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Re: Any chance the C's try to regain Posey?
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2009, 08:53:45 AM »

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CoachBo maybe you're right but it takes time to learn how to defend like Pose dose. Experience, knowing the job, and executing is what separates him from other guys with his body type and more athleticism.

It's like the difference between Perk and Bynum.

that's amazing speculation on your part, and has little to do with reality, since posey rarely played the 4 unless we were going small, and when we went small, KG typicaly slides to the 5.

It's just a free physics lesson dude. Unexpected bad stuff can happen too. Saving wear on KG could happen in tons of ways. The hugs maybe lift everyone's mood, the team is a little less nasty in their talk, and the refs let us blow out more teams instead of getting them back into close games, etc.

I think it should be obvious though that with Pose the question mark was never this year, it's future years.

It has nothing to do with 'playing the 4' and everything to do with matchups. Pose guarded everyone with his body type, whether they were tall 2s or skinny 4s.

Re: Any chance the C's try to regain Posey?
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2009, 09:02:20 AM »

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I don't mind going for Posey.  Maybe they view not signing him as a mistake.  I do.
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Re: Any chance the C's try to regain Posey?
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2009, 09:05:08 AM »

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I don't mind going for Posey.  Maybe they view not signing him as a mistake.  I do.
Unless they are unable to find a backup 3 on the FA market I don't see them going for Posey. There is no reason they shouldn't be able to find one, but then again I said the same thing last off season.....

Re: Any chance the C's try to regain Posey?
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2009, 09:06:24 AM »

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CoachBo maybe you're right but it takes time to learn how to defend like Pose dose. Experience, knowing the job, and executing is what separates him from other guys with his body type and more athleticism.

It's like the difference between Perk and Bynum.

that's amazing speculation on your part, and has little to do with reality, since posey rarely played the 4 unless we were going small, and when we went small, KG typicaly slides to the 5.

It's just a free physics lesson dude. Unexpected bad stuff can happen too. Saving wear on KG could happen in tons of ways. The hugs maybe lift everyone's mood, the team is a little less nasty in their talk, and the refs let us blow out more teams instead of getting them back into close games, etc.

I think it should be obvious though that with Pose the question mark was never this year, it's future years.

It has nothing to do with 'playing the 4' and everything to do with matchups. Pose guarded everyone with his body type, whether they were tall 2s or skinny 4s.

right but its complelty illogical and has no bearing on weather it would have actually happened or not. I'm all for alternate time travel crap on star trek, but this is real life.

I just decided that in my alternate universe, we signed chris anderson and won the championship this year after trading ray and scal at mid season for dwayne wade. IT makes as much sense.
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Re: Any chance the C's try to regain Posey?
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2009, 09:50:48 AM »

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No, now you are being [difficult] on purpose crownsy ...

The Pose situation is the single yes or no question we could change our answer to and win a championship this year. Even without KG we could have won with Pose here.

There are few question marks other than an unlucky injury, and the chances of that are way reduced by his familiarity here and lack of stress from not fitting into a new situation in New Orleans.

If not Posey, we needed a player with his body type and skill set. Not a lot of those guys to choose from and nobody was as easy for us to get as Pose, which came down to a yes or no.

And time travel is the dumbest, most annoying thing about Star Trek and every real fan knows that hmmmph.

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Re: Any chance the C's try to regain Posey?
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2009, 10:00:51 AM »

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anyone who thinks danny ainge is bringing back posey after letting him go due to money really doesn't know danny ainge. it's not happening. forget it.

if grant hill could be signed for the full LLE, why would we take posey for 6 mil a year?
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Re: Any chance the C's try to regain Posey?
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2009, 10:05:38 AM »

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Considering he just had surgery and makes about 3 times more than he should squashes that notion pretty fast.

Re: Any chance the C's try to regain Posey?
« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2009, 10:15:33 AM »

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No, now you are being retarded on purpose crownsy grow up.

The Pose situation is the single yes or no question we could change our answer to and win a championship this year. Even without KG we could have won with Pose here.

There are few question marks other than an unlucky injury, and the chances of that are way reduced by his familiarity here and lack of stress from not fitting into a new situation in New Orleans.

If not Posey, we needed a player with his body type and skill set. Not a lot of those guys to choose from and nobody was as easy for us to get as Pose, which came down to a yes or no.

And time travel is the dumbest, most annoying thing about Star Trek and every real fan knows that hmmmph.
Calling another poster retarded over an issue that is not so cut and dry is a bad way to convince people. Or maintain any respect or credibility.

Re: Any chance the C's try to regain Posey?
« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2009, 10:25:40 AM »

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anyone who thinks danny ainge is bringing back posey after letting him go due to money really doesn't know danny ainge. it's not happening. forget it.

Danny doesn't even make the money decisions. Slyc Wyc needs no introduction here but people forget that Steve Pagliuca is like the KG of accounting. Pose is the yes or no question we could change our answer to and still win, but KG getting injured was just bad luck that was out of anyone's control and we'd have won this year with him even with the weak bench. I can't fault Wyc and Steve for not splurging on what looked like a luxurious amount of insurance at the time. But they are competitive guys and they want to win. Even with the KG injury I still see us a very lucky franchise once again. 8)

Consider the Phoenix owner...banks and hotels. OUCH. The Charlotte BobJohnsonCats? Hotels and car dealerhships. OUCH.

NO is cash poor and our owners are some of the few ants in a grasshopper league. We've got cash and other teams need cash badly. I'm not saying I think Pose will be the first choice or anything, his future is still a big question mark, but he will definitely be considered as part of a somewhat larger deal with NO. All you really need from NO to justify Posey is to get some other guy we'd play or want to develop who is currently playing for short money.

Re: Any chance the C's try to regain Posey?
« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2009, 10:28:22 AM »

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Calling another poster retarded over an issue that is not so cut and dry is a bad way to convince people. Or maintain any respect or credibility.

Bill Kennedy is that you? I only sass what has already sassed me.

Re: Any chance the C's try to regain Posey?
« Reply #25 on: June 04, 2009, 10:33:23 AM »

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No, now you are being retarded on purpose crownsy grow up.

The Pose situation is the single yes or no question we could change our answer to and win a championship this year. Even without KG we could have won with Pose here.

There are few question marks other than an unlucky injury, and the chances of that are way reduced by his familiarity here and lack of stress from not fitting into a new situation in New Orleans.

If not Posey, we needed a player with his body type and skill set. Not a lot of those guys to choose from and nobody was as easy for us to get as Pose, which came down to a yes or no.

And time travel is the dumbest, most annoying thing about Star Trek and every real fan knows that hmmmph.

im goign to ignore most of your post, since its just personal attacks for not agreeing with you and pointing out your entire argument is flawed, and focus on this:


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Even without KG we could have won with Pose here.

your entire post that you've decided to attack me not agreeing with you on  is based off me saying that without KG, we wouldn't have won and you contending that in your alternate history scenario, KG doesn't get hurt because of Pose:

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Parallel worlds don't work like that.

The same injuries do not necessarily happen. It's entirely possible with Posey here that even Kevin wouldn't have been injured.


But apparently, we would have won without KG anyway.

so which is it? your argument, if it can be called that, is changing every post.





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Re: Any chance the C's try to regain Posey?
« Reply #26 on: June 04, 2009, 10:35:24 AM »

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Calling another poster retarded over an issue that is not so cut and dry is a bad way to convince people. Or maintain any respect or credibility.

Bill Kennedy is that you? I only sass what has already sassed me.

so not agreeing with you on an issue is "sass" and worthy of a meanspirited personal attack instead of trying to defend your logic?

dully noted, i just wont try to have a discussion with you at any time in the future, its clearly not worth the time if any disagreement by another poster results in a petty personal attack as fafnir correctly surmised.

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Re: Any chance the C's try to regain Posey?
« Reply #27 on: June 04, 2009, 10:37:17 AM »

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Calling another poster retarded over an issue that is not so cut and dry is a bad way to convince people. Or maintain any respect or credibility.

Bill Kennedy is that you? I only sass what has already sassed me.
He used an analogy to attack your argument. That KG wouldn't have been hurt if Posey was still a Celtic.

You attacked him as having a mental defect. There is a difference.

BTW I think your hypothesis that KG's knee wouldn't have been hurt with Posey is flawed. The knee issue was caused by the aggravation of bone spurs that existed from the start of the season. Nor were KG's minutes extended more this year than last year when the C's had Posey.

Re: Any chance the C's try to regain Posey?
« Reply #28 on: June 04, 2009, 10:38:15 AM »

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With Posey we'd be playing the finals today.

Pose would have saved a lot of wear and tear on Pierce, and guarded Salmons, Lewis, and Pietrus well enough.

  Posey would have also carried Paul's share of the offensive load? If not, we'd still be sitting at home.

Re: Any chance the C's try to regain Posey?
« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2009, 10:39:25 AM »

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With Posey we'd be playing the finals today.

Pose would have saved a lot of wear and tear on Pierce, and guarded Salmons, Lewis, and Pietrus well enough.

  Posey would have also carried Paul's share of the offensive load? If not, we'd still be sitting at home.
Maybe just maybe we beat Orlando with Posey. But without KG/Powe and without home court we would not have beaten the Cavs. Our front court would have been too weak over 7 games.