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Re: shoved kid's dad demands apology
« Reply #135 on: May 12, 2009, 12:58:45 PM »

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His comment that BBD was raging was 100% accurate. Go look at the tape. Look at his face. Look at him cursing up to and taunting the fans. No he didn't mean to bump into that kid, but the father was only wrong with his demanding of an apology.

The guy called BBD a raging "lunatic" and a raging "animal".  The fact that you're okay with that, and defend the father's choice of words, seems to be more motivated by your stated dislike for BBD more than anything else.

Unless, of course, you truly think it's okay to go around calling people animals.

Never saw the word animal, only lunatic. I think he was quite over the top and it was fitting. The issue however is that this is about BBD and the kid, not the father. I don't think the father is in the right, however what has the kid done?! We are are acting like the kid did something wrong. He did nothing wrong and it is to the kid that BBD should apolopgize, not the father. The father should apologize for calling BBD an animal.

I have said this a ton of times, but I do not dislike BBD. I think he is limited in his ability out there and has basically peaked which is not good enough for a potential starter, however I love the guys energy and personality. I have said that from day 1.



Not to rain on the rush to convict glen davis your on here, but while i don't blame the kid or baby one bit,  the kid DID technicaly do something "wrong".

He was standing up and well away from his seat, he's got a foot on the inbounds line in the vid.

now, mabey courtside seat rules are diffrent in orlando, they may well be. But in boston, it has been made quite clear to everyone I know (all 2 of em) who have been lucky enough to get courtside seats that  you keep sitting in your seat, or at worst you stand pressed agaisnt it, or you take your chances and then it is your job to be aware of what is going on during the game.

Again, not the kid's fault, or davis's. but to say the kid was somehow not anywhere near the court and davis attacked him like some lunitic? please EJ.

It's really hard to take the way your selling this seriously, given your noted dislike of davis ( i know you say you don't, but the tone of your posts is that hes a fat lump who isn't worthy to be a celtic. i don't know how much stronger you can express your dislike of a guy) and his continued role on this team...If this had been ray (and no "he wouldn't have done it" comeback, this is my hypothetical  ;D) or anyone else, you would have come to the same conclusion magic and celtic fans have.

Kid got pushed (he didn't even fall down, despite the scum bag fathers insistance he did) and lost his hat when davis had to avoid a ref and run the out of bounds line. No fault for either party.

End of story.

You are SERIOUSLY misrepresenting what I said Crownsy. That isn't like you.

#1 - I said BBD was running around acting like a lunatic, not that he attacked the kid like a lunatic. That is a fact. Go look at the video. He was excited, yes, but he was acting like a lunatic. I don't blame him for it because he is a young kid himself and just hit a huge shot, but he was over the top.

#2- I said multiple times early in this thread that he didn't push the kid. He "swim moved" past him. Had he pushed the kid he would have went flying down hard. I also said BBD obviously had no idea who was next to him. There was nothing intentional.

#3 - Repeat it all you want but it isn't true. I dislike BBD's game. It has huge amounts of holes in it and it wouldn't be that hard to fill. How difficult is it to replace an overweight undersized PF that can't rebound, can't block shots, and is a mediocre shooter?! I think the guy has an awesome personality and that he would be a fun guy to be a teammate of. I don't however think that he is a starting caliber PF and is a career backup unless on a scrub team. If you want to hitch your wagon to a borderline starter then go ahead. I'd rather see us trade him for something more well rounded. Don't forget as well that a couple months ago I created a thread giving big props to BBD for the way he has been dropping pounds, playing with more consistency, and hitting that outside jumper. Don't just take the part of my comments that fit your argument.

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Re: shoved kid's dad demands apology
« Reply #136 on: May 12, 2009, 01:12:46 PM »

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His comment that BBD was raging was 100% accurate. Go look at the tape. Look at his face. Look at him cursing up to and taunting the fans. No he didn't mean to bump into that kid, but the father was only wrong with his demanding of an apology.

The guy called BBD a raging "lunatic" and a raging "animal".  The fact that you're okay with that, and defend the father's choice of words, seems to be more motivated by your stated dislike for BBD more than anything else.

Unless, of course, you truly think it's okay to go around calling people animals.

Never saw the word animal, only lunatic. I think he was quite over the top and it was fitting. The issue however is that this is about BBD and the kid, not the father. I don't think the father is in the right, however what has the kid done?! We are are acting like the kid did something wrong. He did nothing wrong and it is to the kid that BBD should apolopgize, not the father. The father should apologize for calling BBD an animal.

I have said this a ton of times, but I do not dislike BBD. I think he is limited in his ability out there and has basically peaked which is not good enough for a potential starter, however I love the guys energy and personality. I have said that from day 1.



Not to rain on the rush to convict glen davis your on here, but while i don't blame the kid or baby one bit,  the kid DID technicaly do something "wrong".

He was standing up and well away from his seat, he's got a foot on the inbounds line in the vid.

now, mabey courtside seat rules are diffrent in orlando, they may well be. But in boston, it has been made quite clear to everyone I know (all 2 of em) who have been lucky enough to get courtside seats that  you keep sitting in your seat, or at worst you stand pressed agaisnt it, or you take your chances and then it is your job to be aware of what is going on during the game.

Again, not the kid's fault, or davis's. but to say the kid was somehow not anywhere near the court and davis attacked him like some lunitic? please EJ.

It's really hard to take the way your selling this seriously, given your noted dislike of davis ( i know you say you don't, but the tone of your posts is that hes a fat lump who isn't worthy to be a celtic. i don't know how much stronger you can express your dislike of a guy) and his continued role on this team...If this had been ray (and no "he wouldn't have done it" comeback, this is my hypothetical  ;D) or anyone else, you would have come to the same conclusion magic and celtic fans have.

Kid got pushed (he didn't even fall down, despite the scum bag fathers insistance he did) and lost his hat when davis had to avoid a ref and run the out of bounds line. No fault for either party.

End of story.

You are SERIOUSLY misrepresenting what I said Crownsy. That isn't like you.

#1 - I said BBD was running around acting like a lunatic, not that he attacked the kid like a lunatic. That is a fact. Go look at the video. He was excited, yes, but he was acting like a lunatic. I don't blame him for it because he is a young kid himself and just hit a huge shot, but he was over the top.

#2- I said multiple times early in this thread that he didn't push the kid. He "swim moved" past him. Had he pushed the kid he would have went flying down hard. I also said BBD obviously had no idea who was next to him. There was nothing intentional.

#3 - Repeat it all you want but it isn't true. I dislike BBD's game. It has huge amounts of holes in it and it wouldn't be that hard to fill. How difficult is it to replace an overweight undersized PF that can't rebound, can't block shots, and is a mediocre shooter?! I think the guy has an awesome personality and that he would be a fun guy to be a teammate of. I don't however think that he is a starting caliber PF and is a career backup unless on a scrub team. If you want to hitch your wagon to a borderline starter then go ahead. I'd rather see us trade him for something more well rounded. Don't forget as well that a couple months ago I created a thread giving big props to BBD for the way he has been dropping pounds, playing with more consistency, and hitting that outside jumper. Don't just take the part of my comments that fit your argument.

END of Story!   ;D

why do i have to hitch my wagon to him as a starter though?

Im quite comfortable with him as a 7th or 8th man on a championship team, which is what he is when we are healthy. I've never said i thought he was some sort of long term KG replacement.
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Re: shoved kid's dad demands apology
« Reply #137 on: May 12, 2009, 01:15:05 PM »

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BBD apologized:

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"You know what, I’m a big guy," Davis said. "And sometimes I can’t even feel when I’m sitting on the remote. So imagine if my emotions are going wild and I’m running by somebody and I don’t feel it. So if I’ve hurt anybody or if I’ve done any harm to anybody, please forgive me. Because my intentions were harmless."

Good enough for me. 

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Re: shoved kid's dad demands apology
« Reply #138 on: May 12, 2009, 01:16:31 PM »

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BBD apologized:

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"You know what, I’m a big guy," Davis said. "And sometimes I can’t even feel when I’m sitting on the remote. So imagine if my emotions are going wild and I’m running by somebody and I don’t feel it. So if I’ve hurt anybody or if I’ve done any harm to anybody, please forgive me. Because my intentions were harmless."

Good enough for me. 

More than enough for me as well.
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« Reply #139 on: May 12, 2009, 01:22:12 PM »

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BBD apologized:

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"You know what, I’m a big guy," Davis said. "And sometimes I can’t even feel when I’m sitting on the remote. So imagine if my emotions are going wild and I’m running by somebody and I don’t feel it. So if I’ve hurt anybody or if I’ve done any harm to anybody, please forgive me. Because my intentions were harmless."

Good enough for me. 

More than enough for me as well.

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« Reply #140 on: May 12, 2009, 01:29:13 PM »

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BBD apologized:

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"You know what, I’m a big guy," Davis said. "And sometimes I can’t even feel when I’m sitting on the remote. So imagine if my emotions are going wild and I’m running by somebody and I don’t feel it. So if I’ve hurt anybody or if I’ve done any harm to anybody, please forgive me. Because my intentions were harmless."

Good enough for me. 

More than enough for me as well.

The Good Gigantic Bebe

Meh. Still think the father was outta line and it was ideally unnecessary, but good job avoiding a further crap storm.

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Re: shoved kid's dad demands apology
« Reply #141 on: May 12, 2009, 01:32:33 PM »

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BBD apologized:

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"You know what, I’m a big guy," Davis said. "And sometimes I can’t even feel when I’m sitting on the remote. So imagine if my emotions are going wild and I’m running by somebody and I don’t feel it. So if I’ve hurt anybody or if I’ve done any harm to anybody, please forgive me. Because my intentions were harmless."

Good enough for me. 

More than enough for me as well.

The Good Gigantic Bebe

Meh. Still think the father was outta line and it was ideally unnecessary, but good job avoiding a further crap storm.

yea, but no harm as EJ and others have pointed out in just a simple apologie to the kid. it's not his fault his dad wanted to promote his toy company and made a huge issue out of it (check out the tag line of the original story, father couldn't get hsi companies name in there fast enough.)
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« Reply #142 on: May 12, 2009, 01:32:38 PM »

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The rest of the apology, and Doc's reaction:

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“No, I didn’t see the kid. Like I say, I’m a big guy and I’m emotional and I didn’t see him. If I’d have seen I’d knocked him down, I’d have picked him and rubbed his head and try to make him feel better. Because I’m a big guy and I’m sorry if I hurt anyone at all.”

Celtics Coach Doc Rivers was a little more flabbergasted that what appeared to be incidental contact on the sideline with the fan had gotten this much attention.

“Yeah, I guess,” he said when asked if he was going to tell Baby to watch out for fans in the future. “My gosh, where are we at now? Isn’t that amazing.”

And when told that the kid’s father had backed off his claims since making his initial comments to the Sentinel, Rivers was equally shrugging about the entire incident.

“Well, that’s really bright on his part,” he said. “My gosh. I told Baby, ‘Say you’re sorry.’ My gosh.”

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Re: shoved kid's dad demands apology
« Reply #143 on: May 12, 2009, 01:34:01 PM »

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BBD apologized:

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"You know what, I’m a big guy," Davis said. "And sometimes I can’t even feel when I’m sitting on the remote. So imagine if my emotions are going wild and I’m running by somebody and I don’t feel it. So if I’ve hurt anybody or if I’ve done any harm to anybody, please forgive me. Because my intentions were harmless."

Good enough for me. 

I feel worse for the remote than I do the kid.

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« Reply #144 on: May 12, 2009, 01:36:20 PM »

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BBD apologized:

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"You know what, I’m a big guy," Davis said. "And sometimes I can’t even feel when I’m sitting on the remote. So imagine if my emotions are going wild and I’m running by somebody and I don’t feel it. So if I’ve hurt anybody or if I’ve done any harm to anybody, please forgive me. Because my intentions were harmless."

Good enough for me. 

Well done.  He apologized to the kid, without giving the jerk father full satisfaction. 

The sad thing about this whole story is that this guy gets to go on being a father, teaching his kid to be a self-entitled jerk, like himself.

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« Reply #145 on: May 12, 2009, 01:36:38 PM »

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I love Doc's "my gosh", it says a lot about his thoughts on this story. ;D

Anyway as I've said it on CB's article about it, it was nice from BBD to apologize but he didn't have to, considering that the dad started all this absurd story while he shouldn't have.

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« Reply #146 on: May 12, 2009, 01:41:18 PM »

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You are SERIOUSLY misrepresenting what I said Crownsy. That isn't like you.

#1 - I said BBD was running around acting like a lunatic, not that he attacked the kid like a lunatic. That is a fact. Go look at the video. He was excited, yes, but he was acting like a lunatic. I don't blame him for it because he is a young kid himself and just hit a huge shot, but he was over the top.

#2- I said multiple times early in this thread that he didn't push the kid. He "swim moved" past him. Had he pushed the kid he would have went flying down hard. I also said BBD obviously had no idea who was next to him. There was nothing intentional.

#3 - Repeat it all you want but it isn't true. I dislike BBD's game. It has huge amounts of holes in it and it wouldn't be that hard to fill. How difficult is it to replace an overweight undersized PF that can't rebound, can't block shots, and is a mediocre shooter?! I think the guy has an awesome personality and that he would be a fun guy to be a teammate of. I don't however think that he is a starting caliber PF and is a career backup unless on a scrub team. If you want to hitch your wagon to a borderline starter then go ahead. I'd rather see us trade him for something more well rounded. Don't forget as well that a couple months ago I created a thread giving big props to BBD for the way he has been dropping pounds, playing with more consistency, and hitting that outside jumper. Don't just take the part of my comments that fit your argument.

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Sorry EJ, but I disagree with a lot of what you have said.

lunatic - n - a person whose actions and manner are marked by extreme eccentricity or recklessness

lunatic - adj - gaily or lightheartedly mad, frivolous, eccentric

Big Baby was not acting like a lunatic

Game winning shot = acting on pure emotions
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« Reply #147 on: May 12, 2009, 02:55:24 PM »

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If you don't want to get touched, then either sit your butt down in your seat or get Loge/Balcony seats.

I kind of agree with that.

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« Reply #149 on: May 12, 2009, 03:21:20 PM »

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BBD apologized:

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"You know what, I’m a big guy," Davis said. "And sometimes I can’t even feel when I’m sitting on the remote. So imagine if my emotions are going wild and I’m running by somebody and I don’t feel it. So if I’ve hurt anybody or if I’ve done any harm to anybody, please forgive me. Because my intentions were harmless."

Good enough for me. 

I feel worse for the remote than I do the kid.
Now we have a new saying on a bad day..."Man, I feel like Big Baby's remote."   ;D