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Rondo's value this summer - resign? trade? wait?

resign to the MAX
1 (2.3%)
resign at $12 mil per year
6 (13.6%)
resign at $10 mil per year
13 (29.5%)
resign at $8 mil per year
11 (25%)
trade him now while his value is high
6 (13.6%)
playout the 09/10 season, then decide
7 (15.9%)

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Re: Rondo's value this summer
« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2009, 01:07:51 PM »

Offline crownsy

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I'm voting to trade him while his value is high. I know the guy can play. He's a triple double treat whenever he's on the floor, BUT there's just something about his attitude I don't get. He played great, all-star level even in the bulls series. Than he played like he was totally disinterested in this series. I can't even put my finger on it. It was just the way he was acting on the court. I don't know how to explain it, but it almosr seemed like he would rather be anywhere else. Maybe it's just his demenor but there's just something not right about it.

I think part of the problem/pattern is that he just wants to play at the level of his individual opponent. He really gets up for games against Rose, Paul, D Williams, Parker, Kidd, Nash, etc. Against Alston, he probably coasted a little more. :-/

  Orlando had the top defense in the league this year. Chicago had the worst defense of any team that made the playoffs.

So, is your point that it was the Magic's defense that was the reason he didn't play as well in that series? If that is your point I might have to disagree. If anything, he should have had a better series as Orlando doubled off him almost every time down the floor. They dared him to shoot. I didn't see it as the Magic's defense as much as some king of weird attatude he seems to get. Just watching him interact with the other players and coaches makes me wonder if he has some kind of problem with this team. I could very well just be reading too much into it>

yea, but Chicago dared him to shoot as well, the difference is the DPOY wasn't in the paint, so instead of shooting a J, he put derrick rose on his hip and toasted him on the way to the basket past two average shot blockers.

D-12, for all his offense problems, makes a tiny bit more difference than tyrus and the squirrel in the paint on drives.
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Re: Rondo's value this summer
« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2009, 01:11:33 PM »

Offline BballTim

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I'm voting to trade him while his value is high. I know the guy can play. He's a triple double treat whenever he's on the floor, BUT there's just something about his attitude I don't get. He played great, all-star level even in the bulls series. Than he played like he was totally disinterested in this series. I can't even put my finger on it. It was just the way he was acting on the court. I don't know how to explain it, but it almosr seemed like he would rather be anywhere else. Maybe it's just his demenor but there's just something not right about it.

I think part of the problem/pattern is that he just wants to play at the level of his individual opponent. He really gets up for games against Rose, Paul, D Williams, Parker, Kidd, Nash, etc. Against Alston, he probably coasted a little more. :-/

  Orlando had the top defense in the league this year. Chicago had the worst defense of any team that made the playoffs.

So, is your point that it was the Magic's defense that was the reason he didn't play as well in that series? If that is your point I might have to disagree. If anything, he should have had a better series as Orlando doubled off him almost every time down the floor. They dared him to shoot. I didn't see it as the Magic's defense as much as some king of weird attatude he seems to get. Just watching him interact with the other players and coaches makes me wonder if he has some kind of problem with this team. I could very well just be reading too much into it>

  Part of the reason was undoubtedly he was tired from averaging over 45 minutes a game vs Chicago. Another reason was that Orlando was doing a better job of getting back on defense as the series went on. But I don't see why you think that Orlando daring Rondo to shoot from the outside makes for Rondo having a great series as that's not what he's trying to do. He generally wants to either drive or pass and Orlando has the defensive player of the year under the basket.

Re: Rondo's value this summer
« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2009, 01:19:57 PM »

Offline celts55

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I'm voting to trade him while his value is high. I know the guy can play. He's a triple double treat whenever he's on the floor, BUT there's just something about his attitude I don't get. He played great, all-star level even in the bulls series. Than he played like he was totally disinterested in this series. I can't even put my finger on it. It was just the way he was acting on the court. I don't know how to explain it, but it almosr seemed like he would rather be anywhere else. Maybe it's just his demenor but there's just something not right about it.

I think part of the problem/pattern is that he just wants to play at the level of his individual opponent. He really gets up for games against Rose, Paul, D Williams, Parker, Kidd, Nash, etc. Against Alston, he probably coasted a little more. :-/

  Orlando had the top defense in the league this year. Chicago had the worst defense of any team that made the playoffs.

So, is your point that it was the Magic's defense that was the reason he didn't play as well in that series? If that is your point I might have to disagree. If anything, he should have had a better series as Orlando doubled off him almost every time down the floor. They dared him to shoot. I didn't see it as the Magic's defense as much as some king of weird attatude he seems to get. Just watching him interact with the other players and coaches makes me wonder if he has some kind of problem with this team. I could very well just be reading too much into it>

yea, but Chicago dared him to shoot as well, the difference is the DPOY wasn't in the paint, so instead of shooting a J, he put derrick rose on his hip and toasted him on the way to the basket past two average shot blockers.

D-12, for all his offense problems, makes a tiny bit more difference than tyrus and the squirrel in the paint on drives.

While I certainly agree that Howard is a dominate presence in the paint he does also go for the block shot quite a bit. I really didn't see Rondo trying to drive and kick, which is something I've also thought he has been excellent at. He spent a lot of time pounding the ball at the top of the key, waiting for something to devolop where before he seems to make things happen. My point was not so much that he had a bad series, or that he can't be a really good player, I just question his attitude/effort on occation. It appears to me there are times when he doesn't play with the intensity he does at other times, and in the playoffs is not a good time to let down on your effort. Again, I might just be reading too much into it, but sometimes I just don't think he cares.

Re: Rondo's value this summer
« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2009, 01:35:11 PM »

Offline youcanthandlethetruth113

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I'll start. Rondo brings a ton to the table. He is fast becoming a star. However he still has flaws - outside shot (medium or long range), immaturity / character issues.

I'd try to lock him up for $50/5 ($10 mil per year). He's too flawed offensively to go higher than that. Yet with the right players on the court with him, he can be amazing.

If he or his agent demand more, I play out the 09/10 season and then match, or sign and trade.


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Re: Rondo's value this summer
« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2009, 01:38:48 PM »

Offline acieEarl

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I'm voting to trade him while his value is high. I know the guy can play. He's a triple double treat whenever he's on the floor, BUT there's just something about his attitude I don't get. He played great, all-star level even in the bulls series. Than he played like he was totally disinterested in this series. I can't even put my finger on it. It was just the way he was acting on the court. I don't know how to explain it, but it almosr seemed like he would rather be anywhere else. Maybe it's just his demenor but there's just something not right about it.

I think part of the problem/pattern is that he just wants to play at the level of his individual opponent. He really gets up for games against Rose, Paul, D Williams, Parker, Kidd, Nash, etc. Against Alston, he probably coasted a little more. :-/

  Orlando had the top defense in the league this year. Chicago had the worst defense of any team that made the playoffs.

Yea, also Alston was playing way off Rondo, basically giving him the outside shot which he was just passing off. If he was going to score alot of points it was going to come off his jumpshot that they were giving him.

Sign him now. His value is only going to go up if we wait. Good PGs are hard to come by and I'd say he's a top 5 PG right now. He does too many other things then shoot well or better than most.