Danny has quite a bit of blame to fail us to repeat

[Tr1boy]

As i'm watching the lakers vs denver i'm scratching my head as to how danny didn't sign the birdman. He is a legit 7 footer, very active and hasn't made dumb mistakes. (actually has some good skills)

He would have made a difference day and night for our bench and to fend off guys like tyrus thomas, noah and even howard when perk needed rest. (imagine perk and birdman making howards life miserable?)

In addition poseys replacement that was tony allen was a failed experiment. Once again 'im looking at denver's dantay jones and scratching my head. The guy is a legit 6'7 sf, has posey like active defensive capabilities and would of helped tremendously guarding guys like lewis and torkulu.

When you get a chance to repeat it is important to sacrifice the teams long term future to try to get to dynasty status. Not saying what danny did for us last year is taken lightly but even without kg with guys like the birdman and jones, that could of made a difference of night and day in giving us a chance to repeat.

Next year danny needs help us get impact players(not POB)so we can win it again before ray allen leaves, and pierce/kg get too old for the league to make a difference.

[Roy Hobbs]

Andersen would have been much better than either POB or Mikki.  However, having him on the team wouldn't have made a huge difference in terms of our ability to repeat, in my opinion.  Once KG went down, it just wasn't going to happen.

I agree with you that when the opportunity to win a championship is there, the team should be more concerned about the present than the distant future.  In Danny's defense, neither Andersen nor Jones was a sure thing.  However, he misjudged the off-season, and his plan -- such that it was -- was a failure in the short term.

[dlpin]

I can't blame Ainge for not signing the Birdman. He showed up out of shape for his try outs, and honestly, who thought he would turn out the way he did?

[Fafnir]

Unless he took a bat to KG's knee he is not responsible for our failure to repeat.

He clearly could have done better in the off season. But without a healthy KG we were not getting to the Finals, much less repeating.

[Tr1boy]

Imo even with just anderson we would have beat the bulls and magic in 6 games

We barely had any offensive rebounds while teams like the magic all multiple second chances. Anderson definitely would have given us at least 3 offensive rebounds which could result in 6 points which makes a huge difference in the outcome of a playoff game.

On defense players like torkulu and lewis had the security if the three point shot was not there to drive in and score layups. While perk did all he could , he was busy on howard and the lane was pretty much open.

He would have made a difference hobbs, he is so active and plays hard. Like you said danny's risk didn't pay off, worst part about all of this was that andersen and jones were so close of being signed by us and wanted to play for us

[Fafnir]

You're assuming he could have become the same player in Boston as he was in Denver. He has a support network there, very important for someone with his issues.

He might have made a difference in the first round. But against the Magic I just don't see it. They'd still have had the better team, and Andersen doesn't change the core mismatches that Rashard, Hedo, and Howard present us.

Additionally his leaping and help defense would be of much less value against Dwight Howard.

[Casperian]

You could say the same about James Posey, but it`s just not true.
KG´s injury was the sole reason why we didn`t repeat, imo.
No Posey and no Birdman could`ve changed that.
Sure, someone like Posey could have spelled Pierce and Ray during the regular season, and maybe they wouldn`t have been that tired. Maybe they would`ve made it to the ECF.

But all this talk is moot, and contains too many "If`s" for my taste.
Bottom line: No KG, no championsjip.

[Thruthelookingglass]

Unless he took a bat to KG's knee he is not responsible for our failure to repeat.

He clearly could have done better in the off season. But without a healthy KG we were not getting to the Finals, much less repeating.

I'll go you one further.  If it hadn't been for Ainge, we never would have won last year's championship and this whole thread would be moot about where we placed in the lottery.

Had to edit this since Casperian said it was moot too.  Thanks Casperian.  Really.   

[Moranis]

You could say the same about James Posey, but it`s just not true.
KG´s injury was the sole reason why we didn`t repeat, imo.
No Posey and no Birdman could`ve changed that.
Sure, someone like Posey could have spelled Pierce and Ray during the regular season, and maybe they wouldn`t have been that tired. Maybe they would`ve made it to the ECF.

But all this talk is moot, and contains too many "If`s" for my taste.
Bottom line: No KG, no championsjip.

I'm sorry, we don't get by cleveland even with KG if the bench remains the same.  Cleveland was better than the C's all year long and that would not change in the playoffs.  Even assuming by some miracle we get by cleveland, we would be underdogs in the finals against the Lakers, and would have been a terrible matchup against them.  denver would be a different story, but still not an easy victory.

The C's bench lacks depth, lacks impact players, and is filled with mostly inconsistent players that once a series may decide to show up (davis being the exception, but if KG plays, he doesn't mature nearly as much as he did).

[Casperian]

You could say the same about James Posey, but it`s just not true.
KG´s injury was the sole reason why we didn`t repeat, imo.
No Posey and no Birdman could`ve changed that.
Sure, someone like Posey could have spelled Pierce and Ray during the regular season, and maybe they wouldn`t have been that tired. Maybe they would`ve made it to the ECF.

But all this talk is moot, and contains too many "If`s" for my taste.
Bottom line: No KG, no championsjip.

I'm sorry, we don't get by cleveland even with KG if the bench remains the same.  Cleveland was better than the C's all year long and that would not change in the playoffs.  Even assuming by some miracle we get by cleveland, we would be underdogs in the finals against the Lakers, and would have been a terrible matchup against them.  denver would be a different story, but still not an easy victory.

The C´s were on pace for a record season before KG was injured. Why you think they would have no chance against the Lakers or Cavs with KG healthy is beyond me.

[CoachBo]

You could say the same about James Posey, but it`s just not true.
KG´s injury was the sole reason why we didn`t repeat, imo.
No Posey and no Birdman could`ve changed that.
Sure, someone like Posey could have spelled Pierce and Ray during the regular season, and maybe they wouldn`t have been that tired. Maybe they would`ve made it to the ECF.

But all this talk is moot, and contains too many "If`s" for my taste.
Bottom line: No KG, no championsjip.

Actually, the biggest jeopardy we face going into this off-season is an over-reliance on the injury excuse. If management doesn't recognize what it failed - miserably - to accomplish during the off-season and the deadline, we won't be in any position to contend next season, either.

It's more than just injuries. It's no depth whatsoever - and I disagree about the failure to add a competent 3 off the bench.

In fact, IMO, we don't beat Cleveland with KG and Powe. At least we get there. But we don't win, and the proof was in watching a worn-down and beaten-up Pierce in the Orlando series.

When we dealt for Garnett and Ray, we put ourselves in a position where it was essential to add reserves who could help compensate for lost court time, given the age of the Big 3. We had some of that last year, and we had none of that this year. IMO, again, if Ainge and Grousbeck use the injuries to rationalize their lack of performance over the last year, you can scratch next year off your list, too. Injuries are a factor in the early end to this season, but they are not the only factor.

No bench, no title.

[Casperian]

You could say the same about James Posey, but it`s just not true.
KG´s injury was the sole reason why we didn`t repeat, imo.
No Posey and no Birdman could`ve changed that.
Sure, someone like Posey could have spelled Pierce and Ray during the regular season, and maybe they wouldn`t have been that tired. Maybe they would`ve made it to the ECF.

But all this talk is moot, and contains too many "If`s" for my taste.
Bottom line: No KG, no championsjip.

Actually, the biggest jeopardy we face going into this off-season is an over-reliance on the injury excuse. If management doesn't recognize what it failed - miserably - to accomplish during the off-season and the deadline, we won't be in any position to contend next season, either.

It's more than just injuries. It's no depth whatsoever - and I disagree about the failure to add a competent 3 off the bench.

In fact, IMO, we don't beat Cleveland with KG and Powe. At least we get there. But we don't win, and the proof was in watching a worn-down and beaten-up Pierce in the Orlando series.

No bench, no title.

As you might recall, I was advocating all year for a better backup three, exactly for that reason. I just think it´s moot to talk about a "what if" scenario. I mean, who would´ve thought that we take the Magic to seven games without KG?
I strongly believe we beat the Cavs with a healthy KG, and that´s why there´s no point in crying about spilled milk.

[CoachBo]

You could say the same about James Posey, but it`s just not true.
KG´s injury was the sole reason why we didn`t repeat, imo.
No Posey and no Birdman could`ve changed that.
Sure, someone like Posey could have spelled Pierce and Ray during the regular season, and maybe they wouldn`t have been that tired. Maybe they would`ve made it to the ECF.

But all this talk is moot, and contains too many "If`s" for my taste.
Bottom line: No KG, no championsjip.

Actually, the biggest jeopardy we face going into this off-season is an over-reliance on the injury excuse. If management doesn't recognize what it failed - miserably - to accomplish during the off-season and the deadline, we won't be in any position to contend next season, either.

It's more than just injuries. It's no depth whatsoever - and I disagree about the failure to add a competent 3 off the bench.

In fact, IMO, we don't beat Cleveland with KG and Powe. At least we get there. But we don't win, and the proof was in watching a worn-down and beaten-up Pierce in the Orlando series.

No bench, no title.

As you might recall, I was advocating all year for a better backup three, exactly for that reason. I just think it´s moot to talk about a "what if" scenario. I mean, who would´ve thought that we take the Magic to seven games without KG?
I strongly believe we beat the Cavs with a healthy KG, and that´s why there´s no point in crying about spilled milk.

That's where we differ, I suppose. If KG's healthy, he's blown out, minutes-wise, and we suffer as a result. Davis might have helped mitigate that some, but he wasn't really making a splash pre-injury.

I felt - and said here - that we would not repeat in August after it was apparent management was downsizing the bench to save money, and I've seen nothing since to change my mind. The seeds for the early end of this season were sown with management's unwillingness to commit to a championship-caliber roster.

And I'll say the same for next year: No competent 3, no help at the 4 and 5, and you can scratch next year off your list too, regardless of KG's health. Add a McDyess, and trade for a versatile 3 who can do all the things Posey did - interesting to hear Doc admit that he needs a defender and outside shooter from the 3 yesterday, and the picture changes.

But if you don't fill those voids, nah. Not going to happen.

[xmuscularghandix]

Posey's replacement was by commitee, Leon Powe was also considered part of that. I think Danny did a pretty good job, POB just didn't hold up and it's not like you know someones going to be a big lazy goon, some players would work extra hard with that type of scenery change.

[2short]

I think with powe we would have been in ecf.  With garnett finals.
danny is why we have a banner 
posey resigning would have handcuffed us AND he didn't do so hot on his new team, yes we could have used his size & skill set but kg's injury is the main reason

side note he's still young