Should consider Rodney Carney

[jt21]

They should consider the former lottery pick(i think, at least mid first if not late lottery) Rodney Carney, dude is around 6-8 extremely athletic and could probably come really cheap. He would be a good backup wing player and play the Posey role. He didn't get many minutes with the Twolves and the Sixers before that, but he has the length and quickness to guard multiple positions the 2, 3, and smaller 4's, as well as the Lebrons. Idk I think they should consider him; he looked good in my opinion at least on defense whenever he came into the game for the Wolves. He could probably come pretty cheap and if they don't feel Giddens and/or walker are ready to contribute meaningful minutes, he should be at least considered. He is young, unlike Grant Hill and a decent 3 point shooter as well

John Hollinger said this about him:

rotation player who can likely be had at a bargain price since the Wolves didn't pick up the final year of his contract, making him an unrestricted free agent. Carney offers two things nearly every team is looking for: an athletic wing who can defend and a decent 3-point shooter. He made 35 percent from distance last season while taking more than half his shots from out there.

Carney doesn't have great offensive instincts, so unless he's throwing down a highlight-reel jam he's pretty much a catch-and-shoot guy. But he's a solid role player and, at 25, still has a chance to get better.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=freeagents-090701

[johnnyrondo]

They should consider the former lottery pick(i think, at least mid first if not late lottery) Rodney Carney, dude is around 6-8 extremely athletic and could probably come really cheap. He would be a good backup wing player and play the Posey role. He didn't get many minutes with the Twolves and the Sixers before that, but he has the length and quickness to guard multiple positions the 2, 3, and smaller 4's, as well as the Lebrons. Idk I think they should consider him; he looked good in my opinion at least on defense whenever he came into the game for the Wolves. He could probably come pretty cheap and if they don't feel Giddens and/or walker are ready to contribute meaningful minutes, he should be at least considered. He is young, unlike Grant Hill and a decent 3 point shooter as well

John Hollinger said this about him:

rotation player who can likely be had at a bargain price since the Wolves didn't pick up the final year of his contract, making him an unrestricted free agent. Carney offers two things nearly every team is looking for: an athletic wing who can defend and a decent 3-point shooter. He made 35 percent from distance last season while taking more than half his shots from out there.

Carney doesn't have great offensive instincts, so unless he's throwing down a highlight-reel jam he's pretty much a catch-and-shoot guy. But he's a solid role player and, at 25, still has a chance to get better.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=freeagents-090701

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[P2]

I would love to have him as a backup to Pierce, more than Grant Hill and Anthony Parker.

[Who]

Good fourth wing in the rotation.

I'm uncomfortable depending on Carney for more than that, still too unreliable.

[SCBirdman]

Good fourth wing in the rotation.

I'm uncomfortable depending on Carney for more than that, still too unreliable.

So, basically if he is the 4th wing, he would be replacing Billy Walker? I prefer Walker over Carney.

I also prefer Hill, Barnes, Moon, and Parker over Carney.

Looks like Carney is NOT a good fit after all.

[Michael Anthony]

The 25 year old small forward out of Memphis is currently an unrestricted free agent. Known for his tremendous athletiscm, he has developped into a competent three point shooter (35% without a competent pointguard setting him up) and defender (-6 on/off the court) during the last three seasons.

Anthony Parker has more veteran savy, and is a slightly better shooter, but he is 10 years older and nearing the end of his career. Is Rodney Carney a better bet for the LLE?

[Who]

Good fourth wing in the rotation.

I'm uncomfortable depending on Carney for more than that, still too unreliable.

So, basically if he is the 4th wing, he would be replacing Billy Walker? I prefer Walker over Carney.

I want Bill Walker to be the fifth wing next season. He didn't show enough in his rookie season to get marked down for regular minutes.

Rodney Carney is a proven above average NBA defender. He's a decent enough jump shooter to keep teams somewhat honest. That could be useful for the Celtics.

[Roy Hobbs]

I loved Carney coming out of school, but it concerns me that he hasn't been able to earn consistent playing time on terrible teams.  Unfortunately, he seems to be a bench player, through and through.

As mentioned above, he'd be an okay player as the fourth wing.  I'd prefer a more consistent defender, but Carney could fill a role (he's certainly a good scorer).  However, I wouldn't want to give him more than the minimum.

[Michael Anthony]

He played behind the young face of the franchise in Philly (Igguodala) and behind the best player in Minny (Miller).

When he finally got some burn last season - 18 games over 24 minutes, 12 in the last two months - he averaged 14.4 points in 29.9 minutes per game.

Coming from a solid defender that takes more than half his shots from behind the arc, that is very good production. Production we could use on our bench behind Allen and Pierce.

[thebirdman]

I didn`t like Carney out of college but I was really impressed with his game last season. I saw a few Minny games and he looked very solid. Long, shot the three extremely well, I wouldn`t mind having him on this team.

The only problem is that he doesn`t have enough experience and he isn`t consistent enough yet..

[Roy Hobbs]

He played behind the young face of the franchise in Philly (Igguodala) and behind the best player in Minny (Miller).

Mike Miller was Minnesota's best player?  He averaged less than 10 points per game as a starter.

Also Iggy is more of a 2 than a 3, and that was especially true earlier in his career.  Carney had to beat out Willie Green.

Carney just hasn't been that great.  He's a bench player, and has only shown that he can put up okay numbers after a team has gone into tank mode.  He's got a great skill set, but for whatever reason can't but it together like he should.  Essentially, he's a slightly better Gerald Green.

[Fan from VT]

i'd definitely take him if it's a good contract, i.e. the minimum or the LLE if other options dry up.

[winsomme]

He played behind the young face of the franchise in Philly (Igguodala) and behind the best player in Minny (Miller).

Mike Miller was Minnesota's best player?  He averaged less than 10 points per game as a starter.

Also Iggy is more of a 2 than a 3, and that was especially true earlier in his career.  Carney had to beat out Willie Green.

Carney just hasn't been that great.  He's a bench player, and has only shown that he can put up okay numbers after a team has gone into tank mode.  He's got a great skill set, but for whatever reason can't but it together like he should.  Essentially, he's a slightly better Gerald Green.

I followed him pretty closely last season and IMO he has finally put his game together. definitely big steps ahead of Gerald.

the problem with him on the Cs is that he is another SG that can play SF if necessary. I think we need a SF who can play PF, and he seems a little too slight for that.

now if we were going to replace JR or TA (sign and trade?) on the roster with him, I would definitely be into it because I think given PT this could be a big season for Carney.

[Michael Anthony]

He played behind the young face of the franchise in Philly (Igguodala) and behind the best player in Minny (Miller).

Mike Miller was Minnesota's best player?  He averaged less than 10 points per game as a starter.

Also Iggy is more of a 2 than a 3, and that was especially true earlier in his career.  Carney had to beat out Willie Green.

Carney just hasn't been that great.  He's a bench player, and has only shown that he can put up okay numbers after a team has gone into tank mode.  He's got a great skill set, but for whatever reason can't but it together like he should.  Essentially, he's a slightly better Gerald Green.

Miller was underutilizaed - and not as good as Jefferson - but he has averaged in the mid-teens scoring and 5ish rebounds and assits over his career.

Carney is not the savior, but I am arguing that he might have more to offer than Anthony Parker as the first wing off the bench.

The Gerald Green comment is a low blow, and you know it. They can both jump and shoot, but Green cannot defend anybody, and does not know a thing about the game. While I cannot comment on Carney's BBIQ, the guy has put up decent on/off court splits on the defensive end.

[winsomme]

He played behind the young face of the franchise in Philly (Igguodala) and behind the best player in Minny (Miller).

Mike Miller was Minnesota's best player?  He averaged less than 10 points per game as a starter.

Also Iggy is more of a 2 than a 3, and that was especially true earlier in his career.  Carney had to beat out Willie Green.

Carney just hasn't been that great.  He's a bench player, and has only shown that he can put up okay numbers after a team has gone into tank mode.  He's got a great skill set, but for whatever reason can't but it together like he should.  Essentially, he's a slightly better Gerald Green.

Miller was underutilizaed - and not as good as Jefferson - but he has averaged in the mid-teens scoring and 5ish rebounds and assits over his career.

Carney is not the savior, but I am arguing that he might have more to offer than Anthony Parker as the first wing off the bench.

The Gerald Green comment is a low blow, and you know it. They can both jump and shoot, but Green cannot defend anybody, and does not know a thing about the game. While I cannot comment on Carney's BBIQ, the guy has put up decent on/off court splits on the defensive end.

I agree that he is a better addition than Parker although Carney will command quite a bit more than Parker. not sure where we get the money to sign him if the MLE goes to Sheed.