Forget Sheed, MLE for Gortat

[KungPoweChicken]

I am of the opinion that whoever signs Gortat with the MLE will be in for a huge disappointment. The guy has become ridiculously overrated.

Seriously? Personnally, I felt that Orlando was much better when Gortat was on the floor, replacing Howard, especially in the series against us.

I agree. I thought Gortat did have moments where he was playing well, and the Magic did excel at times with him in the lineup. But, for the most part, I believe he was playing over his head. And, in my opinion, for as many moments where he looked good, he had just as many where he looked really bad. He is a very, very limited player, mostly on offense. Defensively, he is solid. I will admit that. But every year there is a big man free agent, who gets over hyped, and I think this year's is Gortat. That's all I'm saying. I guess only time will tell.

[celticmaestro]

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[Change]

Gortat is freaking amazing. Houston will be lucky to have him. C's can't afford a bidding war which we might lose. And besides Gortat still has a lot of learning to do. Sheed, KG, and Perk will be the best frontcourt in the nba. Sheed gives us everything we missed last season.

[xmuscularghandix]

I like him, but he doesn't spread the floor like Sheed.

agreed.

[Drucci]

I am of the opinion that whoever signs Gortat with the MLE will be in for a huge disappointment. The guy has become ridiculously overrated.

Seriously? Personnally, I felt that Orlando was much better when Gortat was on the floor, replacing Howard, especially in the series against us.

I agree. I thought Gortat did have moments where he was playing well, and the Magic did excel at times with him in the lineup. But, for the most part, I believe he was playing over his head. And, in my opinion, for as many moments where he looked good, he had just as many where he looked really bad. He is a very, very limited player, mostly on offense. Defensively, he is solid. I will admit that. But every year there is a big man free agent, who gets over hyped, and I think this year's is Gortat. That's all I'm saying. I guess only time will tell.

Yeah, I guess we'll see what happens with Gortat's production next year, probably in Houston. I thought he was consistent during the playoffs so I hadn't the impression that he played over his mind but I didn't watch him play a lot during the regular season and before the Celtics series so I don't know much.

There is a big chance he gets overpaid though, you're right, but I think he deserves the MLE for about 4 million.

[Casperian]

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[Vermont Green]

I will admit that I don't understand the infactuation with Rasheed on this Board and by Danny/KG.  But that said, I don't the Gortat is worth the full MLE.

And another thing, I don't get why we would need Sheed to "spread the floor".  The first unit has Pierce and Allen.  The second unit will have Eddie and Scal, why exactly do we need our PF/C to spread the floor?  I want someone who plays tough defense and rebounds.  As I said, I don't think Gortat is the answer but not because he can't spread the floor.

Wallace to Cle makes the most sense.  They have Shaq and Ilgauskas (spelling?) so they can use Wallace's skills more.

[RayRay4MVP]

I will admit that I don't understand the infactuation with Rasheed on this Board and by Danny/KG.  But that said, I don't the Gortat is worth the full MLE.

And another thing, I don't get why we would need Sheed to "spread the floor".  The first unit has Pierce and Allen.  The second unit will have Eddie and Scal, why exactly do we need our PF/C to spread the floor?  I want someone who plays tough defense and rebounds.  As I said, I don't think Gortat is the answer but not because he can't spread the floor.

Wallace to Cle makes the most sense.  They have Shaq and Ilgulkis (spelling?) so they can use Wallace's skills more.

LOL!. It's Ilgauskas. 

[Vermont Green]

I will admit that I don't understand the infactuation with Rasheed on this Board and by Danny/KG.  But that said, I don't the Gortat is worth the full MLE.

And another thing, I don't get why we would need Sheed to "spread the floor".  The first unit has Pierce and Allen.  The second unit will have Eddie and Scal, why exactly do we need our PF/C to spread the floor?  I want someone who plays tough defense and rebounds.  As I said, I don't think Gortat is the answer but not because he can't spread the floor.

Wallace to Cle makes the most sense.  They have Shaq and Ilgulkis (spelling?) so they can use Wallace's skills more.

LOL!. It's Ilgauskas. 

I guess I should have bought a vowel...

(Or looked it up)

[RayRay4MVP]

I will admit that I don't understand the infactuation with Rasheed on this Board and by Danny/KG.  But that said, I don't the Gortat is worth the full MLE.

And another thing, I don't get why we would need Sheed to "spread the floor".  The first unit has Pierce and Allen.  The second unit will have Eddie and Scal, why exactly do we need our PF/C to spread the floor?  I want someone who plays tough defense and rebounds.  As I said, I don't think Gortat is the answer but not because he can't spread the floor.

Wallace to Cle makes the most sense.  They have Shaq and Ilgulkis (spelling?) so they can use Wallace's skills more.

LOL!. It's Ilgauskas. 

I guess I should have bought a vowel...

(Or looked it up)

Lol that is probably better then I could do spelling without looking at his name.

[greg_kite]

Gortat could be a solid starting center, but for the C's they need a proven guy like Wallace.  The C's are looking at this year and next year.  Sheed will be a better all around player for those two years (probably).

Check out Gortat's stats.  Less than 5 and 5.  At least when Mark Blount fooled everyone into thinking he was good he was putting up numbers!  Gortat hasn't done anything.  He'll be good for a team like Min or Hou where he can start, but don't expect him to change the team.

What I like about Sheed is that he gives us a different look at the 5 than Perk.  Gortat is a poor man's Perk.  If we need some scoring and shooting I'd rather have Sheed in at the 5.  It's all about matchups in the playoffs and I don't see Gortat causing any mismatches.  Just being an overpriced situational plug (if he's a bench player).

[vjcsmoke]

I will admit that I don't understand the infactuation with Rasheed on this Board and by Danny/KG.  But that said, I don't the Gortat is worth the full MLE.

And another thing, I don't get why we would need Sheed to "spread the floor".  The first unit has Pierce and Allen.  The second unit will have Eddie and Scal, why exactly do we need our PF/C to spread the floor?  I want someone who plays tough defense and rebounds.  As I said, I don't think Gortat is the answer but not because he can't spread the floor.

 to Cle makes the most sense.  They have Shaq and Ilgauskas (spelling?) so they can use 's skills more.

Gortat is a limited offensive player.  Sheed has scoring tools that Gortat just doesn't.  Sheed is an older player true, but his experience and savvy will be a GOOD thing in the playoffs.  I'm not worried about him being too old because he won't be asked to play starter minutes, more like 25-30.  Basically he's going to be like PJ Brown but with a better stroke and a 3 point shot.

Now do you really need to ask why the Celtics need the ability to spread the floor?  Rondo has many games where he looks lost on offense and can't or just won't take the 15-18 foot open jumpshot.  Perkins is strictly a near the basket scorer.  When they are sagging off Rondo and doubling on Pierce and/or Allen you need another shooter out there.  

And NO, KG should not be playing 40 mpg next season.  Not if we want him to last all the way to the playoffs.  And when Allen is not hot, and there are definitely days where he isn't, you need someone else to pick up the scoring slack.  Sheed can do that, and he can play PF or C.  Gortat is strictly a backup C.

Gortat might turn out to be a solid player but there is no reason to get infatuated with him.  He's not a better overall player than Rasheed Wallace.  And I don't see him as the next Biedriens.  The reason that the Rockets are so hot to sign Gortat is that Yao Ming's career could be OVER.  It's that simple.  

[Jon]

Gortat could be a solid starting center, but for the C's they need a proven guy like Wallace.  The C's are looking at this year and next year.  Sheed will be a better all around player for those two years (probably).

Check out Gortat's stats.  Less than 5 and 5.  At least when Mark Blount fooled everyone into thinking he was good he was putting up numbers!  Gortat hasn't done anything.  He'll be good for a team like Min or Hou where he can start, but don't expect him to change the team.

What I like about Sheed is that he gives us a different look at the 5 than Perk.  Gortat is a poor man's Perk.  If we need some scoring and shooting I'd rather have Sheed in at the 5.  It's all about matchups in the playoffs and I don't see Gortat causing any mismatches.  Just being an overpriced situational plug (if he's a bench player).

I agree, I liked what I saw from him in limited time against the C's, but he was hardly showing that he's the next Hakeem.  Baby played much better than him, and I don't think he's worth MLE dollars.  Granted, Gortat is 7 feet tall, but that also gets scrubs overpaid (not saying he's a scrubbed).  

I'd rather go with Wallace.  Perkins is our long term solution at center, so there's no real reason to start looking for a center of the future.  Might as well go with the sure thing, win a couple titles, and worry about youth at the 2-4 spot.  

[pearljammer10]

Gortat? Over Sheed?

That almost made me laugh. Then i started to cry.

[cdif911]

here's what I love about Sheed over a Gortat or a Zaza

you bring in Sheed, and obviously resign (pronounced ree sigh n (not ree zine)) Baby and now any 2 of our 4 big men can be on the court at the same time - and if you want to go super big, KG can play the 3 defensively...

KG and Perk
KG and Sheed
Baby and Perk
Baby and Sheed
Baby and KG
Sheed and Perk

it all works in its own way - I can sorta see why the writing may have been on the wall for Powe; there will be no minutes for a 5th big