Celtics would be silly NOT to resign Marbury

[crownsy]

I would really like to see Marbury back. He formed good chemistry with House in a very short period of time after a long rest. An Off-season of shooting J's and regaining his conditioning would see us with a pretty decent Backup pointguard in an offseason with hardly any PG options (I think it's safe to say Andre Miller, Bibby and Kidd will resign with their respective teams, Kidd maybe a sign and trade).

We need to use our money to sign a backup center and if possible, a backup shooting guard. Why not take the added stress out of finding a 2nd string PG and resign someone who wants to play for the C's for very little money?

Yea but given his comments in the globe about wanting more minutes if he stayed, are you comfortable with him going from the 15 or so he had a night to 20+ as a 6th man?

I'm pretty sure im not, and i don't trust steph to stay a good teammate if that doesn't happen.

[2short]

the celtics would be silly TO resign marbury
he simply isn't that good anymore, if he ever was
he'll go where the most money is and he can jackshots to make himself think he is still nba all star caliber
greece?

[CoachBo]

When has he ever self imploded?

Pretty much his entire career with the Knicks, for starters.  Didn't he come to blows with his GM?  Wasn't he asked to essentially sit out an entire season?  I mean, it's one thing to be a fan of the guy; it's quite another to completely ignore this guy's history.

Oh you mean after they threw him under the bus because he hurt Isiah's sexual harassment case because he admitted to having an affair with someone not related?

I mean I don't live near NYC so I don't actually get the biased BS news material that they put in the post.

What about the problems he had with Larry Brown, then?  I'm sure that will be explained away, as well.  What about him forcing his way off of two other teams?  More excuses.

From my perspective, Starbury played fairly poorly in Boston (although he improved in the playoffs).  He didn't look like a guy who could be a starter any more.

You're perspective is either distorted, or you are blatantly ignoring the fact that he was out for a year and missed training camp, and jumped in with 20ish games left in the season.

I said I'd take a flyer on him, but if you think Starbury played well in Boston overall, you're simply dead wrong.  Starbury averaged 3.8 points and 3.3 assists on 34.2% shooting.  He was last on the team in points per minute, had the second worst shooting percentage on the team, and ranked third in turnovers per minute (behind POB and Giddens).  That's not playing well, by any stretch of the imagination. 

I think you may want to take a step back, and decide which one of us has a "distorted" view of things.  I'm guessing it's the guy with the Starbury avatar.

EDIT:  More stats about his quality of play:

Games (regular season and playoffs) Starbury shot at or above .500: 7

Games (regular season and playoffs) Starbury shot at or below .333:  24

At absolute best, Marbury is a highly marginal re-sign, and I have absolutely no interest in him whatsoever for a dime more than the absolute minimum. If there's any NBA team stupid enough to pay him $5 million for the gas-less game he brought to Boston, God bless them, they can have him.

The ONLY thing I saw from him that I really liked was defensive effort. He made me cringe Rondo-style every time he rose for a jumper, and he actually hit that jumper less often than even Rondo.

I'm also not at all interested in promising him more minutes. He did very little in Boston to earn them.

[winsomme]

I don't have a problem bringing Marbury back, I think he was just getting his nose for driving to the basket back right at the end there. But I also think this playoffs confirmed that with Rondo, backup PG is not a hugely impactful position on our team.

the backup PG is simply not going to get much PT unless there is an injury to Rondo.

going along with that, I'm not sure Mar is gonna want to come back here only to get 12 MPG...With Eddie at backup SG and sometimes PG, the minutes just aren't there.

the need for us is a player that can play SF/PF....a guy like Pose that can defend the 3, knock down 3s and long enough to move over to the PF when we want to go small or as with the Magic need a big who can defend the perimeter....

to me, the majority of energy needs to be focused on getting that position filled.

backup PG is just not as high on the list to me. but if Mar wants to play here for short money, I don't have a problem with that. I think he was solid and getting better in the role.

[moiso]

I'd take him back for a puny salary I suppose.  I'm glad more people are finally seeing him for what he is.  He's an average back up at this point.  He's not an allstar, he's not a starter, and he's not even a high scoring bench player.  He's better than Pruitt, but I'm not sure if he's better than Anthony Johnson types who we could also sign for Marbury's role.

[jackson_34]

I would really like to see Marbury back. He formed good chemistry with House in a very short period of time after a long rest. An Off-season of shooting J's and regaining his conditioning would see us with a pretty decent Backup pointguard in an offseason with hardly any PG options (I think it's safe to say Andre Miller, Bibby and Kidd will resign with their respective teams, Kidd maybe a sign and trade).

We need to use our money to sign a backup center and if possible, a backup shooting guard. Why not take the added stress out of finding a 2nd string PG and resign someone who wants to play for the C's for very little money?

Yea but given his comments in the globe about wanting more minutes if he stayed, are you comfortable with him going from the 15 or so he had a night to 20+ as a 6th man?

I'm pretty sure im not, and i don't trust steph to stay a good teammate if that doesn't happen.

If he can improve his production through a normal offseason and training camp (which I'm sure will happen), I'd be fine with an increase in his minutes. I don't think there is much of a risk having him on a low contract with the team we currently have. We have some strong personalities in the squad sure, but it's a mature team with only winning on their minds (unlike the Knicks who had a whole team of shady characters).I can't see KG, Pierce or Allen letting Marbury bring the team into disripute, and I think Steph really does respect Doc and the coaching staff a great deal.

EDIT: Just to make clear I wouldn't want any of our MLE to be used to resign him, there are obviously more pressing issues to resolve on the roster...

[Casperian]

Thanks, but no thanks.

He´s not the only PG in the league who can play as a backup for this team, and I still don´t trust his mindset over a full season.

You can easily replace what Marbury brought this season with a cheaper player, imo.

I think people overrate Marbury´s play because we haven´t had a real backup PG for years, so it seems as if he brings a dimension to this team that they´ve lacked in the last years, when in reality, there are many players who can run this team just as good (if not better) when Rondo is out.

Why risk what we got here for a headcase like Marbury?
Yeah, he behaved in the three months he was here. He had no choice.

He played poorly most of the time, and without any confidence. We don´t need a shooter that passes up wide open shots, plays bad defense and could implode any time.

[cordobes]

If it was Will Solomon playing like Marbury did, would people be in favour of keeping him? Personally, I don't think so.

I don't like the assumption that Marbury will be much better next season. Perhaps he will. But why run that kind of risk?

And if we keep Marbury, what are we going to do with House? Play him at the 2? That doesn't work; it didn't work, it will never work consistently. Not playing House? We need his 3PT shooting, Marbury isn't enough of a shooter. 

If Ainge wants a top 3rd string point-guard, able to manufacture offence in limited minutes, good enough to play 20mpg in case Rondo gets injured, talk to McIntyre's agent. Good defender, terrific shooter, good passer, good penetrator; he's leaps and bounds better than guys like Pargo or Tyrone Lue.

[winsomme]

If it was Will Solomon playing like Marbury did, would people be in favour of keeping him? Personally, I don't think so.

I don't like the assumption that Marbury will be much better next season. Perhaps he will. But why run that kind of risk?

And if we keep Marbury, what are we going to do with House? Play him at the 2? That doesn't work; it didn't work, it will never work consistently. Not playing House? We need his 3PT shooting, Marbury isn't enough of a shooter. 

If Ainge wants a top 3rd string point-guard, able to manufacture offence in limited minutes, good enough to play 20mpg in case Rondo gets injured, talk to McIntyre's agent. Good defender, terrific shooter, good passer, good penetrator; he's leaps and bounds better than guys like Pargo or Tyrone Lue.

i could go either way on Mar, mostly because backup PG is not a huge need in my book. Like you said, Eddie can fill the bill and i like his shooting.

the only way backup PG becomes important is an injury to Rondo, but in that case you're in trouble anyway.

[papa shuttlesworth]

I was all for bringing Marbury back until I read this thread and now I'm on the fence.

I thought he did a good job with his role and liked his fit with the team MUCH better than Cassell.  I think giving him training camp and time to shake off the rust would result in a big improvement and would be great.

But as was mentioned before, if you remove the name and just look at the numbers (or replace the name with Will Solomon), then it appears he can be replaced more cheaply.

But then again, Marbury's ceiling is much higher than Solomon's (although Boston will sadly never know how great Will could have been in green).

So I don't know.  I'm torn.

[bknova]

Marbury was a drastic improvement from Sam Cassel, except that he had problems with his jumper.  Other than that, he was drive and dish.  As long as the money makes sense, why wouldn't we re-sign him?  Once that jumpshot comes back, he could be competing for 6th man of the year.

[wiley]

Okay, we're definitely not into Marbury on this thread.  Like the last poster this thread has melted my optimism about Steff, whose attitude and defense I liked.  I also don't think he's aged all that much.  If he was that old his defense would have sucked, but it didn't, and he was starting to show water-bug like moments on offense.

However, via this thread I've come to believe we need a better outside shooter.  Sign Marbury for pouco dinheiro and send him with Pruitt to Detroit for Will Bynum.  What do you mean they wouldn't do that

[guava_wrench]

We have to keep Starbury if we can do that for $1-$2 million.  He is a former really great player and he improved with us as the season goes on.  Plus he has speed he looked fast in the last games of the playoffs.  We are not going to get a better player at that price.  STARBURY IS THE BEST!!

I can't take seriously the evalution of anyone who says in all caps that the player they are evaluating "IS THE BEST".

Should we resign Marbury? It depends upon the price and what is available.

[PSquared]

I would welcome Marbury being re-signed under one condition :

GET ANOTHER NUMBER!    I felt ill whenever I saw him desecrate the "employee #8" jersey by simply appearing on my TV screen.  Antoine busted his azz for this franchise during its down years and to have this adulterous, coach-killing doofus wear THAT number is downright insulting.  


Marbury, come back...but leave the #8 where it belongs...with Antoine.

[housecall]

Thanks, but no thanks.

He´s not the only PG in the league who can play as a backup for this team, and I still don´t trust his mindset over a full season.

You can easily replace what Marbury brought this season with a cheaper player, imo.

I think people overrate Marbury´s play because we haven´t had a real backup PG for years, so it seems as if he brings a dimension to this team that they´ve lacked in the last years, when in reality, there are many players who can run this team just as good (if not better) when Rondo is out.

Why risk what we got here for a headcase like Marbury?
Yeah, he behaved in the three months he was here. He had no choice.

He played poorly most of the time, and without any confidence. We don´t need a shooter that passes up wide open shots, plays bad defense and could implode any time.

TP...I was thinking the same way about the mindset of Marbury over a full season will probably be much different from the guy we had for 3mos.Also,as you say we can pick up just as good if not better in the offseason.I agree with your post 100%.Get out while you are ahead is the bottom line.