Is there any excuse for the Celtics not to resign BBD?

[biggs]

I'm behind Danny and I assume he'll be resigned.

Perkins/Wallace
KG/BBD

Best front line in league by far.

I agree that we retain Baby for a reasonable deal. 

I think that we all valued Baby quite a bit when KG went down, and especially in the playoffs, but I think our affection for own players may have boosted our perception of Baby's value on the open market.(not uncommon on these boards-overvaluing our youth)

With teams looking to shed salary rather than add MLE $ for non proven veterans,(to multi-year deals as well) I just don't see Baby's value being as high as we/he may think he's worth on the open market.

Also as others have said there are better options out there for teams that really have room to spend.

The only way I could see Baby leaving is if a GM goes into panic mode and throws some ridiculous deal at him last minute.

[Mr October]

If he signs somewhere for the MLE... it looks like its time to say good bye. He's good, but he's not that good. To me MLE means you are a starter or at least a 6th man.

Baby has talent... but he is short, overweight (will he balloon after signing a juicy extension?), and a poor rebounder. Those are too many flaws to to throw $30+ million at.

[Birdbrain]

What's the harm in overpaying Baby? Seriously, we might've to pay the luxury tax this year (though few would have problems with that) and that's about it. Next few years we're in good financial situations but not good enough to be under the cap anyways, so where's the harm? Whatever he's offered we should match in my opinion, even if he's not worth it or if it's overpaying him. Having his depth and young talent as an asset will be more valuable to us.

people said that about the gross overpaying of Scalabrine and last year, Scalabrine's contract may have prevented a better free agent signing.

Over paying a player should never be an option for a well run franchise.  When you over pay, no good can come from it.

Scals contract never hindered boston in signing FA's.  Just for clarification.  I'm not saying sign BBD to some crazy amount but, he deserves 4 million IMO.  I'll deal with losing him if he gets 6 million from another team.

[BBS]

Found this on Celtics.com.

Ainge "Hopeful" on Baby Return
Glen Davis is just dipping his feet into the free agent pool to see how the water feels, and while he wasn't in Waltham to talk about his future, Ainge characterized his discussions with Davis' representation as "positive", although he noted that official negotiations haven't begun.

"Glen will be out there testing the market and seeing what the market dictates," Ainge said. "There may be a team that gives him something that he's excited about today or tomorrow. But we're hopeful that he'll be a part of our team this year."

As for what the market looks like in the early stages of free agency, Ainge pointed to the fact that several players who could have opted out of their contract chose not to do so, with Celtics guard Eddie House being the most relevant example. While House certainly could have drawn interest elsewhere, he opted to exercise his option on the final year of his deal with the Celtics.

"It's great to have Eddie back. He's been a big part of our success the last two years. Shooting is at a premium in this league," Ainge said. "He's a tough guy to replace, and in any situation, Game 7, on the road, in Cleveland, KG would throw the ball to Eddie. Paul would throw the ball to Eddie. They trust in Eddie's shooting and that's what he does. He's a great shooter."

[biggs]

Found this on Celtics.com.


"It's great to have Eddie back. He's been a big part of our success the last two years. Shooting is at a premium in this league," Ainge said. "He's a tough guy to replace, and in any situation, Game 7, on the road, in Cleveland, KG would throw the ball to Eddie. Paul would throw the ball to Eddie. They trust in Eddie's shooting and that's what he does. He's a great shooter."

Wow! Really positive things said about House from Danny there.  Maybe if he was that nice to Rondo, we would have beaten Orlando 

[QuinielaBox]

Edgar - Where is Carlos Boozer in those pictures?
 

We simply need the best 3rd big man available - Take your choice of Sheed or Dyess.

2010 is a must win year for Boston..... No questions asked.

BBD is about on Drew Gooden's level best case upside.

[DannyAinge]

I rather have Shawn Marion than BIG BABY


I think we have to look at how much Marion is willing to take on a title contender.


Marion can to be the guy that could really put us in a great position.
he would be our defensive stopper.He can guard against 4 positions and shoot the corner 3 as well as give us size and quickness.

[Moranis]

What's the harm in overpaying Baby? Seriously, we might've to pay the luxury tax this year (though few would have problems with that) and that's about it. Next few years we're in good financial situations but not good enough to be under the cap anyways, so where's the harm? Whatever he's offered we should match in my opinion, even if he's not worth it or if it's overpaying him. Having his depth and young talent as an asset will be more valuable to us.

people said that about the gross overpaying of Scalabrine and last year, Scalabrine's contract may have prevented a better free agent signing.

Over paying a player should never be an option for a well run franchise.  When you over pay, no good can come from it.

Scals contract never hindered boston in signing FA's.  Just for clarification.  I'm not saying sign BBD to some crazy amount but, he deserves 4 million IMO.  I'll deal with losing him if he gets 6 million from another team.

are you sure?  I remember rumblings that the C's didn't want to go into luxury tax range and Scal's contract was a contributor to that.

[housecall]

G.Tangway was on weei about 1/2hour ago talking to Holley about Sheed and BBD...Gary claims he spoke with Ainge today and Ainge is interesting in Sheed but not sure yet if Sheed is as interested in coming to Boston yet.He said KG will be asked to use his influences with Sheed as much as possible.Also,Gary said there will be some interesting news tonight about BBD on "Sports Tonight" this evening.Maybe Gary is just baiting people to watch his show tonight,but i usually catch it anyway when i can.  

[QuinielaBox]

I rather have Shawn Marion than BIG BABY


I think we have to look at how much Marion is willing to take on a title contender.


Marion can to be the guy that could really put us in a great position.
he would be our defensive stopper.He can guard against 4 positions and shoot the corner 3 as well as give us size and quickness.

Marion would be a heckuva an acquisition and there has been little talk of him this FA season. Can we get both McDyess/Sheed AND Marion this offseason? Man that would be sweet.

[Fafnir]

I rather have Shawn Marion than BIG BABY


I think we have to look at how much Marion is willing to take on a title contender.


Marion can to be the guy that could really put us in a great position.
he would be our defensive stopper.He can guard against 4 positions and shoot the corner 3 as well as give us size and quickness.

Marion would be a heckuva an acquisition and there has been little talk of him this FA season. Can we get both McDyess/Sheed AND Marion this offseason? Man that would be sweet.

Only if he did a sign and trade for Marion at higher than MLE wages.

[DannyAinge]

I rather have Shawn Marion than BIG BABY


I think we have to look at how much Marion is willing to take on a title contender.


Marion can to be the guy that could really put us in a great position.
he would be our defensive stopper.He can guard against 4 positions and shoot the corner 3 as well as give us size and quickness.

Marion would be a heckuva an acquisition and there has been little talk of him this FA season. Can we get both McDyess/Sheed AND Marion this offseason? Man that would be sweet.

Only if he did a sign and trade for Marion at higher than MLE wages.

are you sure because I remember I read an article that he would be willing to take the vet minimum for a title contender.

Although I think to sign Marion to the vet minimum is to good to be true

[Fafnir]

I rather have Shawn Marion than BIG BABY


I think we have to look at how much Marion is willing to take on a title contender.


Marion can to be the guy that could really put us in a great position.
he would be our defensive stopper.He can guard against 4 positions and shoot the corner 3 as well as give us size and quickness.

Marion would be a heckuva an acquisition and there has been little talk of him this FA season. Can we get both McDyess/Sheed AND Marion this offseason? Man that would be sweet.

Only if he did a sign and trade for Marion at higher than MLE wages.

are you sure because I remember I read an article that he would be willing to take the vet minimum for a title contender.

Although I think to sign Marion to the vet minimum is to good to be true

That article was sketchy from what I recall. I haven't found a direct quote about that anywhere else.

[DannyAinge]

I rather have Shawn Marion than BIG BABY


I think we have to look at how much Marion is willing to take on a title contender.


Marion can to be the guy that could really put us in a great position.
he would be our defensive stopper.He can guard against 4 positions and shoot the corner 3 as well as give us size and quickness.

Marion would be a heckuva an acquisition and there has been little talk of him this FA season. Can we get both McDyess/Sheed AND Marion this offseason? Man that would be sweet.

Only if he did a sign and trade for Marion at higher than MLE wages.

are you sure because I remember I read an article that he would be willing to take the vet minimum for a title contender.

Although I think to sign Marion to the vet minimum is to good to be true

That article was sketchy from what I recall. I haven't found a direct quote about that anywhere else.

yeah it seemed it did not have good sources to me.

but if we sign sheed AND marion I would have a heart attack

[Edgar]

Rondo  Marbury   Pruitt
Allen  House     Giddens
Pierce Marion    Walker
KG     Sheed     Powe
Perk       a burrito.