Rondo's value this summer

[Mr October]

Rondo's really taken some big steps forward during the regular and post season. But we've also seen glimpses of character issues.

If you signed him to an extension this summer, what would his value be?

Please elaborate in this thread.

[Mr October]

I'll start. Rondo brings a ton to the table. He is fast becoming a star. However he still has flaws - outside shot (medium or long range), immaturity / character issues.

I'd try to lock him up for $50/5 ($10 mil per year). He's too flawed offensively to go higher than that. Yet with the right players on the court with him, he can be amazing.

If he or his agent demand more, I play out the 09/10 season and then match, or sign and trade.

[Big Ticket]

I think somewhere in the $8-10 mil range would be appropriate, but that he'll get closer to the $10-12 mil range.

[Who]

I was hoping Rondo would be in the $8-10mil price range a couple of months ago ... but I think his strong play in the playoffs has easily put him in the $10+mil ball park.

I think they could keep it below the $12mil mark if Rondo is willing to take a little less money in order to (1) get a guaranteed long term contract this summer (2) to stay in Boston (3) to stay with a contender.

I think Rondo would stand a good chance at making more money the following summer if he choose to wait. Oh, and if he demands more than $12mil, then I think Danny should wait out the season because Rondo is a restricted free agent anyway.

[celts55]

I'm voting to trade him while his value is high. I know the guy can play. He's a triple double treat whenever he's on the floor, BUT there's just something about his attitude I don't get. He played great, all-star level even in the bulls series. Than he played like he was totally disinterested in this series. I can't even put my finger on it. It was just the way he was acting on the court. I don't know how to explain it, but it almosr seemed like he would rather be anywhere else. Maybe it's just his demenor but there's just something not right about it.

[cordobes]

It's hard to predict without knowing exactly what's the economic climate in the NBA and what will the clubs put in the table for the new CBA, but this Summer I wouldn't offer him more than a $45 millions/5 years contract.

I'm also worried about how many times his attitude/work ethic is questioned: from Tommy's remarks about him blowing lay-ups in practice to the fact that it took a bet with KG for him to start practising his shot, from arriving late to 2 home games in a playoff series to eating spicy food before a game. Anyway, no one better than Doc and Ainge know how serious this issue is (or is not).

[Mr October]

I'm voting to trade him while his value is high. I know the guy can play. He's a triple double treat whenever he's on the floor, BUT there's just something about his attitude I don't get. He played great, all-star level even in the bulls series. Than he played like he was totally disinterested in this series. I can't even put my finger on it. It was just the way he was acting on the court. I don't know how to explain it, but it almosr seemed like he would rather be anywhere else. Maybe it's just his demenor but there's just something not right about it.

I think part of the problem/pattern is that he just wants to play at the level of his individual opponent. He really gets up for games against Rose, Paul, D Williams, Parker, Kidd, Nash, etc. Against Alston, he probably coasted a little more. :-/

[bdm860]

Kirk Hinrich has a deal for about $9.5 mil per (5 years, $47.5) , and you know his agent would argue he's better then him.

The argument from his camp probably goes he deserves a contract in the Deron Williams (4 years, 70 million) and Chris Paul (4 years, $68 million) range, especially based on the playoffs and basically averaging a triple double.  The C's would argue he's not on that level.

Mo Williams and Jameer Nelson both seemed to break out after getting their contracts, so you probably can't compare Rondo's worth to theirs:

Mo Williams got 6 years, 51.5 million
Jameer Nelson got 5 years, about 33.6 miliion

Rondo is probably going to get something around $12 mil I'd say.

So quick rundown of other young point guards and their extensions after rookie contracts:
Deron Williams, 4yrs/$70M = $17.5 per year
Chris Paul, 4yrs/$68M = $17 per year
Kirk Hinrich, 5yrs/$47.5M = $9.5 per year
Mo Williams, 6yrs/$51.5M = $8.6M per year
Jameer Nelson, 5yrs/$33.6M = $6.7M per year

(my numbers may be a little off or inaccurate, just pulled from various websites)

[BballTim]

I'm voting to trade him while his value is high. I know the guy can play. He's a triple double treat whenever he's on the floor, BUT there's just something about his attitude I don't get. He played great, all-star level even in the bulls series. Than he played like he was totally disinterested in this series. I can't even put my finger on it. It was just the way he was acting on the court. I don't know how to explain it, but it almosr seemed like he would rather be anywhere else. Maybe it's just his demenor but there's just something not right about it.

I think part of the problem/pattern is that he just wants to play at the level of his individual opponent. He really gets up for games against Rose, Paul, D Williams, Parker, Kidd, Nash, etc. Against Alston, he probably coasted a little more. :-/

  Orlando had the top defense in the league this year. Chicago had the worst defense of any team that made the playoffs.

[greenwise]

Kirk Hinrich has a deal for about $9.5 mil per (5 years, $47.5) , and you know his agent would argue he's better then him.

The argument from his camp probably goes he deserves a contract in the Deron Williams (4 years, 70 million) and Chris Paul (4 years, $68 million) range, especially based on the playoffs and basically averaging a triple double.  The C's would argue he's not on that level.

Mo Williams and Jameer Nelson both seemed to break out after getting their contracts, so you probably can't compare Rondo's worth to theirs:

Mo Williams got 6 years, 51.5 million
Jameer Nelson got 5 years, about 33.6 miliion

Rondo is probably going to get something around $12 mil I'd say.

So quick rundown of other young point guards and their extensions after rookie contracts:
Deron Williams, 4yrs/$70M = $17.5 per year
Chris Paul, 4yrs/$68M = $17 per year
Kirk Hinrich, 5yrs/$47.5M = $9.5 per year
Mo Williams, 6yrs/$51.5M = $8.6M per year
Jameer Nelson, 5yrs/$33.6M = $6.7M per year

(my numbers may be a little off or inaccurate, just pulled from various websites)

TP for the research job

I don't think he deserves more than $10 million now, probably on the $12million after the Chicago series but his value dropped due to his inability to contain Alston and Johnson. His inconsistence shouldn't make him aspire to more than 10million now. If Danny managed to sign him to an extension like 5 years/45 million I would be more than satisfied

[jimmyt]

if rondo wants williams/paul numbers... there's the door. He needs to get a shot, and take some notes on leadership and attitude from pierce, ray, and KG, then we'll talk about a contract for more than $10 million per. [dang], Orlando got a steal with Nelson for that cheap...

[greenwise]

We could also use the example of Jose Calderon's extension last summer. He accepted a $45 million / 5 year offer for what i see..

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/toronto.htm

Calderon has lead the league in FTs, he is in the top 5 in assists and one of the best (if not the best, i don't remember well) in assist/per TO ratio.

Both Calderon and Rondo were possible All Stars in February. Whereas Rondo's contributions in the playoffs have made him more valuable than Calderon, the Spaniard has shown more impressive stats. I would say it's fair to offer Rajon a similar contract, or maybe slightly better but not much...

[MVP]

Something like 5 years/50M seems fair. He is a pg and that's probably the least paid position out there. How many pgs actually get paid the max? Starting next year I can only think of Paul and Williams. Arenas was going to get the max, but he took that pay cut. You also have to figure the economic conditions and the fact that Rondo is getting security by signing a year early. So I see 50-55M for 5 years if a contract is signed this off season.

[Mr October]

Something like 5 years/50M seems fair. He is a pg and that's probably the least paid position out there. How many pgs actually get paid the max? Starting next year I can only think of Paul and Williams. Arenas was going to get the max, but he took that pay cut. You also have to figure the economic conditions and the fact that Rondo is getting security by signing a year early. So I see 50-55M for 5 years if a contract is signed this off season.

This is huge. Not many. Nash didn't. Billups didn't. Parker didn't. And those guys were already stars. Rondo is not an all star yet.

[EJPLAYA]

Something tells me Rondo doesn't seem like the type of guy who will UNDER value his worth. I am guessing the only thing in that kids mind is max contract. SOMEONE will give it to him, so why wouldn't he. I am thinking trade. At full strength we weren't the best team playing and Cleveland will likely only be better next year as will the Lakers. We need major improvement to get #18.