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Re: Not signing Leon Powe
« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2009, 10:50:45 AM »

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He will be a 4th or 5th forward at best.  Not the ideal way to showcase yourself.

Re: Not signing Leon Powe
« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2009, 10:52:43 AM »

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I understand the decision. I can defend the decision as a businessman, and let's be real here, the Celtics are a business. I even think it's the right decision.

That doesn't mean I have to like it.

Call me sentimental. Call me naive. Call me stupid, but I think Leon Powe has earned the right to rehab for this team under a two year, non guaranteed contract and is more deserving of being on next year's roster than Lester Hudson, Gabe Pruitt, JR Giddens, Bill Walker or Tony Allen.

He's a good player and an even better human being. Make room for him Danny and do the right thing.

Re: Not signing Leon Powe
« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2009, 11:21:04 AM »

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Horrible move by Danny.  This was about saving money pure and simple.  It would not have affected our MLE or pursuit of other FA.  It only would have affected out luxury tax situation.

Agents do not forget things like this.  Players talk to each other and don't forget things like this.  This will only add one more reason why a free agent will not come to Boston in the future.

is leon powe entitled to some scholarship program we are unaware of?

I love the kid, i hope with all my heart he comes back at 100% at christmas, plays like gang busters off the bench, and gets a big deal next year.

But the boston celtics, as me and other posters have said, are not in the charity business. They are not required to make horrible business decisions and give an injury prone bench tweener 600,000 dollars at the cost of 1.6 to themselves to make you feel good.

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Re: Not signing Leon Powe
« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2009, 11:24:03 AM »

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Horrible move by Danny.  This was about saving money pure and simple.  It would not have affected our MLE or pursuit of other FA.  It only would have affected out luxury tax situation.

Agents do not forget things like this.  Players talk to each other and don't forget things like this.  This will only add one more reason why a free agent will not come to Boston in the future.

is leon powe entitled to some scholarship program we are unaware of?

I love the kid, i hope with all my heart he comes back at 100% at christmas, plays like gang busters off the bench, and gets a big deal next year.

But the boston celtics, as me and other posters have said, are not in the charity business. They are not required to make horrible business decisions and give an injury prone bench tweener 600,000 dollars at the cost of 1.6 to themselves to make you feel good.


Thanks for saying it all before I did.  I did not want to sound harsh and I would have.

I love Leon, but come on.  We have to watch out for the team first.

Re: Not signing Leon Powe
« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2009, 12:41:26 PM »

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Powe will not resign here for the minimum.  Why would he?  He needs to showcase himself for his next contract, and he will only be able to do that somewhere where he can get more playing time.  This guy is fighting for his career now.

I agree.  Why would Powe want to resign with the Celtics now?  As far as I can tell, the Celtics aren't the best team for Leon, from a business standpoint. If Leon can't sign with any other team, then he should consider the Celtics as a last resort. Put yourself in Leon's shoes, why would you resign with a team whose management just basically showed you the door?  Do you think this same management would have your back and have your best interests at heart? 

Re: Not signing Leon Powe
« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2009, 12:44:04 PM »

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this is from celtics.com about POWE.

Powe's Progress
As for Leon Powe, who's an unrestricted free agent, Ainge said that the C's would be keeping tabs on his progress as he rehabilitates his left knee from the ACL/meniscus injury he suffered in Game 2 against the Bulls. Powe just went home to California to continue his rehab but is no longer under contract with the Celtics.

With a long rehab ahead of Powe, the Celtics aren't breaking ties with him, but there's a lot of uncertainty about when he would be ready to contribute again. When that time comes, he'll be free to sign with any team he wants.

"We know that Leon is not going to be available to play until late in the season, possibly," Ainge said.



Re: Not signing Leon Powe
« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2009, 12:56:00 PM »

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Powe will not resign here for the minimum.  Why would he?  He needs to showcase himself for his next contract, and he will only be able to do that somewhere where he can get more playing time.  This guy is fighting for his career now.

I agree.  Why would Powe want to resign with the Celtics now?  As far as I can tell, the Celtics aren't the best team for Leon, from a business standpoint. If Leon can't sign with any other team, then he should consider the Celtics as a last resort. Put yourself in Leon's shoes, why would you resign with a team whose management just basically showed you the door?  Do you think this same management would have your back and have your best interests at heart? 

what team do you think is going to give a bench tweener with a long history of knee injuries significantly more playing time and money than he could get here when he won't even be stepping onto the court until Christmas at the very earliest?

the overvaluing of our own players on this site is ridiculous at times. Teams are not going to be lining up to pay leon more or promise more playing time.
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Re: Not signing Leon Powe
« Reply #37 on: July 01, 2009, 01:05:02 PM »

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Powe will not resign here for the minimum.  Why would he?  He needs to showcase himself for his next contract, and he will only be able to do that somewhere where he can get more playing time.  This guy is fighting for his career now.

I agree.  Why would Powe want to resign with the Celtics now?  As far as I can tell, the Celtics aren't the best team for Leon, from a business standpoint. If Leon can't sign with any other team, then he should consider the Celtics as a last resort. Put yourself in Leon's shoes, why would you resign with a team whose management just basically showed you the door?  Do you think this same management would have your back and have your best interests at heart? 

what team do you think is going to give a bench tweener with a long history of knee injuries significantly more playing time and money than he could get here when he won't even be stepping onto the court until Christmas at the very earliest?

the overvaluing of our own players on this site is ridiculous at times. Teams are not going to be lining up to pay leon more or promise more playing time.


I'm not saying any teams are lining up for Powe at this time. But if he heals and is able to play, the Celtics would be the last team I would personally consider, that's all.  You know, Crownsy, it's just a business decision...nothing personal against the Celtics.

Re: Not signing Leon Powe
« Reply #38 on: July 01, 2009, 01:10:27 PM »

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Powe will not resign here for the minimum.  Why would he?  He needs to showcase himself for his next contract, and he will only be able to do that somewhere where he can get more playing time.  This guy is fighting for his career now.

I agree.  Why would Powe want to resign with the Celtics now?  As far as I can tell, the Celtics aren't the best team for Leon, from a business standpoint. If Leon can't sign with any other team, then he should consider the Celtics as a last resort. Put yourself in Leon's shoes, why would you resign with a team whose management just basically showed you the door?  Do you think this same management would have your back and have your best interests at heart? 

what team do you think is going to give a bench tweener with a long history of knee injuries significantly more playing time and money than he could get here when he won't even be stepping onto the court until Christmas at the very earliest?

the overvaluing of our own players on this site is ridiculous at times. Teams are not going to be lining up to pay leon more or promise more playing time.


I'm not saying any teams are lining up for Powe at this time. But if he heals and is able to play, the Celtics would be the last team I would personally consider, that's all.  You know, Crownsy, it's just a business decision...nothing personal against the Celtics.
Sure no reason for him not to look to other opportunities.

Though I'm not sure he'll hate the Celtics as much as you seem to for not giving him free money to rehab.

Re: Not signing Leon Powe
« Reply #39 on: July 01, 2009, 01:20:42 PM »

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Powe will not resign here for the minimum.  Why would he?  He needs to showcase himself for his next contract, and he will only be able to do that somewhere where he can get more playing time.  This guy is fighting for his career now.

I agree.  Why would Powe want to resign with the Celtics now?  As far as I can tell, the Celtics aren't the best team for Leon, from a business standpoint. If Leon can't sign with any other team, then he should consider the Celtics as a last resort. Put yourself in Leon's shoes, why would you resign with a team whose management just basically showed you the door?  Do you think this same management would have your back and have your best interests at heart? 

what team do you think is going to give a bench tweener with a long history of knee injuries significantly more playing time and money than he could get here when he won't even be stepping onto the court until Christmas at the very earliest?

the overvaluing of our own players on this site is ridiculous at times. Teams are not going to be lining up to pay leon more or promise more playing time.


I'm not saying any teams are lining up for Powe at this time. But if he heals and is able to play, the Celtics would be the last team I would personally consider, that's all.  You know, Crownsy, it's just a business decision...nothing personal against the Celtics.

I agree expo, i just disagree that risking any type of significantly better contract/ promises is a good business decision for the other 29 clubs.
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Re: Not signing Leon Powe
« Reply #40 on: July 01, 2009, 01:26:37 PM »

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Powe will not resign here for the minimum.  Why would he?  He needs to showcase himself for his next contract, and he will only be able to do that somewhere where he can get more playing time.  This guy is fighting for his career now.

I agree.  Why would Powe want to resign with the Celtics now?  As far as I can tell, the Celtics aren't the best team for Leon, from a business standpoint. If Leon can't sign with any other team, then he should consider the Celtics as a last resort. Put yourself in Leon's shoes, why would you resign with a team whose management just basically showed you the door?  Do you think this same management would have your back and have your best interests at heart? 

what team do you think is going to give a bench tweener with a long history of knee injuries significantly more playing time and money than he could get here when he won't even be stepping onto the court until Christmas at the very earliest?

the overvaluing of our own players on this site is ridiculous at times. Teams are not going to be lining up to pay leon more or promise more playing time.


I'm not saying any teams are lining up for Powe at this time. But if he heals and is able to play, the Celtics would be the last team I would personally consider, that's all.  You know, Crownsy, it's just a business decision...nothing personal against the Celtics.
Sure no reason for him not to look to other opportunities.

Though I'm not sure he'll hate the Celtics as much as you seem to for not giving him free money to rehab.

Oh I don't think Leon hates the Celtics. But if the Celtics wanted to keep Powe at minimum cost, then sign him to a guaranteed minimum for this year while maintaining his rights for the next couple of years. If Powe is unable to come back then the Celtics can let him go. The Celtics have made worse financial decisions before and this one wouldn't exactly break the bank. If Powe recovers, then the Celtics can get him on the cheap for a couple of more years.  

Re: Not signing Leon Powe
« Reply #41 on: July 01, 2009, 01:31:12 PM »

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Powe will not resign here for the minimum.  Why would he?  He needs to showcase himself for his next contract, and he will only be able to do that somewhere where he can get more playing time.  This guy is fighting for his career now.

I agree.  Why would Powe want to resign with the Celtics now?  As far as I can tell, the Celtics aren't the best team for Leon, from a business standpoint. If Leon can't sign with any other team, then he should consider the Celtics as a last resort. Put yourself in Leon's shoes, why would you resign with a team whose management just basically showed you the door?  Do you think this same management would have your back and have your best interests at heart? 

what team do you think is going to give a bench tweener with a long history of knee injuries significantly more playing time and money than he could get here when he won't even be stepping onto the court until Christmas at the very earliest?

the overvaluing of our own players on this site is ridiculous at times. Teams are not going to be lining up to pay leon more or promise more playing time.


I'm not saying any teams are lining up for Powe at this time. But if he heals and is able to play, the Celtics would be the last team I would personally consider, that's all.  You know, Crownsy, it's just a business decision...nothing personal against the Celtics.
Sure no reason for him not to look to other opportunities.

Though I'm not sure he'll hate the Celtics as much as you seem to for not giving him free money to rehab.

Oh I don't think Leon hates the Celtics. But if the Celtics wanted to keep Powe at minimum cost, then sign him to a guaranteed minimum for this year while maintaining his rights for the next couple of years. If Powe is unable to come back then the Celtics can let him go. The Celtics have made worse financial decisions before and this one wouldn't exactly break the bank. If Powe recovers, then the Celtics can get him on the cheap for a couple of more years.  
I wouldn't be surprised if the Celtics were to do just that, but that isn't something that they could do right away. They just declined the QO. I don't think Powe would sign a deal that extends beyond one year. He wants to get his rightly deserved payday, that's why his agent was lobbying so hard for the QO. They wanted as high a one year deal as possible.

He'll sign somewhere for the minimum, hopefully with the C's.

Re: Not signing Leon Powe
« Reply #42 on: July 01, 2009, 01:34:16 PM »

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Powe will not resign here for the minimum.  Why would he?  He needs to showcase himself for his next contract, and he will only be able to do that somewhere where he can get more playing time.  This guy is fighting for his career now.

I agree.  Why would Powe want to resign with the Celtics now?  As far as I can tell, the Celtics aren't the best team for Leon, from a business standpoint. If Leon can't sign with any other team, then he should consider the Celtics as a last resort. Put yourself in Leon's shoes, why would you resign with a team whose management just basically showed you the door?  Do you think this same management would have your back and have your best interests at heart? 

what team do you think is going to give a bench tweener with a long history of knee injuries significantly more playing time and money than he could get here when he won't even be stepping onto the court until Christmas at the very earliest?

the overvaluing of our own players on this site is ridiculous at times. Teams are not going to be lining up to pay leon more or promise more playing time.


I'm not saying any teams are lining up for Powe at this time. But if he heals and is able to play, the Celtics would be the last team I would personally consider, that's all.  You know, Crownsy, it's just a business decision...nothing personal against the Celtics.

I agree expo, i just disagree that risking any type of significantly better contract/ promises is a good business decision for the other 29 clubs.

It wouldn't have to necessarily be a BETTER contract offer from the other 29 clubs....Powe should study which teams are the best fit for him as far as playing time and style of play. If he gets any other minimum offers from a team that suits him the best, then I would consider that offer over the Celtics, if the Celtics happen to offer. Personally, I would probably I would only sign with the Celtics if they were the only team to offer.

Re: Not signing Leon Powe
« Reply #43 on: July 01, 2009, 01:36:40 PM »

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 I don't know, the Celtics have invited him to continue to rehab at their facility and seem to be open to a return later on in his recovery.  I have a feeling that Leon comes back to the Celtics eventually.  They may have "showed him the door," but they were also the ones who opened it for him originally with one of the last picks in the draft.

Re: Not signing Leon Powe
« Reply #44 on: July 01, 2009, 02:08:21 PM »

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Leon Powe should stay with the Celtics while he returns from injury. The Celtics know what he's capable of and will likely be the most trusting and patient team around while he recovers.

Then Powe should leave right after, and join a team that will give him more minutes, so that he can develop past his current role.