turnover ratio of 1.2/1.6 or .75. That is absolutely awful.

No reason to give him more than a minimum deal.

The stat is 1. 1 the number. 1. He was the only 1. I am aware of what Roy is saying. I am saying it is completely irrelevant given the circumstances.

Perhaps you should take a look here. I understand your argument, but it is not a statistical one so you shouldn't misuse the word.

But assuming you're right that we should throw out his entire Celtic career. What makes you think he'll ever be able to get back to being an effective NBA player?

[vagrantwade]

Starbury was statistically one of the very worst players in the NBA last year, including in the playoffs.  If he thinks that his level of play earned him more than $1.3 million, then more power to him.  Good luck finding some other team to pay him to shoot like crap.

Here's a stat for you.

Out of all of the players in the league, Marbury was the only player to have been coming off an an injury, then being exiled by a team, thus not playing for a year, to come back and sign right before the deadline.

My stat > Your stats.

You didn't offer any stats, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

To illustrate what Roy is saying. Marbury played 18 minutes a game, had an eFG% of 34.2% which is awful, and a assist to turnover ratio of 1.2/1.6 or .75. That is absolutely awful.

No reason to give him more than a minimum deal.

The stat is 1. 1 the number. 1. He was the only 1. I am aware of what Roy is saying. I am saying it is completely irrelevant given the circumstances.

Perhaps you should take a look here. I understand your argument, but it is not a statistical one so you shouldn't misuse the word.

But assuming you're right that we should throw out his entire Celtic career. What makes you think he'll ever be able to get back to being an effective NBA player?

Of course it is a statistic. Take the number 1, get the number of players signed to contracts last year. Compare those two numbers as a ratio.

And why would he not get back to being an effective player? He just didn't play for a year, he didn't blow out a knee.

[Vermont Green]

I don't know all the ins and outs of the cap rules but I thought that the Celtics could offer him something like $2M without using any MLE or LLE money.  I would offer him that much.  I think last year his shooting was an aberation.  He will shoot/score better this year.

None of us know what they will do as an alternate to Marbury so I can't criticize anything yet.  They could still land a serviceable back up PG but I feel Marbury would be a fine options also.  Other teams have less flexibility to go above the minimum if I understand correctly so that is what Danny is banking on to keep the market price down.

And no, Eddie House is not a PG option.

[Fafnir]

Starbury was statistically one of the very worst players in the NBA last year, including in the playoffs.  If he thinks that his level of play earned him more than $1.3 million, then more power to him.  Good luck finding some other team to pay him to shoot like crap.

Here's a stat for you.

Out of all of the players in the league, Marbury was the only player to have been coming off an an injury, then being exiled by a team, thus not playing for a year, to come back and sign right before the deadline.

My stat > Your stats.

You didn't offer any stats, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

To illustrate what Roy is saying. Marbury played 18 minutes a game, had an eFG% of 34.2% which is awful, and a assist to turnover ratio of 1.2/1.6 or .75. That is absolutely awful.

No reason to give him more than a minimum deal.

The stat is 1. 1 the number. 1. He was the only 1. I am aware of what Roy is saying. I am saying it is completely irrelevant given the circumstances.

Perhaps you should take a look here. I understand your argument, but it is not a statistical one so you shouldn't misuse the word.

But assuming you're right that we should throw out his entire Celtic career. What makes you think he'll ever be able to get back to being an effective NBA player?

Of course it is a statistic. Take the number 1, get the number of players signed to contracts last year. Compare those two numbers as a ratio.

All I have to say to that bit of gibberish.

[Who]

Who are the other backup point guard choices?

Anthony Carter. Brevin Knight. Ronnie Price. CJ Watson. Royal Ivey. Bobby Jackson. Ty Lue.

I'd rather have Eddie House at the point guard spot than any of those guys. Especially if it means Eddie isn't at the two, and Boston can have a legitimate wing out there instead of him.

[jdpapa3]

Yea, you can't give a guy more than the minimum if you are HOPING that his game might come back. Yes, people remember the 2 good games he had in the playoffs, but he was awful for the rest of them. Couldn't shoot, couldn't even pass.

I also don't know if you can go into the season with Pruitt as your backup pg. He has to prove he even belongs in the NBA this summer and if he makes it to training camp.

I am telling you guys that Lue is one of the players that is high on the charts when you start pulling up some advanced statistics. I know Danny listens to his stats guy a lot and I bet this is one of the reasons for the Lue push. Lue was projected to shoot mid 40's for 3 pt % last year and was shooting that in Milwaukee.

[celticinorlando]

Who are the other backup point guard choices?

Anthony Carter. Brevin Knight. Ronnie Price. CJ Watson. Royal Ivey. Bobby Jackson. Ty Lue.

I'd rather have Eddie House at the point guard spot than any of those guys. Especially if it means Eddie isn't at the two, and Boston can have a legitimate wing out there instead of him.

watson is the only guy in that list i would consider...maybe price...slim pickings...