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L. Hudson interesting stats/my take
« on: June 28, 2009, 11:30:57 AM »

Offline RedVision

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The thing that I personally find most interesting in Lester Hudson is that in approx 64 collegiate basketball games he only scored in single digits once! I know people may knock his competition level but look; he did what he was supposed to do he dominated everyone every night for 2 years. Making filling up a stat sheet along with dropping 30/40 points seem easy. He did this against everyone.

 It seems that the only 2 knocks on him are his age and his comp level. Maybe im just being naive but his the Ohio Valley Conf and the Southern conf that different? College ball is college ball everyone plays against everyone. Apparently some think that the Southern conf is that much better then the OVC. Steph Curry goes in the top 10 and nobody seems to complain about his scheduele being lined with formidable opponents like Elon, App State, Ga Southern, Furman, WOfford, Samford, Western Carolina etc. Point being Steph curry dominated. Hudson dominated.

I just find it amazing a player like Hudson whos has no legitimate flaws within his game and a player in Hudson who dominated every single game he played in his college carrer (bout 64) isnt viewed postively. That along with the fact he dominated workouts with other top prospects...crazy to me.

Maybe im just ranting/confused but college ball is college ball. Ive played college ball before (football) for a small school, and as I told my teammates who were looking to go pro then, "If you can ball you can ball, and someone will notice you."

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I think NBA scouts/GMs don't worry about the level of competition (Kedrick Brown was a JC player for god's sake).  That said, this guy went 58th.  Can't be too high on him.  Who knows, we could get lucky, but the odds are slim.

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The problem is that he is a shooting guard with a point guard's body, 6'2.  That means on defense he's giving up a lot of height.  Competition level is also a legitimate concern.  Everyone is taller, stronger, and more athletic in the NBA and a lot of people who dominated college turn out to be just average or can't compete at the next level.  I am optimistic about Hudson so far, but that doesn't mean I should ignore his shortcomings.

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I like Hudson and hope he sticks.  Every year there are undrafted guys, or guys drafted late, who succeed in the NBA (if not right away, then eventually).  Last year it was Anthony Morrow.

I've been trying to think of who Lester Hudson might resemble and one player who popped into mind was Troy Hudson. 

First off, they share the same last name.  Second, both were SGs caught in a PGs body (ie: scorers first, distributors second).  Third, both come from "weaker" conferences (Lester from Ohio Valley Conf., Troy from Missouri Valley Conf.),  Fourth, Troy was never drafted, Lester came close to not being drafted...
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The thing that I personally find most interesting in Lester Hudson is that in approx 64 collegiate basketball games he only scored in single digits once! I know people may knock his competition level but look; he did what he was supposed to do he dominated everyone every night for 2 years. Making filling up a stat sheet along with dropping 30/40 points seem easy. He did this against everyone.

 It seems that the only 2 knocks on him are his age and his comp level. Maybe im just being naive but his the Ohio Valley Conf and the Southern conf that different? College ball is college ball everyone plays against everyone. Apparently some think that the Southern conf is that much better then the OVC. Steph Curry goes in the top 10 and nobody seems to complain about his scheduele being lined with formidable opponents like Elon, App State, Ga Southern, Furman, WOfford, Samford, Western Carolina etc. Point being Steph curry dominated. Hudson dominated.

I just find it amazing a player like Hudson whos has no legitimate flaws within his game and a player in Hudson who dominated every single game he played in his college carrer (bout 64) isnt viewed postively. That along with the fact he dominated workouts with other top prospects...crazy to me.

Maybe im just ranting/confused but college ball is college ball. Ive played college ball before (football) for a small school, and as I told my teammates who were looking to go pro then, "If you can ball you can ball, and someone will notice you."

Taylor Coppenwrath absolutely beasted the America East conference for three years and dominated that league. He went undrafted and is playing in Europe. Is America East any different from any other smaller Div. I conference? I don't think so.

But just because a player can dominate a smaller conference, it doesn't mean he has the talent to play in the pros.

Hudson is an extreme longshot and people need to stop looking at dominating stats in a low level Div. I conference and start looking at where he was drafted and his tangible NBA type skills. He just doesn't have a ton of developmental upside and he doesn't have many NBA level skills.

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Hudson is an extreme longshot and people need to stop looking at dominating stats in a low level Div. I conference and start looking at where he was drafted and his tangible NBA type skills. He just doesn't have a ton of developmental upside and he doesn't have many NBA level skills.

I think we all realize this. 

It is just fun to do research on a player and cross our fingers that Danny got lucky.... because it looks like there won't be much improvement to the team via free agency.
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[/quote]Taylor Coppenwrath absolutely beasted the America East conference for three years and dominated that league. He went undrafted and is playing in Europe. Is America East any different from any other smaller Div. I conference? I don't think so.

But just because a player can dominate a smaller conference, it doesn't mean he has the talent to play in the pros.

Taylor Coppenwrath  wasn't/insnt physically gifted or talented enough to play in the nba. That is not the case for Hudson, despite his size (which is much bigger then Steph curry)

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 Apparently some think that the Southern conf is that much better then the OVC. Steph Curry goes in the top 10 and nobody seems to complain about his scheduele being lined with formidable opponents like Elon, App State, Ga Southern, Furman, WOfford, Samford, Western Carolina etc. Point being Steph curry dominated. Hudson dominated.



The difference between him and Curry is that Curry dominated on the national scene during the national tourny against the likes of Georgetown, Wisconin, etc.  Also Davidson the past 2 years has played a very good non-conference schedule and Curry has shown he can play with the best.  Hudson is not nor will ever be as good as Curry.  I'd be shocked if he even made the team over Pruitt/Giddins as I don't think he's better than either. 

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You gotta think that if he went to a big D1 school he'd be putting up atleast 15 ppg

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32 points 12 Rebs 7 Ast versus Aubrun isnt to shabby
35 points 10 rebs versus Memphis isn't bad
36 points 9 rebs 6 ast versus Vandy not bad
26 points 11 rebs vs UNLV not bad
plus he dropped at least 20 on every other "big" school he played against. Point being, he does not make the sched he only plays the games and he balled out every game he played in his college career. Nobody is saying he will be the next Steph Curry or better than him. But both coming from small schools its odd one was picked in the top 6 of a draft and the 2nd leading scorer in college ball was picked 58

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Hudson looks NBA ready he's got an NBA body and he can shoot and rebound. They say rebounding is the stat that translates to the other levels. I think this kid has a real shot.

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If Anthony Morrow can go undrafted and then score 37 in his first NBA game, I believe Lester Hudson can go ahead and at least beat out Pruitt and Giddens for a roster spot and play some solid minutes here and there. 

Maybe it's a long shot, but I wouldn't be that surprised.  Heck, maybe he'll even develop into a solid replacement for Eddie House and we use Eddie+TA+Scal to make a trade mid-season.
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32 points 12 Rebs 7 Ast versus Aubrun isnt to shabby
35 points 10 rebs versus Memphis isn't bad
36 points 9 rebs 6 ast versus Vandy not bad
26 points 11 rebs vs UNLV not bad
plus he dropped at least 20 on every other "big" school he played against. Point being, he does not make the sched he only plays the games and he balled out every game he played in his college career. Nobody is saying he will be the next Steph Curry or better than him. But both coming from small schools its odd one was picked in the top 6 of a draft and the 2nd leading scorer in college ball was picked 58

i'm too lazy to look myself, but i'd like to see the scores of those games.  if they were blowouts, they wouldn't mean much.  if they were close games or wins, then that is very impressive
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Hudson can score off the dribble and take it to the basket, unlike some people I know.  ::)