Rondo's Triple Double's are great but...

[nickagneta]

Are you kidding me?  Rondo just can't catch any breaks, can he?

  On the good side, he managed to avoid any drinking/drug issues on the way to the garden...

Huh?

[LarBrd33]

Rondo was amazing.  Shut up.

[pearljammer10]

A rebound is a rebound...I dont care who grabs it. Would you rather Perkins and Rondo both just watch the ball bounce to the floor?

[Fafnir]

Does he really have to start taking rebounds away from Perkins? There were a couple times in Game 2 where he clearly stole a rebound that should have been the big man's and a couple of those times, that caused a bobble with the ball.  Didn't happen this game but fighting over rebounds is the type of thing that leads to turnovers. 

Note: I found myself hoping Rondo would steal even more rebounds from Perkins just to get to the averaging a triple double for the playoffs, so I'm still all for it.

You're missing what Rondo is trying to do. He is calling the rebound so he can get the ball and get our offensive going in transition. Almost every time he "stole" a rebound from Perk he called, "KP I got it" and immediately shot down the court to put the pressure on Orlando's defense.

That is actually part of the scheme. Same thing that Jason Kidd and Magic used to do so well.

[Fafnir]

Meh, our bigs sans-Garnett are no big deal doing the outlet pass, so it's probably for the best.

And if you thing Rondo steals too many rebounds, you must watch Troy Murphy playing. It's almost bizarre (and there's certainly an incentive in his contract re: rebounding numbers, it's the only explanation).

God I miss Garnett suiting up in green. I watched some of last year's playoffs yesterday. Just a pleasure to watch all of what he brings. The rebounds, the great outlets, the confident assists out of the post, the constant activity in the screen roll game.

Sad that after 34 games with him out that I started to forget just how good Garnett is.

[ChainSmokingLikeDino]

Does he really have to start taking rebounds away from Perkins? There were a couple times in Game 2 where he clearly stole a rebound that should have been the big man's and a couple of those times, that caused a bobble with the ball.  Didn't happen this game but fighting over rebounds is the type of thing that leads to turnovers. 

Note: I found myself hoping Rondo would steal even more rebounds from Perkins just to get to the averaging a triple double for the playoffs, so I'm still all for it.

You're missing what Rondo is trying to do. He is calling the rebound so he can get the ball and get our offensive going in transition. Almost every time he "stole" a rebound from Perk he called, "KP I got it" and immediately shot down the court to put the pressure on Orlando's defense.

That is actually part of the scheme. Same thing that Jason Kidd and Magic used to do so well.

tp. this may be one of the dumbest threads possible.

[GeoDim]

Does he really have to start taking rebounds away from Perkins? There were a couple times in Game 2 where he clearly stole a rebound that should have been the big man's and a couple of those times, that caused a bobble with the ball.  Didn't happen this game but fighting over rebounds is the type of thing that leads to turnovers. 

Note: I found myself hoping Rondo would steal even more rebounds from Perkins just to get to the averaging a triple double for the playoffs, so I'm still all for it.

You're missing what Rondo is trying to do. He is calling the rebound so he can get the ball and get our offensive going in transition. Almost every time he "stole" a rebound from Perk he called, "KP I got it" and immediately shot down the court to put the pressure on Orlando's defense.

That is actually part of the scheme. Same thing that Jason Kidd and Magic used to do so well.

tp. this may be one of the dumbest threads possible.

LOL and OP just wants this thread to die.

[Michael Anthony]

Rondo was amazing.  Shut up.

Uncalled for.

[Michael Anthony]

Does he really have to start taking rebounds away from Perkins? There were a couple times in Game 2 where he clearly stole a rebound that should have been the big man's and a couple of those times, that caused a bobble with the ball.  Didn't happen this game but fighting over rebounds is the type of thing that leads to turnovers. 

Note: I found myself hoping Rondo would steal even more rebounds from Perkins just to get to the averaging a triple double for the playoffs, so I'm still all for it.

I think the Original Poster made an accurate observation, but perhaps he misread the situation.

Rondo frequently takes rebounds away from his teamates in the frontcourt (Except Garnett, nobody is crazy enough to try that). He also tells his teamates to shoot after he gives them a pass. In both situations, one could interpret Rondo attempting to pad his stats. He is very bright, and will be up for a new contract soon - a few tripple-doubles in the playoffs will not hurt his case.

Rondo is a bull-dog defender, and he is not shy about rewarding a big-man for running the court. He passes up lay ups for open threes almost to often. He is not a cherry picker. For these reasons, I interpret his propensity for taking rebounds and telling his teamates to shoot as unselfish. He is trying to put his teamates in a position to win.

The original poster made a keen observation, and if some of you were watching as closely, you would have seen the same thing.

[crownsy]

Does he really have to start taking rebounds away from Perkins? There were a couple times in Game 2 where he clearly stole a rebound that should have been the big man's and a couple of those times, that caused a bobble with the ball.  Didn't happen this game but fighting over rebounds is the type of thing that leads to turnovers. 

Note: I found myself hoping Rondo would steal even more rebounds from Perkins just to get to the averaging a triple double for the playoffs, so I'm still all for it.

I think the Original Poster made an accurate observation, but perhaps he misread the situation.

Rondo frequently takes rebounds away from his teamates in the frontcourt (Except Garnett, nobody is crazy enough to try that). He also tells his teamates to shoot after he gives them a pass. In both situations, one could interpret Rondo attempting to pad his stats. He is very bright, and will be up for a new contract soon - a few tripple-doubles in the playoffs will not hurt his case.

Rondo is a bull-dog defender, and he is not shy about rewarding a big-man for running the court. He passes up lay ups for open threes almost to often. He is not a cherry picker. For these reasons, I interpret his propensity for taking rebounds and telling his teamates to shoot as unselfish. He is trying to put his teamates in a position to win.

The original poster made a keen observation, and if some of you were watching as closely, you would have seen the same thing.

no, i see it all the time, but considering that the celtics offense runs best in transition, you don't think it has anything to do with the fact that getting the ball and taking off is a faster way to start transition than waiting for a pass?

that's why he does it. alot of times he'll take the ball from guys (including KG) by just grabbing it out of thier hands once they secure it and take up off the floor at 100 mph.

when he sits around and waits for the pass from the big, the other team gets more time to get back and set up the defense while he waits for the big to find him and pass.

[Reddo]

We all know that passing is quicker than dribbling.  Even with Rondo's superhuman speed with a basketball in his hands he isn't quicker than a good outlet pass across halfcourt.

The one point I didn't really account for that I think alleviates the situation is that we've lost 2 of our top 3 rebounders in Garnett/Power and so we need everyone to step up.

Again, I withdraw my statement about this being a problem at all.  Y'all have made some convincing arguments.

[crownsy]

We all know that passing is quicker than dribbling.  Even with Rondo's superhuman speed with a basketball in his hands he isn't quicker than a good outlet pass across halfcourt.

The one point I didn't really account for that I think alleviates the situation is that we've lost 2 of our top 3 rebounders in Garnett/Power and so we need everyone to step up.

Again, I withdraw my statement about this being a problem at all.  Y'all have made some convincing arguments.

if he's close enough to take the ball from the big's hands, then how on earth could he down court enough to recieve an outlet pass?

has he developed transporter technology im not aware of? or a doppleganger? 

[BudweiserCeltic]

We all know that passing is quicker than dribbling.  Even with Rondo's superhuman speed with a basketball in his hands he isn't quicker than a good outlet pass across halfcourt.

You're working under the assumption and depending on the outlet pass being made quickly. How many times do bigs grab a rebound, and don't do anything to secure the ball and make sure no one steals it from them? And there's risk involved in outlet passes. If done correctly, it would surely be the quicker way... but it's certainly with more risk and dependant on more factors.

When Rondo gets a rebound he can easily sprint up the floor without giving it too much thought, and it's safer.

[Reddo]

We all know that passing is quicker than dribbling.  Even with Rondo's superhuman speed with a basketball in his hands he isn't quicker than a good outlet pass across halfcourt.

The one point I didn't really account for that I think alleviates the situation is that we've lost 2 of our top 3 rebounders in Garnett/Power and so we need everyone to step up.

Again, I withdraw my statement about this being a problem at all.  Y'all have made some convincing arguments.

if he's close enough to take the ball from the big's hands, then how on earth could he down court enough to recieve an outlet pass?

has he developed transporter technology im not aware of? or a doppleganger? 

The assumption was that if he wasn't crashing the boards so hard, he'd be running upcourt already.

[Edgar]

I rather have rondo fighting the rebounds with perk
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