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Celtics would be silly NOT to resign Marbury
« on: May 18, 2009, 11:23:10 PM »

Offline vagrantwade

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If he would resign for 1-2 million.

You know if he goes elsewhere he will easily get around 5 million if not more. I understand some Celtics fans expected more in 8 minutes off the bench from a guy who had an ankle injury, came back to a lousy Knicks team, played a bit off the bench, was exiled from the team, and was then off for a year, but Marbury has a high basketball IQ. And he is also in amazing physical(not necessarily basketball) shape.

Plus Marbury just cashed in 20 million for basically nothing, and has expressed desire to stay with Boston.

And for those who keep saying we should put Eddie House at the backup 1 spot...well then you better pray and beg to god that nothing ever happens to Rondo but if something does, our season would be in extreme jeopardy. And I don't know who we would be able to acquire during the season to fill a backup or starting PG role.

Re: Celtics would be silly NOT to resign Marbury
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2009, 11:25:35 PM »

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Good post. This is, by far, my favorite bench Celtic. I don't why, but I've come to like this player. Hopefully, with a full training camp with us, he resigns with us and comes back as good as ever.

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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2009, 11:29:44 PM »

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Marbury for half a season was one thing



Taking the chance he doesn't self implode over a full season, not a good idea.

Re: Celtics would be silly NOT to resign Marbury
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2009, 11:35:21 PM »

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Marbury for half a season was one thing



Taking the chance he doesn't self implode over a full season, not a good idea.

Why would he self implode? When has he ever self imploded?

Re: Celtics would be silly NOT to resign Marbury
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2009, 11:35:37 PM »

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You know if he goes elsewhere he will easily get around 5 million if not more.

Out of curiosity, why do you feel this way?

From my perspective, Starbury played fairly poorly in Boston (although he improved in the playoffs).  He didn't look like a guy who could be a starter any more. 

In addition, he has a history of attitude problems, which GMs haven't forgotten about; last season, a grand total of two teams were interested (Boston and Miami).

Lastly, the economy is in the tank and teams are feeling it.  The salary cap and luxury tax are contracting.  It's expected that a lot of star players will have to settle for the MLE or less.

Due to all of the above factors, I can't imagine Starbury coming close to $5 million per season.  That would be a terrible deal for whatever team signed him.

However, at a sub-$2 million deal, I'd have him back for a year.  His attitude with the Celtics was good, and as mentioned, he was showing some improvement.

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Re: Celtics would be silly NOT to resign Marbury
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2009, 11:37:45 PM »

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When has he ever self imploded?

Pretty much his entire career with the Knicks, for starters.  Didn't he come to blows with his GM?  Wasn't he asked to essentially sit out an entire season?  I mean, it's one thing to be a fan of the guy; it's quite another to completely ignore this guy's history.

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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2009, 11:44:26 PM »

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From this post-season I'm more concerned about Rondo imploding next season than Marbury. I think we are heading into a time in Rondo's career where he acts like the Stephon of the past. More interested in self promotion than team basketball. The classic NBA primadonna. Where as Steph has few chances left and hopefully has come to terms with his role on a NBA squad.
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2009, 11:48:01 PM »

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When has he ever self imploded?

Pretty much his entire career with the Knicks, for starters.  Didn't he come to blows with his GM?  Wasn't he asked to essentially sit out an entire season?  I mean, it's one thing to be a fan of the guy; it's quite another to completely ignore this guy's history.

Oh you mean after they threw him under the bus because he hurt Isiah's sexual harassment case because he admitted to having an affair with someone not related?

I mean I don't live near NYC so I don't actually get the biased BS news material that they put in the post.

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From my perspective, Starbury played fairly poorly in Boston (although he improved in the playoffs).  He didn't look like a guy who could be a starter any more.

You're perspective is either distorted, or you are blatantly ignoring the fact that he was out for a year and missed training camp, and jumped in with 20ish games left in the season.

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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2009, 11:58:57 PM »

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When has he ever self imploded?

Pretty much his entire career with the Knicks, for starters.  Didn't he come to blows with his GM?  Wasn't he asked to essentially sit out an entire season?  I mean, it's one thing to be a fan of the guy; it's quite another to completely ignore this guy's history.

Oh you mean after they threw him under the bus because he hurt Isiah's sexual harassment case because he admitted to having an affair with someone not related?

I mean I don't live near NYC so I don't actually get the biased BS news material that they put in the post.

What about the problems he had with Larry Brown, then?  I'm sure that will be explained away, as well.  What about him forcing his way off of two other teams?  More excuses.

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From my perspective, Starbury played fairly poorly in Boston (although he improved in the playoffs).  He didn't look like a guy who could be a starter any more.

You're perspective is either distorted, or you are blatantly ignoring the fact that he was out for a year and missed training camp, and jumped in with 20ish games left in the season.

I said I'd take a flyer on him, but if you think Starbury played well in Boston overall, you're simply dead wrong.  Starbury averaged 3.8 points and 3.3 assists on 34.2% shooting.  He was last on the team in points per minute, had the second worst shooting percentage on the team, and ranked third in turnovers per minute (behind POB and Giddens).  That's not playing well, by any stretch of the imagination. 

I think you may want to take a step back, and decide which one of us has a "distorted" view of things.  I'm guessing it's the guy with the Starbury avatar.

EDIT:  More stats about his quality of play:

Games (regular season and playoffs) Starbury shot at or above .500: 7

Games (regular season and playoffs) Starbury shot at or below .333:  24
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Re: Celtics would be silly NOT to resign Marbury
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2009, 12:09:49 AM »

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We have to keep Starbury if we can do that for $1-$2 million.  He is a former really great player and he improved with us as the season goes on.  Plus he has speed he looked fast in the last games of the playoffs.  We are not going to get a better player at that price.  STARBURY IS THE BEST!!

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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2009, 12:17:59 AM »

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Well Steph has publicly said in years past after his contracts up hes going to play in europe and aparently he's gonna listen to European offers  :(

Re: Celtics would be silly NOT to resign Marbury
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2009, 02:58:31 AM »

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We need to end the Marbury experiment: He had enough time to get his act together, but he showed me nothing in the playoffs--outside of a few good offensive spurts. Moreover, I don't trust this dude's head for a full season. Things would have been different had KG been healthy; however, we were banged up and Steph didn't work out. It's time to cut our losses. There's no shame in that. Marbury's team attitude and selflessness was admirable, but in my opinion, it didn't equate to good basketball play. I like Marbury's slashing ability and defensive aggressiveness (though I doubt he would sustain that level of intensity for a full season). I'd prefer a backup point with a better shot and one who is less turnover prone.
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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2009, 05:14:13 AM »

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 Depends upon how much $ he wants. I think he may have tried to fit into the "team" concept a little too much though. Passed up a lot of open looks.

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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2009, 06:57:15 AM »

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I'd definitely take him back. In fact I want him back. He showed that he could play in this team, he was happy and in the playoffs he improved. With a summer under his belt with a team I expect him to continue this improvement.

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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2009, 07:16:29 AM »

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I would really like to see Marbury back. He formed good chemistry with House in a very short period of time after a long rest. An Off-season of shooting J's and regaining his conditioning would see us with a pretty decent Backup pointguard in an offseason with hardly any PG options (I think it's safe to say Andre Miller, Bibby and Kidd will resign with their respective teams, Kidd maybe a sign and trade).

We need to use our money to sign a backup center and if possible, a backup shooting guard. Why not take the added stress out of finding a 2nd string PG and resign someone who wants to play for the C's for very little money?