Clippers would consider trading the #1 Pick?

[rondohondo]

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/jun/18/more-questions-than-answers/

Have the Griz tried to pry away to No. 1 overall pick from the Clippers?

Most definitely. Word on the street is that the Clippers aren't entertaining any discussions without a suitor's willingness to take Baron Davis off their hands. It's a hefty price to acquire the No. 1 overall pick -- Davis has major attitude, and five years with more than $53 million left on his deal. Don't expect the Griz to meet that demand.

So if it's true that they would trade the # 1 pick to get rid of baron davis' contract then the celtics could definitely make a strong offer.

Bos sends: Rondo
                  BBD( S+T 4 MIL PER YEAR)
                  Scal ( 3 MIL Expiring)
                  TA   (2.5 MIL Expiring)
                  Walker or future 1st

I would even consider trading Perk to make the deal happen, thats how good I think Griffen is going to be. Maybe the Celtics could even get Kaman back in the trade as the Clippers would be saving 5 MIL a year in the difference between Perks and Kaman's contracts.

LAC sends: Baron Davis
                 # 1 Pick

Why for Boston:

They get a legit championship caliber PG in return. Sure he is overpaid, but the kid can still play at a very high level. He has playoff experience and isn't affraid to take and make big shot. His supposed attitude problems might tear a young team apart, but there is no way he is going to go into a locker room with 3 future HOF players and disrupt the chemistry of a contending team.

They also get the # 1 pick and a possible franchise player in Griffen. He is a athletic beast already and with KG in his ear every day it will make him into a stud

Boston Roster 2009 - 10

PG: Davis                / Marbury( VET MIN)
SG: Ray                  / House
SF: PP                   / Grant Hill ( VET MIN)
PF: KG                   / Griffen
 C: Perk or Zaza* or Gortat( MLE)* / Vet FA

* = only if Perk is traded.

Why for LAC

They get rid of Baron's contract which they have been trying to move the last 2 years. They also get a few young prospects in return in BBD + Perk (if it is necessary to make the trade happen)

They also get Rondo who likely would be the #2 Pick if he was in the draft this year. He is a proven young PG who has a championship to fill Baron Davis' role. He would be a very good young leader for the Clippers and make a great backcourt along with Eric Gordon for the next 10+ years

Clippers Roster 2009-10

PG: Rondo      / VET FA
SG: Gordon     / VET FA
SF: Thorton    / VET FA
PF: Randolph   / BBD
 C: Kaman      / Camby

[bobdelt]

You think BBD wants to play for the clippers? And this trade can't happen until July, if then.

So basically it's Rondo for the number 1 pick and Baron Davis.

So I guess we take Griffin or Rubio and hope Davis comes to play?

[rondohondo]

You think BBD wants to play for the clippers? And this trade can't happen until July, if then.

So basically it's Rondo for the number 1 pick and Baron Davis.

So I guess we take Griffin or Rubio and hope Davis comes to play?

yea thats true maybe if they left bbd out they could still get it done. either that or throw in perk and get back kaman hmmm

[BudweiserCeltic]

This is why I created this thread yestarday to entertain some Clippers/Boston trade ideas:
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=29132.0

Interesting scenario though. I don't know if I feel comfortable with our wing depth though... maybe we can get Ricky Davis included also just for depth purposes.

[rondohondo]

This is why I created this thread yestarday to entertain some Clippers/Boston trade ideas:
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=29132.0

Interesting scenario though. I don't know if I feel comfortable with our wing depth though... maybe we can get Ricky Davis included also just for depth purposes.

I think Ricky Davis is a free agent if I'm not mistaken .

[Fan from VT]

Davis plays well in the right situations. Alongside Pierce and KG and playing for Doc, I think, is one of those situations.

If LA would really give up the #1 for some salary relief, what about:
Ray for Baron, Kaman, #1?

That gets rid of LA's 2 longest contracts. The Celtics can easily play Baron at 2 guard; Griffin becomes the heir to KG so we have a 4 big-man rotation of Perk, KG, Kaman, Griffin, then we don't have to worry about the BBD situation and can focus everything on a backup 2/3. One of Baron/Rondo would always be on the floor for ballhandling purposes, and they'd be on together at the start and finish of games. If LA would do this, I think the C's would have to:

Rondo/Baron
Baron/House/FA
Pierce/FA/Walker
KG/Griffin
Perk/Kaman

[rondohondo]

Davis plays well in the right situations. Alongside Pierce and KG and playing for Doc, I think, is one of those situations.

If LA would really give up the #1 for some salary relief, what about:
Ray for Baron, Kaman, #1?

That gets rid of LA's 2 longest contracts. The Celtics can easily play Baron at 2 guard; Griffin becomes the heir to KG so we have a 4 big-man rotation of Perk, KG, Kaman, Griffin, then we don't have to worry about the BBD situation and can focus everything on a backup 2/3. One of Baron/Rondo would always be on the floor for ballhandling purposes, and they'd be on together at the start and finish of games. If LA would do this, I think the C's would have to:

Rondo/Baron
Baron/House/FA
Pierce/FA/Walker
KG/Griffin
Perk/Kaman

As much as I would like this trade, lets be realistic. Any trade involving the # 1 pick we are going to have to give up Rondo, which I don't have a problem with in this scenario because we get a legit starting PG with playoff experience back.

[bobdelt]

Davis plays well in the right situations. Alongside Pierce and KG and playing for Doc, I think, is one of those situations.

If LA would really give up the #1 for some salary relief, what about:
Ray for Baron, Kaman, #1?

That gets rid of LA's 2 longest contracts. The Celtics can easily play Baron at 2 guard; Griffin becomes the heir to KG so we have a 4 big-man rotation of Perk, KG, Kaman, Griffin, then we don't have to worry about the BBD situation and can focus everything on a backup 2/3. One of Baron/Rondo would always be on the floor for ballhandling purposes, and they'd be on together at the start and finish of games. If LA would do this, I think the C's would have to:

Rondo/Baron
Baron/House/FA
Pierce/FA/Walker
KG/Griffin
Perk/Kaman

You'd have to include Rondo for that to have a chance.

[Fan from VT]

If they'd really trade the #1 just to get rid of Baron's salary, then probably Ray for Camby, Baron, #1 is a better deal for boston; trading for kaman instead of Camby motivates them that much more though.

[Fan from VT]

I don't know if you'd have to include rondo if the clippers just want salary relief. but if so, would the clips go as far as:

Ray, rondo for davis, kaman, gordon, #1?

Are they desperate enough to shed salary? what if we took randolph instead of kaman? it may be worth it to add griffin/gordon to the fold.

[BudweiserCeltic]

This is why I created this thread yestarday to entertain some Clippers/Boston trade ideas:
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=29132.0

Interesting scenario though. I don't know if I feel comfortable with our wing depth though... maybe we can get Ricky Davis included also just for depth purposes.

I think Ricky Davis is a free agent if I'm not mistaken .

Yeah, I'm working under the assumption that he accepts his player option... does this occur before or after the draft? Because if it's after, then sure.

[fantankerous]

The idea that the Celtics can pry the #1 from the Clippers is delusional. The Clippers asked Memphis to absorb Baron's contract in order to move up 1 spot! There is no way that the Clippers take a package centered around Rondo. Griffin is a better prospect on a reasonable contract for several years. The Clippers would lose most of the financial savings of moving Baron after one season since they would be forced to sign Rondo to a long-term contract.

[Jon]

We don't want the #1 pick in the draft, especially at the cost of Rondo.  Sure, Blake Griffin might end up being the better player (then again he might not, see Kwame Brown and Michael Olowokandi), but it won't happen for a few years.  In the meantime, we'd have no one to play point guard next year and by the time Griffin becomes the star people think he might be, Allen's gone, Pierce might be, and KG might be washed up.   

No thanks. 

[BudweiserCeltic]

The idea that the Celtics can pry the #1 from the Clippers is delusional. The Clippers asked Memphis to absorb Baron's contract in order to move up 1 spot! There is no way that the Clippers take a package centered around Rondo. Griffin is a better prospect on a reasonable contract for several years. The Clippers would lose most of the financial savings of moving Baron after one season since they would be forced to sign Rondo to a long-term contract.

It's not only about financial savings with Davis. They just don't want him there. If Davis and the Clippers had a good relationship, they wouldn't be worried about his contract.

[BballTim]

The idea that the Celtics can pry the #1 from the Clippers is delusional. The Clippers asked Memphis to absorb Baron's contract in order to move up 1 spot! There is no way that the Clippers take a package centered around Rondo. Griffin is a better prospect on a reasonable contract for several years. The Clippers would lose most of the financial savings of moving Baron after one season since they would be forced to sign Rondo to a long-term contract.

  I don't think it's delusional, but I definitely wouldn't want to trade Rondo for Baron. In this draft, I think Rondo's easily worth as much as the 2nd pick.