Trade Assets - Expiring Contracts

[jchen1731]

Elaborate on Jeff's column, given we have $8.8 expiring contract + draft picks, I went through the salary for the rest of the league to look for potential trade candidates.

Here are the assumptions I have used:

• Cannot be an All Star; teams generally don't dump All Star at 8-9 million per year for expiring contracts, no matter how broke they are. Pau Gasol trade won't ever happen again!
• Must have multi years left on the contract
• The player is not part of the "core guys" that the team is trying to build around; in other words, expandable players

Players, Salary, Years Remaining (Including next year)

Small Forward

• Magette: $8.9, 4 years left
• Diaw: $9, 3 years left
• Stephen Jackson: $7.7, 4 years left
• Nocioni: $7.5, 4 years left
• Posey: $6.0, 3 years left

Shooting Guard

• Jamal Crawford: $9.4, 2 years left
• Mike Dunleavy: $9.8, 2 years left
• Jason Terry: $9.9, 3 years left (long shot)
• Leandrinho Barbosa: $6.6, 3 years left

Point Guard

• Kirk Hinrich: $9.5, 3 years left
• Jamal Tinsley: $7.2, 2 years left

Big Man

• Dan Gadzuric: $6.7, 2 years left
• Nick Collison: $6.3, 2 years left
• Ronny Turiaf: $4.2, 3 years left

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[jchen1731]

My ideal summer would be...

1. sign rasheed wallace to mid level
2. trade expiring contracts for boris diaw or nocioni
3. resign marbury and powe for minimum
4. resign big baby at no more than $4 a year.

[Lucky17]

Scal, Tony Allen, Giddens, and Pruitt to OKC for Earl Watson and Damien Wilkins.

Scal gets bought out and returns to Boston for vet min money.

You've got your backup PG and SF right there. Bonus: both are in final years of their current contracts, so they could conceivably be flipped during mid-season if someone better becomes available.

[KungPoweChicken]

Golden State has said they will look to trade Crawford if he exercises his option. If I were Danny, I would look to package Scal, TA, and Giddens for him. Crawford could backup Rondo and Allen. He can score with the best of them. He would keep defenses honest when Rondo goes out of the game--if he's playing the point.

[Lucky17]

Golden State has said they will look to trade Crawford if he exercises his option. If I were Danny, I would look to package Scal, TA, and Giddens for him. Crawford could backup Rondo and Allen. He can score with the best of them. He would keep defenses honest when Rondo goes out of the game--if he's playing the point.

That's an interesting idea, although we might need to add a little more outgoing salary to make it work. Although, I don't know if Crawford can be effective with only 20 minutes a night, unless Doc goes with a smallball lineup with Pierce at PF and KG at C (not saying he should, either).

We could also be brokers in a 3-way trade, enabling a team to get Crawford, and picking up some depth in the process.

[LarBrd33]

I had an idea I was discussing with Roy that I'll just dump into this thread too. 

What's New York's situation like?  If they resign David Lee how much cap room are they looking at in the summer of 2010 (where the rumor has been that Bron, Wade and Bosh could all decide to come play there)?  Eddie Curry's 10 mil is still a small problem, right?  How badly do they want to get rid of Eddie Curry's 10 mil?  Bad enough to give up the #8 pick in order to dump Curry for 10 mil in 2010 expirings?

Offer them Scal, Tony, Eddie, Pruitt, Giddens and Walker (all expiring) for Curry (who we can move next offseason), Gallinari and the #8 pick

Then the Knicks can give David Lee his money and still have enough money to probably sign 3 max contract guys in 2010.

[lon3lytoaster]

Boris Diaw is interesting, I even liked him back when he spent a little time with Atlanta, and he would actually fill a few voids by himself. Backup 3, and a four, actually and length. My only concern is that he hasn't quite been the same player since he got that fat contract from Phoenix. His rebounding and assist numbers are down from his MIP year, and he was having a pretty mediocre year until he got traded to Charlotte, and he still didn't put up his numbers from his first year in Phoenix, with more minutes. He actually increased his turnovers by almost two, as well.

Nevertheless, certainly an option to look at.

[Lucky17]

I had an idea I was discussing with Roy that I'll just dump into this thread too. 

What's New York's situation like?  If they resign David Lee how much cap room are they looking at in the summer of 2010 (where the rumor has been that Bron, Wade and Bosh could all decide to come play there)?  Eddie Curry's 10 mil is still a small problem, right?  How badly do they want to get rid of Eddie Curry's 10 mil?  Bad enough to give up the #8 pick in order to dump Curry for 10 mil in 2010 expirings?

Offer them Scal, Tony, Eddie, Pruitt, Giddens and Walker (all expiring) for Curry (who we can move next offseason), Gallinari and the #8 pick

Then the Knicks can give David Lee his money and still have enough money to probably sign 3 max contract guys in 2010.

I don't think NY attaches both Gallinari and the #8 to move Curry. And I'm not even sure I'd want that package in return for our expirings.

NY also has Jared Jeffries signed for this next season and a PO for the following. He's no great shakes, but he could be an option for us off the bench. NY would probably have to sweeten the deal a little bit.

[LarBrd33]

I had an idea I was discussing with Roy that I'll just dump into this thread too. 

What's New York's situation like?  If they resign David Lee how much cap room are they looking at in the summer of 2010 (where the rumor has been that Bron, Wade and Bosh could all decide to come play there)?  Eddie Curry's 10 mil is still a small problem, right?  How badly do they want to get rid of Eddie Curry's 10 mil?  Bad enough to give up the #8 pick in order to dump Curry for 10 mil in 2010 expirings?

Offer them Scal, Tony, Eddie, Pruitt, Giddens and Walker (all expiring) for Curry (who we can move next offseason), Gallinari and the #8 pick

Then the Knicks can give David Lee his money and still have enough money to probably sign 3 max contract guys in 2010.

I don't think NY attaches both Gallinari and the #8 to move Curry. And I'm not even sure I'd want that package in return for our expirings.

NY also has Jared Jeffries signed for this next season and a PO for the following. He's no great shakes, but he could be an option for us off the bench. NY would probably have to sweeten the deal a little bit.

Probably true that NY wouldn't do it, but I'd still offer it. 

Maybe throw in a future 1st.  They could have 3 young prospects (giddens, walker, pruitt) + a future protected 1st... and we do them a favor of taking Curry off their hands.  The #8 pick in a weak draft isn't that spectacular.  And Gallinari is nothing but a project right now.

[KungPoweChicken]

I had an idea I was discussing with Roy that I'll just dump into this thread too. 

What's New York's situation like?  If they resign David Lee how much cap room are they looking at in the summer of 2010 (where the rumor has been that Bron, Wade and Bosh could all decide to come play there)?  Eddie Curry's 10 mil is still a small problem, right?  How badly do they want to get rid of Eddie Curry's 10 mil?  Bad enough to give up the #8 pick in order to dump Curry for 10 mil in 2010 expirings?

Offer them Scal, Tony, Eddie, Pruitt, Giddens and Walker (all expiring) for Curry (who we can move next offseason), Gallinari and the #8 pick

Then the Knicks can give David Lee his money and still have enough money to probably sign 3 max contract guys in 2010.

How badly do we want the #8 pick? These are the #8 picks since the year 2000: Crawford, Diop, Wilcox, Ford, Araujo, Frye, Gay, Wright, and Alexander. Thus far, Wright and Alexander have been busts. Araujo was never a NBA talent. No one really knows how or why he was picked so high. Wilcox and Frye are end of the bench players. Diop has been a decent backup sometimes. Ford is a pretty good point guard, but he's always hurt. The only players you can classify as "good" are Crawford and Gay. My point is, historically, the #8 pick guarantees squat. Even if we were lucky enough to get a good player--like a Gay--he might not even contribute his first year. I don't think the potential reward of finding a good player at #8, which historically seems hard to do, is worth swallowing Curry's contract and attitude. I do, however, like the creativity.

[guava_wrench]

Scal, Tony Allen, Giddens, and Pruitt to OKC for Earl Watson and Damien Wilkins.

Scal gets bought out and returns to Boston for vet min money.

You've got your backup PG and SF right there. Bonus: both are in final years of their current contracts, so they could conceivably be flipped during mid-season if someone better becomes available.

It's annoying when you can add a player in the ESPN trade machine.

[youcanthandlethetruth113]

Golden State has said they will look to trade Crawford if he exercises his option. If I were Danny, I would look to package Scal, TA, and Giddens for him. Crawford could backup Rondo and Allen. He can score with the best of them. He would keep defenses honest when Rondo goes out of the game--if he's playing the point.

Why does Scal get thrown in to every trade? The man brings a unique skillset to the table and is extremely undervalued/unappreciated IMO.

[Mr October]

I had an idea I was discussing with Roy that I'll just dump into this thread too. 

What's New York's situation like?  If they resign David Lee how much cap room are they looking at in the summer of 2010 (where the rumor has been that Bron, Wade and Bosh could all decide to come play there)?  Eddie Curry's 10 mil is still a small problem, right?  How badly do they want to get rid of Eddie Curry's 10 mil?  Bad enough to give up the #8 pick in order to dump Curry for 10 mil in 2010 expirings?

That is a very good question.... Are the Knicks planning to keep David Lee. If they do, they can only make a run at 1 MAX FA (and 1 in the 10 mil per tier). If they let Lee go, or ship Curry out of town, the Knicks can make a run at 2 MAX FAs.

They should try to keep Lee and move Curry. If they move the #8 pick, they'll need to get something else back besides cap relief. Maybe just a future 1st rnd pick would do it.

[BballTim]

Golden State has said they will look to trade Crawford if he exercises his option. If I were Danny, I would look to package Scal, TA, and Giddens for him. Crawford could backup Rondo and Allen. He can score with the best of them. He would keep defenses honest when Rondo goes out of the game--if he's playing the point.

Why does Scal get thrown in to every trade? The man brings a unique skillset to the table and is extremely undervalued/unappreciated IMO.

  Most trades don't work without Scal's salary. The team has a few huge contracts, a bunch of tiny contracts and not much in the middle.

[jchen1731]

Scal, Tony Allen, Giddens, and Pruitt to OKC for Earl Watson and Damien Wilkins.

Not super excited about watson and wilkins... none of them has been a proven player on a playoff team and neither one has a jump shot or defense!