Ray Allen and the Celtics suck

[celticmaestro]

Is that about right? This is a great place to vent so I can avoid the BS I read on every other thread. It's really pathetic and uncalled for.

[ACF]

I always love when I get
to break out this pic:



Good point, maestro.

[Redz]

I don't like any of you

I'm taking my ball and blogging home 

[Steve Weinman]

Is that about right? This is a great place to vent so I can avoid the BS I read on every other thread. It's really pathetic and uncalled for.

Well done.  Nothing more to add on my end.  Congratulations on 800, CM.

-sw

[CelticsWhat35]

I was going to start a separate tongue-in-cheek post regarding Ray Allen, but I figure I'll just continue from this thread.

I think Ray Allen will shoot horribly in game 7.  I say this, because I feel like I've read articles or posts prior to each of the past 3 or 4 games with people saying they have a "feeling" Ray is gonna bust out with a great shooting performance.  And obviously, each time they've been wrong.  From Ray's two years with the team, we've seen him go series or stretches where he can't miss, and it's a thing of beauty.  We saw it in the Chicago series, and several times before.  We've also seen stretches or series where he can't hit the broad side of a barn.  We're seeing it right now.  And we've also seen games where he's 0-everything, and then comes up with the biggest shot of the game.  We saw it in game 5.

What I'm getting at is, we have NO IDEA what Ray is going to do in game 7.  What we do know, is that he is going to shoot with confidence, no matter if he-s 2-10 or 8-10.

And for all the sky-is-fallng people, if I had told you that Ray and Rondo would be shooting as poorly as they have in this series, yet we still had a chance to close it out in a 7th game at the Garden, I think you'd be pretty happy with that.

One caveat, though.  Whether or not Ray breaks out of his slump on Sunday, the Celtics can still win.  They've done it 3 times in this series.  However, if they do win, and he puts up a similar performance in the Cleveland series, Sunday could very well be our last win of the season.  The Celtics have played one good game out of six this series, and I'm not going to take away from their gritty comebacks in games 1 and 5, and the buzzer beater from Baby.  Those were all great.  But those things won't fly against the Cavs.  If we're down 28 in the 2nd half, or 14 in the 4th quarter against the Cavs, we're going to lose.  Their defense is too good, and LeBron is too good.

So it's discouraging to know that the Celtics have only played one good game out of their last 6, but it's encouraging to know that they can still advance to the ECF, and have not come close to playing their best basketball yet.

[CDawg834]

If you remember in last year's playoffs, Ray was completely useless in the first three rounds, and ended up going off in the Finals (22 three pointers in the series I think).  They couldn't have won it all without him, but it is frustrating to see him completely disappear at times.

[jambr380]

They didn't need him as much last year. This year he is basically useless if he is not hitting shots (and maybe less than useless as he is taking shots away from somebody else- like House). Last night's game was a total reversal of game 5 and this time it went Orlando's way. It would be great to pull this next one out, but either Ray will have to shoot fairly well or he will have to sit until the last three minutes in order for that to happen.

[Edgar]

I am considering becoming a Man U fan....

NOT!

 

Way to go maestro

[Drucci]

Ray disappoints me and I feel bad for him because it must be hard to take all the blame like this. However people tend to forget easily that without him the Celtics wouldn't have advanced to the second round.

In the first round, Pierce was playing poorly and Ray was good (even great. Now, in this series, Ray is shooting poorly and making poor decisions/passes most of the time while Pierce is playing well. Still I like Ray's defense, he is doing a good job, plus he is key in some crucial moments, for example he notched a key offensive rebound in game 6, but the Celtics lost the game anyway.

You can blame him but you've also got to acknowledge that Orlando is defending very well on him, like Cleveland last year. The took him out of the series right from the first game, "mentally" speaking, and now even when is he wide open this slump is in his head and haunts him. The key threy that he missed at the end of game 6 cost us the game but the same trey did win game 5 for us so I'll take it.

I'm still waiting for a bounce back game... hopefully game 7 will be Ray's game. Because if he doesn't fint his shot and if nobody steps up our season could end Sunday. And it would be unfair to put all the blame on Ray.

[bobdelt]

he's just old.

He gets two days off now. The first time in a long time!

I think he'll bounce back strong in game 7, same with PP.


Hopefully Rondo can slow down the turn overs.

Sunday should be a big win for the C's. There's going to be a lot of evergy and the 2nd day off should help us out more than them.

[CelticsWhat35]

he's just old.

He gets two days off now. The first time in a long time!

I think he'll bounce back strong in game 7, same with PP.


Hopefully Rondo can slow down the turn overs.

Sunday should be a big win for the C's. There's going to be a lot of evergy and the 2nd day off should help us out more than them.

That's actually a good point that I didn't think of.  During the regular season, Ray shot 52% from the field in games after 2 days of rest.  Hopefully, that's something that can help going into game 7.  Although, I'm not sure how much this has to do with fatigue, because last year Ray actually got better as the playoffs went on.

[Eeyore III]

First a sober thought: Maybe Doc shouldn't have played Ray 36+ minutes a game during the regular season.

Now for venting: Ray Allen at this point in his career is no better than JJ Redick.

Barf!

[crownsy]

First a sober thought: Maybe Doc shouldn't have played Ray 36+ minutes a game during the regular season.


Barf!

Who should he have played, keeping in mind that until the end we needed eddie to play backup point and he was unavailable to spell ray without making us super small?

Ray had to play, he plays SF for us sometimes because our off season was woefully devoid of a backup 3 to replace posey.

I have no problem with letting pos walk, but i do have a problem with not getting a 3 doc trusts to replace him.

[jambr380]

he's just old.

He gets two days off now. The first time in a long time!

I think he'll bounce back strong in game 7, same with PP.


Hopefully Rondo can slow down the turn overs.

Sunday should be a big win for the C's. There's going to be a lot of evergy and the 2nd day off should help us out more than them.

I don't even care if he bounces back "strong"- I just don't want him to completely suck. He has been the most inconsistent player these past couple of weeks. he goes off for 50+ against the Bulls and then he has games where he scores five points on many open shots. If he can go out, put up 20 or so on 7-16 shooting with a couple of threes and some free throws, I will be perfectly happy...

[the_Bird]

It's not (just) that he's missing shots; shooters slump, and the timing sucks but it's inevitable that a shooter goes through a cold spell.

But, he's not playing well in ANY facet of the game.  His defense has been subpar, and he's making more than his fair share of dumb plays (and the C's had plenty last night).  You expect at the very least that Jesus is going to play smart, but that hasn't really been the case.