Is there any excuse for the Celtics not to resign BBD?

[Rondo2287]

As I understand it, the Celts can resign him for as much as anybody else is offering as long as they are willing to spend the money.  If these other offers are reasonable, is there any excuse for the Celtics, who in recent reports are, "willing to do whatever it takes to win,"  not to resign this piece to the puzzle?

[Fafnir]

As I understand it, the Celts can resign him for as much as anybody else is offering as long as they are willing to spend the money.  If these other offers are reasonable, is there any excuse for the Celtics, who in recent reports are, "willing to do whatever it takes to win,"  not to resign this piece to the puzzle?

Sure there is a great excuse, we want to win. BBD played hard and I love his game. But he's an undersized PF who can't rebound and can't block shots.

If we can sign Rasheed and one other legit NBA big with the money that we'd spend on BBD. Well then you have to let go.

If money wasn't an issue I agree you sign him, but there is a budget that Danny has to work with. I'd rather have a veteran PF who rebounds than Davis if it comes down to it.

[rondohondo]

As I understand it, the Celts can resign him for as much as anybody else is offering as long as they are willing to spend the money.  If these other offers are reasonable, is there any excuse for the Celtics, who in recent reports are, "willing to do whatever it takes to win,"  not to resign this piece to the puzzle?

Well if they can sign Rasheed then there is good reason not to resign BBD. Wallace can play both the PF and Center positions so that would mean BBD wouldn't get any playing time. Wallace would likely play 25-30 Mins backing up Perk and Kg. Plus he is much bigger and a much better defender. So there would be no reason to sign BBD to anything near the MLE , which in reality would cost the Celtics 10 MIL+ because of the luxury tax situation.

[Prof. Clutch]

yes, I believe there is a legitimate excuse.  I think they shouldn't resign him if it seems that there is an abundance of players that the celtics feel they have a shot at bringing to Boston that would fit the team better than Davis.  I really liked what Davis has done for us and would love to see him continue to develop on the Celts, but if there is a chance that better players are out there that we can have, he takes up one more roster spot that we could give to someone else.  That to me is the only reason not to do it.  That, or the chance that someone overpays him.

[Rondo2287]

So am I wrong when I thought that because of his status, we can go over the cap to sign him?

[Donoghus]

So am I wrong when I thought that because of his status, we can go over the cap to sign him?

He has Early Bird Rights.

[Roy Hobbs]

So am I wrong when I thought that because of his status, we can go over the cap to sign him?

We can go over the cap, and can match any contract he's given.  However, the team is probably operating under an internal budget.  If they spend, say, $5.5 million per year resigning BBD, that costs the team $11 million under the luxury tax.  That's a lot of money, even for our extremely rich owners.

As others said above, since there isn't unlimited money available, the team needs to make tough decisions.  If BBD prices himself out of our range, he's gone (as Doc alluded to earlier in the off-season.)

[CoachBo]

As I understand it, the Celts can resign him for as much as anybody else is offering as long as they are willing to spend the money.  If these other offers are reasonable, is there any excuse for the Celtics, who in recent reports are, "willing to do whatever it takes to win,"  not to resign this piece to the puzzle?

Sure there is a great excuse, we want to win. BBD played hard and I love his game. But he's an undersized PF who can't rebound and can't block shots.

If we can sign Rasheed and one other legit NBA big with the money that we'd spend on BBD. Well then you have to let go.

If money wasn't an issue I agree you sign him, but there is a budget that Danny has to work with. I'd rather have a veteran PF who rebounds than Davis if it comes down to it.

And can't finish at the rim.

I have no interest in Davis at the MLE. If someone wants to get close to that, they can have him.

[Donoghus]

As I understand it, the Celts can resign him for as much as anybody else is offering as long as they are willing to spend the money.  If these other offers are reasonable, is there any excuse for the Celtics, who in recent reports are, "willing to do whatever it takes to win,"  not to resign this piece to the puzzle?

Sure there is a great excuse, we want to win. BBD played hard and I love his game. But he's an undersized PF who can't rebound and can't block shots.

If we can sign Rasheed and one other legit NBA big with the money that we'd spend on BBD. Well then you have to let go.

If money wasn't an issue I agree you sign him, but there is a budget that Danny has to work with. I'd rather have a veteran PF who rebounds than Davis if it comes down to it.

And can't finish at the rim.

I have no interest in Davis at the MLE. If someone wants to get close to that, they can have him.

Thats my mindset also.  I like the kid but not at $5.6 million/year.

[Who]

I think Danny's cut off point will be around $3-3.5 million per annum on a multi-year contract.

[BudweiserCeltic]

If it's for one or two years, it would be quite a mistake if we don't match for a full MLE type offer. This year he simply would become another great expiring asset, and we're in a good position financially next year... hell even for 3 years I might consider it.

Sometimes you simply need bad contracts to be able to make moves in this league, I think Baby is a bad contract we can easily afford and risk having.

[wdleehi]

Davis getting close to the MLE is a contract that can kill the Celtics budget.  


And he is just not worth that much to the Celtics if KG and Perk are healthy and the Celtics sign a player like Wallace.


Then again, if they end up with a play like Oberto, Davis might be worth that.

[Prof. Clutch]

A good comparison might be to look at Perk's contract.  Now Perk did take a "hometown discount," but do you think that Perk and Baby should be making about the same amount of money.  I don't...

[ssspence]

If it's for one or two years, it would be quite a mistake if we don't match for a full MLE type offer. This year he simply would become another great expiring asset, and we're in a good position financially next year... hell even for 3 years I might consider it.

Sometimes you simply need bad contracts to be able to make moves in this league, I think Baby is a bad contract we can easily afford and risk having.

Why would a team offer him the full or almost full MLE for one or two years? of course the Cs would match -- they're in a win now situation.

[Casperian]

A good comparison might be to look at Perk's contract.  Now Perk did take a "hometown discount," but do you think that Perk and Baby should be making about the same amount of money.  I don't...

Second-year Davis is a better player than third-year Perk.