D.A.'s biggest offseason screw up.

[Roy Hobbs]

Danny saw something in O'Blount that no one else saw.

Unfortunately for us, everyone else was right and Ainge was wrong - as he was on signing Miles, leaving the backup 3 wide open, signing Mikki Moore ...

In the short term, I'll settle for Danny and his Brain Doctor figuring out how Rondo has gone from Bob Cousy to Tony Allen in three games.

In the long term, he's got some major work to do this summer.

all 3 were low risk high reward guys (as was Birdman) - he rolled the dice and came up empty, these things happen - he's also rolled the dice and come up with PJ Brown and Sam Cassell and Steph and Eddie House and to some degree James Posey

No, they were low risk, low cost, no upside guys. And we're paying the price for that right now.

low risk high reward implies sometimes someone surprises you, none of them did no, the high reward means potential, not actual in this case - heck Scal was a low risk high reward guy who's actually paying dividends now...

As I said during the off-season, signing one "low risk" guy is usually fine.  However, when you have several such guys on your roster, the *collective* risk increases, because there's a high risk that you're not going to have enough NBA caliber players on your roster to maximize your ability to compete.

[The Walker Wiggle]

If somebody posted that, I never saw it.  I know the word at the time was that Andersen was very interested in signing here, but that Danny was more impressed by O'Blount's workout (where he was winded after 15 minutes).

I do fault Ainge for the off season, but not for passing on Chris Anderson. He showed nothing in non-minutes in his New Orleans return last season, and has admitted to showing up out of shape to his Boston work out.

But still no excuse for gambling on an even longer shot, in Patrick "Nice Measurements" O'Bryant.

[CoachBo]

It's fairly obvious by now that our bench decisions were made with the checkbook, instead of by talent. There's simply no other explanation for signing O'Bryant. I hope Ainge isn't that poor of a talent evaluator.

Not going to raise the Posey issue again, except to reiterate that the results are quite clear: Playing without a competent 3 on the bench is madness.

The result is we're shorthanded in the playoffs, with two major injuries to contend with. Why anyone wouldn't factor in injury potential with the age of our key players escapes me.

The results speak for themselves.

[vl819]

Didn't Birdman get thrown out of the NBA for a year because of "cocaine like drugs" or "heroine like drugs" it was something shady if my memory serves right. If it was true then I don't want him in Boston, I ain't rootin for some drug using dirtbag even if he blocks 7 shots.

wow....

Your disdain of imperfect humans is just a little too obvious.

People deserve second chances man 

[soap07]

The result is we're shorthanded in the playoffs, with two major injuries to contend with. Why anyone wouldn't factor in injury potential with the age of our key players escapes me.


What difference does the Posey signing make in that? We'd still be shorthanded in the playoffs. Without KG or Powe, we'd still have enormous difficulty in getting past Orlando.

[Lucky17]

We finished with the 3rd best record in the regular season, 2nd best in our conference.

Would a resigning of Posey, or signing a different SF free agent, have significantly improved that record?

Would it have won tonight's game? Would it have won the next game that we end up losing?

Tired of hearing this same drum get beaten every time we lose a game.

[guava_wrench]

We should be honest. Posey would be much better than TA. Look how bad TA was when Pierce got 3 fouls.

Nevertheless, Posey can't replace KG, and that is what we are missing. Plus, if Posey was here, Scal, BBD, and Powe would have played significantly fewer minutes throughout the season, and Scal might look like he did last year, or BBD might not have had this amazing growth in the last 2 months.

People who return to this move are stubborn. You can't buy every player you want. We have a very large payroll already. Management needs to be responsible. They are running a business. You have to try to get the most out of your money, and Posey was overpriced. We were lucky to get him at a discount last year, but we drove his value up.

[davemonsterband]

Birdman was a no brainer from my POV, a very obvious one, but still, DA is in no position to be questioned about something like that, that's an inside information job.

[guava_wrench]

Birdman was a no brainer from my POV, a very obvious one, but still, DA is in no position to be questioned about something like that, that's an inside information job.

How many of your "no brainers" didn't work out, or is that your only no brainer. 

Gotta avoid the confirmation bias.

[ScoobyDoo]

I made a post at the start of the season titled " Rolls Royce with bicycle tires on it"; the team went out and bought a Rolls Royce ( KG, Pierce and Ray), the first year they put Rolls Royce tires on it with Posey and got lucky with PJ and Cassell. The second season they put Bicycle tires on the Rolls and expected the same ride...ain't gonna happen.

Because you are such a target after winning a championship and even moreso because our team is older, you need to front load your team on the bench not deplete it.

Going into a repeat campaign with three aging superstars it is very negligent, from a basktball perspective to:

1. Have no back up center( POB is unproven and Baby and powe are PF's )
2. No back up small forward ( Scal is too slow, TA too small, both too inconcistent )
3. No back up off guard ( TA is too inconsistent and can't shoot, JR too young )
4. No back up point guard ( House is an off guard that's too short, Pruitt too young )

So outside of PF, you have four positions being backed up by players playign out of position or buy players who are unproven, too young  or too inconsistent.

Nice...

You get what you pay for. And yes, we had a great season, a few games back of last year but we're doing it on razor thin legs and unless KG comes back 75-80% I say our chances of winning another ring are slim to none. With such a short window to win rings, why wouldn't you front load your team every year. Won't you make back that extra $10-15 million in playoff revenue, merchandising, etc...

I wasn't teribly upset with losing Posey, but we should have made some moves for just competent back up players. Quintin Ross / Matt Barnes / Mo Pete or whaoever.

As far as Birdman, I wanted that one badly. From the articles I read he seemed like he rally got it back together. And I loved the passion he played with. I thought he and Kevin would've been off the hook together.

Bottom line, horrible off season. Hopefully they've learned their lesson. and if they're not going to front load the team next season. Start trading these guys now.

Better than watching the torture that is: playing them into the ground like back with the 80's Celtics because they have no bench.

Is there anything worse in sports than watching the best of the best being ground down by lesser talent because they have been given no help. Stand them up there like a punching bag? Send them somewhere where the team is interested in supporting them the right way with a bench that's half decent.


   

[Tradetime]

I was all for signing JR Smith this past offseason for offense off the bench. To me, that is looking to be an even bigger mistake than signing someone like Birdman, whose offensive skills are limited.

[youcanthandlethetruth113]

Only DA has confidence in Tony Allen, not the rest of the team, fans or League.

Amen!

[PosImpos]

I made a post at the start of the season titled " Rolls Royce with bicycle tires on it"; the team went out and bought a Rolls Royce ( KG, Pierce and Ray), the first year they put Rolls Royce tires on it with Posey and got lucky with PJ and Cassell. The second season they put Bicycle tires on the Rolls and expected the same ride...ain't gonna happen.

Because you are such a target after winning a championship and even moreso because our team is older, you need to front load your team on the bench not deplete it.

Going into a repeat campaign with three aging superstars it is very negligent, from a basktball perspective to:

1. Have no back up center( POB is unproven and Baby and powe are PF's )
2. No back up small forward ( Scal is too slow, TA too small, both too inconcistent )
3. No back up off guard ( TA is too inconsistent and can't shoot, JR too young )
4. No back up point guard ( House is an off guard that's too short, Pruitt too young )

So outside of PF, you have four positions being backed up by players playign out of position or buy players who are unproven, too young  or too inconsistent.

Nice...

You get what you pay for. And yes, we had a great season, a few games back of last year but we're doing it on razor thin legs and unless KG comes back 75-80% I say our chances of winning another ring are slim to none. With such a short window to win rings, why wouldn't you front load your team every year. Won't you make back that extra $10-15 million in playoff revenue, merchandising, etc...

I wasn't teribly upset with losing Posey, but we should have made some moves for just competent back up players. Quintin Ross / Matt Barnes / Mo Pete or whaoever.

As far as Birdman, I wanted that one badly. From the articles I read he seemed like he rally got it back together. And I loved the passion he played with. I thought he and Kevin would've been off the hook together.

Bottom line, horrible off season. Hopefully they've learned their lesson. and if they're not going to front load the team next season. Start trading these guys now.

Better than watching the torture that is: playing them into the ground like back with the 80's Celtics because they have no bench.

Is there anything worse in sports than watching the best of the best being ground down by lesser talent because they have been given no help. Stand them up there like a punching bag? Send them somewhere where the team is interested in supporting them the right way with a bench that's half decent.


   

Well said.

[BballTim]

Throwing away a season to gamble on a cheap bench is not low risk. The only low risk is to Grousbeck's wallet, and that's the only thing that stands to benefit from last summer. It's unintelligent management.

  Sure, if you consider being ahead of last year's pace after 70% of the season when KG went out "throwing away the season".  

[EJPLAYA]

We should be honest. Posey would be much better than TA. Look how bad TA was when Pierce got 3 fouls.

YOU would have been a better signing than TA...