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Ainge is a Punk!
« on: June 24, 2009, 11:12:38 PM »

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Rondo needs to mature, but he wasn't the problem last year. Ainge is clearly scapegoating Rondo. He should instead look in the mirror. Designating Tony Allen as our 6th man, Ainge must think we are fools. If we don't get bench help & soon 2010 will resemble 2009.

Ainge needs to adjust his priorities, and get to work. We saw FA's picked up left & right, and I'm afraid that could be the case this year. We have a franchise PG, who was our "MVP". Rondo is not the problem. Danny Ainge is the problem.


Re: Ainge is a Punk!
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2009, 11:16:33 PM »

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yeah if this continues I'm going to completely forget we won the title in 08
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Re: Ainge is a Punk!
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2009, 11:16:35 PM »

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I don't like how he's handling this summer so far, either.

Tyreke Evans?

Constant dissing of Rajon?

Rondo for Gay, Conley and EuroScrub 2009? I personally hate that trade.
Grab a few boards, keep the TO's under 14, close out on shooters and we'll win.

Re: Ainge is a Punk!
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2009, 11:18:17 PM »

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If Danny was a Ramone, he'd be um, I guess Danny Ramone!?

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Re: Ainge is a Punk!
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2009, 11:27:58 PM »

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I think its not only Danny who wants Rondo to be traded, I am guessing PP and Ray Allen want their point guard shipped out. Both looked bad in the series against the Magic because double teams were thrown at them. They probably asked Danny for a point guard who can shoot.


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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2009, 11:43:57 PM »

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Re: Ainge is a Punk!
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2009, 11:48:48 PM »

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Re: Ainge is a Punk!
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2009, 10:46:39 AM »

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Rondo was completely the problem in many facets.

He was very good in some games against Chicago, and that's about it. His rebounding was awesome all playoff long, but he had a real problem with consistency especially running our offense, keeping it at a good pace, being a constant threat on the floor, poor defense, and his decision making needs a ton of work.

I like Rondo, but he has a TON to improve on and he's a weak link on the floor too often for my tastes. If Ainge can get good value for him, he should move him.... the Gay trade was a very good one for us.

He let the Magic's PGs (who are quite crappy) to dominate the series. That's completely unacceptable.

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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2009, 11:02:04 AM »

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Rondo was completely the problem in many facets.

He was very good in some games against Chicago, and that's about it. His rebounding was awesome all playoff long, but he had a real problem with consistency especially running our offense, keeping it at a good pace, being a constant threat on the floor, poor defense, and his decision making needs a ton of work.

I like Rondo, but he has a TON to improve on and he's a weak link on the floor too often for my tastes. If Ainge can get good value for him, he should move him.... the Gay trade was a very good one for us.

He let the Magic's PGs (who are quite crappy) to dominate the series. That's completely unacceptable.

we're not in the ORL series if not for Rondo.....first of all.

second, Lewis, Turk and Pietrus were the guys that killed us on the offensive side of the ball, and on defense Ray was consistently bother by JJ Reddick....JJ Reddick!!

let's not completely revise history here.

Re: Ainge is a Punk!
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2009, 11:13:17 AM »

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Rondo was completely the problem in many facets.

He was very good in some games against Chicago, and that's about it. His rebounding was awesome all playoff long, but he had a real problem with consistency especially running our offense, keeping it at a good pace, being a constant threat on the floor, poor defense, and his decision making needs a ton of work.

I like Rondo, but he has a TON to improve on and he's a weak link on the floor too often for my tastes. If Ainge can get good value for him, he should move him.... the Gay trade was a very good one for us.

He let the Magic's PGs (who are quite crappy) to dominate the series. That's completely unacceptable.

we're not in the ORL series if not for Rondo.....first of all.

second, Lewis, Turk and Pietrus were the guys that killed us on the offensive side of the ball, and on defense Ray was consistently bother by JJ Reddick....JJ Reddick!!

let's not completely revise history here.

I could care less if we're in the Orlando series because of how Rondo played in Chicago. I want a player who will play good throughout the whole playoffs.

If we're going to play that game, we don't play against the Magic if it wasn't for Ray's heroics at the end of games... so let's not completely revise history here.

Also, I didn't say that there weren't other players to blame, but that doesn't absolve Rondo's problems and weaknesses and his negative impact on various facets of the game.

Ray Allen was also bothered by an injury that completely disrupts his main strength. Also, Ray Allen is not the one running the offense and dominating the ball... Rondo is. And since Rondo is having so much control in the offense, when it doesn't run as it should most of the blame should go towards him... it also doesn't help when Rondo's defender starts helping off him to bother Ray and Pierce.

Also, Lewis and Turk are 10 times the players than what the weak Magic PG's. Turk didn't really have a good series against us either... a couple of good games, but overall we played him very well.

Lewis we knew he was going to give us trouble entering the series, we had to manage and you do that by exploiting their weakness in the PG position for starters, something we didn't do. And again, that we had trouble in other facets of the game it doesn't absolve Rondo's problems.

Re: Ainge is a Punk!
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2009, 11:14:29 AM »

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let's not completely revise history here.

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Re: Ainge is a Punk!
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2009, 11:19:08 AM »

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Rondo needs to mature, but he wasn't the problem last year. Ainge is clearly scapegoating Rondo. He should instead look in the mirror. Designating Tony Allen as our 6th man, Ainge must think we are fools. If we don't get bench help & soon 2010 will resemble 2009.

Ainge needs to adjust his priorities, and get to work. We saw FA's picked up left & right, and I'm afraid that could be the case this year. We have a franchise PG, who was our "MVP". Rondo is not the problem. Danny Ainge is the problem.


Wow.

I guess Ainge injured KG and kept Rondo from improving his jumpshot.  I suppose he also would rather keep Rondo than have Pierce and Ray happy which I don't think they are with Rondo. Rondo wasn't the reason they lost to Orlando, but not having KG and Rondo's man roaming to Pierce and Ray on every catch had a huge crippling effect.

This is appearing to be more and more what Ainge is driving at with both Rondo and his agent.  He is essentially saying, "Listen, we're not overpaying Rajon and frankly his teammates want a PG that can shoot.  So, who's the pressure on now biznitch?"

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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2009, 11:46:54 AM »

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Rondo was completely the problem in many facets.

He was very good in some games against Chicago, and that's about it. His rebounding was awesome all playoff long, but he had a real problem with consistency especially running our offense, keeping it at a good pace, being a constant threat on the floor, poor defense, and his decision making needs a ton of work.

I like Rondo, but he has a TON to improve on and he's a weak link on the floor too often for my tastes. If Ainge can get good value for him, he should move him.... the Gay trade was a very good one for us.

He let the Magic's PGs (who are quite crappy) to dominate the series. That's completely unacceptable.

we're not in the ORL series if not for Rondo.....first of all.

second, Lewis, Turk and Pietrus were the guys that killed us on the offensive side of the ball, and on defense Ray was consistently bother by JJ Reddick....JJ Reddick!!

let's not completely revise history here.

I could care less if we're in the Orlando series because of how Rondo played in Chicago. I want a player who will play good throughout the whole playoffs.

If we're going to play that game, we don't play against the Magic if it wasn't for Ray's heroics at the end of games... so let's not completely revise history here.

Also, I didn't say that there weren't other players to blame, but that doesn't absolve Rondo's problems and weaknesses and his negative impact on various facets of the game.

Ray Allen was also bothered by an injury that completely disrupts his main strength. Also, Ray Allen is not the one running the offense and dominating the ball... Rondo is. And since Rondo is having so much control in the offense, when it doesn't run as it should most of the blame should go towards him... it also doesn't help when Rondo's defender starts helping off him to bother Ray and Pierce.

Also, Lewis and Turk are 10 times the players than what the weak Magic PG's. Turk didn't really have a good series against us either... a couple of good games, but overall we played him very well.

Lewis we knew he was going to give us trouble entering the series, we had to manage and you do that by exploiting their weakness in the PG position for starters, something we didn't do. And again, that we had trouble in other facets of the game it doesn't absolve Rondo's problems.

well i guess if you want players that will play consistently good throughout the whole playoffs you must be pretty upset with Pierce and Ray also.

they were incredibly inconsistent in the playoffs this year, especially Ray....

and if you want to play the injury game, Ray wasn't the only one battling them. how many times did Rajon role his ankles. he was terribly hobbled come playoff time with BOTH his ankles.

Re: Ainge is a Punk!
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2009, 11:54:49 AM »

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I am upset with them also, but their problem was more of a consequence of injury and fatigue, which I would put a chunk of the blame on Doc if it weren't for all those overtime games in the Chicago series.

I know Rajon was injured too, but in his case it was not an excuse to play poor defense especially by making bad decisions... it's not an excuse to not push the ball. I'm not here complaining about his poor shooting or anything like that, I'm complaining about things he can control... play with speed, put effort defensively, and make good decisions with the ball.  He did all this things quite well in various games against Chicago (except defense), so he was fully capable of keeping it up against Orlando. Hell, even himself talked about it in some press conferences that he has trouble pushing the pace from a mental standpoint.

But the point still stands... Rondo was supposed to be our biggest asset against Orlando to exploit their main weakness, and he didn't deliver.
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Re: Ainge is a Punk!
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2009, 11:59:52 AM »

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I am upset with them also, but their problem was more of a consequence of injury and fatigue, which I would put a chunk of the blame on Doc if it weren't for all those overtime games in the Chicago series.

I know Rajon was injured too, but in his case it was not an excuse to play poor defense especially by making bad decisions... it's not an excuse to not push the ball. I'm not here complaining about his poor shooting or anything like that, I'm complaining about things he can control... play with speed, put effort defensively, and make good decisions with the ball.  He did all this things quite well in various games against Chicago, so he was fully capable of keeping it up against Orlando. Hell, even himself talked about it in some press conferences that he has trouble pushing the pace from a mental standpoint.

fine, but Ray and Paul also played well in some games....so why are you so quick to attribute their down games to injury and Doc, but call Rondo out ONLY due to his unwillingness to play hard every night.

look, I'm not saying i disagree that Rondo needs to mature and be more consistent, but guess what, it wasn't that long ago that Pierce had that ridiculous press conference with the bandage on his head after the game in Indiana.....and he was A LOT further in his career than Rondo is right now.