Who does Danny Ainge really want in the Top 5?

[Atzar]

Danny is going after evans there is no doubt about it.

look at this clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDAT8yMr2b4

This kid has elite level handles (something like derrick rose, dwade). Not overly athletic though

Supposedly the next great one out of high school , won mcdonalds mvp and other awards etc.

He reminds me of al jefferson, the guard version with his craftiness and capabilities to finish down low.

Danny's plan i predict

Trade perkins, bill walker and next years 1st round pick for this years 2nd round pick (Evans) and a throw in for salary matching.

Doubt he trades ray allen and will try to sign some servicle pf/centres with some good cash to offer (verejao?)to make a run at the championship

danny wants to win but i feel that he really wants to make sure we keep having chances to win in the future. He probably doesn't feel comfortable that perk and rondo could carry the expections. (I don't)

He really must feel evans could be like the next paul pierce for us, someone you can rely on to score for you and take the tough shots and most importantly get them in

Yeah, a backcourt of two players who don't have great jumpshots, just what we need for the future. (Rondo + Evans)

Also, Evans has consistently been referred to as "not overly athletic."  How many super-stars can you think of that are "not very athletic"?  Yeah, not many.

I sure hope he's not gunning for Evans.

The whole 'not overly athletic' thing is way overblown for some of these players.  'Not overly athletic' isn't at all the same as 'not athletic'.  Paul Pierce is 'not overly athletic'.  Brandon Roy, Deron Williams, and a large number of very good big men could be tagged with the same label - this is just off the top of my head.  Athleticism is nice and it makes for great highlights, but not having a 44" vertical or elite speed doesn't condemn a player to mediocrity, just as being able to jump out of the gym doesn't guarantee greatness. 

[PosImpos]

Danny is going after evans there is no doubt about it.

look at this clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDAT8yMr2b4

This kid has elite level handles (something like derrick rose, dwade). Not overly athletic though

Supposedly the next great one out of high school , won mcdonalds mvp and other awards etc.

He reminds me of al jefferson, the guard version with his craftiness and capabilities to finish down low.

Danny's plan i predict

Trade perkins, bill walker and next years 1st round pick for this years 2nd round pick (Evans) and a throw in for salary matching.

Doubt he trades ray allen and will try to sign some servicle pf/centres with some good cash to offer (verejao?)to make a run at the championship

danny wants to win but i feel that he really wants to make sure we keep having chances to win in the future. He probably doesn't feel comfortable that perk and rondo could carry the expections. (I don't)

He really must feel evans could be like the next paul pierce for us, someone you can rely on to score for you and take the tough shots and most importantly get them in

Yeah, a backcourt of two players who don't have great jumpshots, just what we need for the future. (Rondo + Evans)

Also, Evans has consistently been referred to as "not overly athletic."  How many super-stars can you think of that are "not very athletic"?  Yeah, not many.

I sure hope he's not gunning for Evans.

The whole 'not overly athletic' thing is way overblown for some of these players.  'Not overly athletic' isn't at all the same as 'not athletic'.  Paul Pierce is 'not overly athletic'.  Brandon Roy, Deron Williams, and a large number of very good big men could be tagged with the same label - this is just off the top of my head.  Athleticism is nice and it makes for great highlights, but not having a 44" vertical or elite speed doesn't condemn a player to mediocrity, just as being able to jump out of the gym doesn't guarantee greatness. 

Fair enough, but considering he doesn't have a great jumpshot and isn't know for creating shots for others, I would say the lack of athleticism is a little bit more important.  Fact is, this doesn't sound like a guy who could be a franchise player, at least not for quite some time - so trading an important part of this team right now to get him doesn't seem to make sense.

[Atzar]

Yeah, a backcourt of two players who don't have great jumpshots, just what we need for the future. (Rondo + Evans)

Also, Evans has consistently been referred to as "not overly athletic."  How many super-stars can you think of that are "not very athletic"?  Yeah, not many.

I sure hope he's not gunning for Evans.

The whole 'not overly athletic' thing is way overblown for some of these players.  'Not overly athletic' isn't at all the same as 'not athletic'.  Paul Pierce is 'not overly athletic'.  Brandon Roy, Deron Williams, and a large number of very good big men could be tagged with the same label - this is just off the top of my head.  Athleticism is nice and it makes for great highlights, but not having a 44" vertical or elite speed doesn't condemn a player to mediocrity, just as being able to jump out of the gym doesn't guarantee greatness. 

Fair enough, but considering he doesn't have a great jumpshot and isn't know for creating shots for others, I would say the lack of athleticism is a little bit more important.  Fact is, this doesn't sound like a guy who could be a franchise player, at least not for quite some time - so trading an important part of this team right now to get him doesn't seem to make sense.

I agree with you on the jumpshot.  But if he isn't a very good player in a couple of years, it won't be because he's not athletic enough.  There are several big holes in his game right now, but athleticism isn't one of them. 

[PosImpos]

Yeah, a backcourt of two players who don't have great jumpshots, just what we need for the future. (Rondo + Evans)

Also, Evans has consistently been referred to as "not overly athletic."  How many super-stars can you think of that are "not very athletic"?  Yeah, not many.

I sure hope he's not gunning for Evans.

The whole 'not overly athletic' thing is way overblown for some of these players.  'Not overly athletic' isn't at all the same as 'not athletic'.  Paul Pierce is 'not overly athletic'.  Brandon Roy, Deron Williams, and a large number of very good big men could be tagged with the same label - this is just off the top of my head.  Athleticism is nice and it makes for great highlights, but not having a 44" vertical or elite speed doesn't condemn a player to mediocrity, just as being able to jump out of the gym doesn't guarantee greatness. 

Fair enough, but considering he doesn't have a great jumpshot and isn't know for creating shots for others, I would say the lack of athleticism is a little bit more important.  Fact is, this doesn't sound like a guy who could be a franchise player, at least not for quite some time - so trading an important part of this team right now to get him doesn't seem to make sense.

I agree with you on the jumpshot.  But if he isn't a very good player in a couple of years, it won't be because he's not athletic enough.  There are several big holes in his game right now, but athleticism isn't one of them. 

Alright, even if that's the case, I think we can agree the holes in his game are big enough that he's not worth trading a starter to draft him.

[Tr1boy]

evans has no jump shot?? you see the clip? He was launching some real difficult ones. Scouts say his jump shot form is not textbook but from the looks of it he can shoot

He is the best penetrator in the upcoming draft but not too sure about his defense also.

danny really must see something in him

[PosImpos]

evans has no jump shot?? you see the clip? He was launching some real difficult ones. Scouts say his jump shot form is not textbook but from the looks of it he can shoot

He is the best penetrator in the upcoming draft but not too sure about his defense also.

danny really must see something in him

Dude, it's a highlight reel.  Do you think they're going to show all the times he missed those shots?

[Cman]

I didn't see the "none of the above/ no one" option.

That would be my vote.  My guess is that if Ainge is targeting anyone, it is someone in the middle of the first who is ready to contribute now, or in one year.

Edit: And that means, to the close reader, that I don't believe that Ainge is really interested in the #2 or #5, but that it is smoke designed to get one or two players to rise a bit in the rankings, so that Ainge's preferred player falls a bit...

[Atzar]

Yeah, a backcourt of two players who don't have great jumpshots, just what we need for the future. (Rondo + Evans)

Also, Evans has consistently been referred to as "not overly athletic."  How many super-stars can you think of that are "not very athletic"?  Yeah, not many.

I sure hope he's not gunning for Evans.

The whole 'not overly athletic' thing is way overblown for some of these players.  'Not overly athletic' isn't at all the same as 'not athletic'.  Paul Pierce is 'not overly athletic'.  Brandon Roy, Deron Williams, and a large number of very good big men could be tagged with the same label - this is just off the top of my head.  Athleticism is nice and it makes for great highlights, but not having a 44" vertical or elite speed doesn't condemn a player to mediocrity, just as being able to jump out of the gym doesn't guarantee greatness. 

Fair enough, but considering he doesn't have a great jumpshot and isn't know for creating shots for others, I would say the lack of athleticism is a little bit more important.  Fact is, this doesn't sound like a guy who could be a franchise player, at least not for quite some time - so trading an important part of this team right now to get him doesn't seem to make sense.

I agree with you on the jumpshot.  But if he isn't a very good player in a couple of years, it won't be because he's not athletic enough.  There are several big holes in his game right now, but athleticism isn't one of them. 

Alright, even if that's the case, I think we can agree the holes in his game are big enough that he's not worth trading a starter to draft him.

Couldn't agree more with that.

[Tr1boy]

evans has no jump shot?? you see the clip? He was launching some real difficult ones. Scouts say his jump shot form is not textbook but from the looks of it he can shoot

He is the best penetrator in the upcoming draft but not too sure about his defense also.

danny really must see something in him

Dude, it's a highlight reel.  Do you think they're going to show all the times he missed those shots?

highlight reel or not he can shoot. You think a guy who can't shoot at all or not well like rondo can even shoot that the way the clip was presented?

He also shot 45 from the field which is a more than decent clip for a sf/sg

I don't know evans nor really seen him last year but something about him indicates he will be a good player in the nba imo. You don't see too many guys that can dribble around a team like he did to score. (even at the college level)

[Chris]

I don't know evans nor really seen him last year but something about him indicates he will be a good player in the nba imo. You don't see too many guys that can dribble around a team like he did to score. (even at the college level)

My problem isn't with whether he can dribble around a team to score, it is that he thought that was a good idea. 

This guy is a gunner of the highest order, who has a suspect jump shot, and some character questions to boot.  He is Tony Allen 2.0.  I really REALLY hope Danny does not have any interest in him.

[Tr1boy]

Tony allen is a decent offensive player if given a chance vs evans who can score at will (even after contact, change his shot in mid air, acrobatic shots). There was a reason allen was picked where he was and evans is projected to be picked where he is (and this is a pretty good draft class)

[lon3lytoaster]

Tony allen is a decent offensive player if given a chance vs evans who can score at will (even after contact, change his shot in mid air, acrobatic shots). There was a reason allen was picked where he was and evans is projected to be picked where he is (and this is a pretty good draft class)

Ok, I probably have more faith in this draft class than most people, but even I don't consider it "pretty good" It's probably below average, at best. I think there will be 4-5 (if that) potential all stars from it, after that I think everyone else in the draft will have a pretty short NBA shelf life.

[Chris]

Tony allen is a decent offensive player if given a chance vs evans who can score at will (even after contact, change his shot in mid air, acrobatic shots). There was a reason allen was picked where he was and evans is projected to be picked where he is (and this is a pretty good draft class)

By pretty good, do you mean "one of the worst in the history of the league"?  Because that seems to be the general consensus among the "experts".  This is an incredibly weak draft class.

[winsomme]

Tony allen is a decent offensive player if given a chance vs evans who can score at will (even after contact, change his shot in mid air, acrobatic shots). There was a reason allen was picked where he was and evans is projected to be picked where he is (and this is a pretty good draft class)

By pretty good, do you mean "one of the worst in the history of the league"?  Because that seems to be the general consensus among the "experts".  This is an incredibly weak draft class.

personally i think this draft is kinda deceptive. maybe not the huge talent at the top, but i think you can get a REALLY good player pretty deep in the draft - including lots of interesting second rounders.

guys like Jeff Teague, Ty Lawson, Derrick Brown, Sam Young, Marcus Thornton, Hansbrough....all look to be going mid to late first round. Those are some quality players.

[oldmanspeaks]

I wrote this in another thread. I watched an early season game and Evans was the most selfish player I have ever seen and I am old old man. Later in the year he as a different player but I would be highly concerned whether he would revert if had money in his pocket. He could destroy teamwork in any team