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I'm tired of all this
« on: April 26, 2009, 04:39:15 PM »

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talk of moving Ray Allen at the end of the season. He is the best player on this team behind Rondo and on his best days ahead of KG, though he'll never be as defensively good as KG. Paul Pierce is not who he was. He is washed up and it pains me to say it because I've been a Celtics fan since I knew what a basketball was. How about we move him at the end of the season and pick up Grant Hill and move up in the second or late first round and draft Tyler Smith and have him groomed as the heir to the throne of the SF forward position in Boston. Not Ray Allen, he should not, under any circumstance be moved at the end of the season. </rant>
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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2009, 04:44:01 PM »

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Trade Paul Pierce?  You have to be kidding.
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2009, 04:44:38 PM »

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talk of moving Ray Allen at the end of the season. He is the best player on this team behind Rondo and on his best days ahead of KG, though he'll never be as defensively good as KG. Paul Pierce is not who he was. He is washed up and it pains me to say it because I've been a Celtics fan since I knew what a basketball was. How about we move him at the end of the season and pick up Grant Hill and move up in the second or late first round and draft Tyler Smith and have him groomed as the heir to the throne of the SF forward position in Boston. Not Ray Allen, he should not, under any circumstance be moved at the end of the season. </rant>

Overreaction after a tough loss? ::)
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I think the refs in the beginning took PP out. He had two clear fouls and and1 but no fouls called on bullz. Then he just disappeared late. Also a lot of blame goes to BBD. He cost us this game by himself. Missed at least 5 easy layups

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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2009, 04:45:52 PM »

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Paul Pierce is not washed up, I put his strugles on Danny Ainge.
Not signing a legit wing to sub for PP, and expecting Pierce to play 38 min a game is terrible.  
He is not a young man anymore, and you have to get him more rest then you did when he was 25.  But because how this team was put together we have no depth at the wing to allow for resting PP.  This was brought up and disscussed at length during the off season.  But has been somewhat forgotten because the Celtics have played well enough to win 60.  Now it is comming back to bite us, especially in a double overtime game.  If the Celtics are forced to play 7 in the early rounds there is NO way this team can repeat.

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No, I'm not kidding but yeah it probably is an over reaction to a tough loss. He just doesn't look like who he was, and it really ticks me off seeing him make as many dumb mistakes on the court as Tony Allen. But I guess you can attribute that to tiredness and put that one on Danny Ainge's shoulders. I still think, however, we should do something to draft Tyler Smith he is a legit NBA talent, could sub in for Pierce now and could become the starting SF once Paul's days are done.
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2009, 04:51:36 PM »

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No, I'm not kidding but yeah it probably is an over reaction to a tough loss. He just doesn't look like who he was, and it really ticks me off seeing him make as many dumb mistakes on the court as Tony Allen. But I guess you can attribute that to tiredness and put that one on Danny Ainge's shoulders. I still think, however, we should do something to draft Tyler Smith he is a legit NBA talent, could sub in for Pierce now and could become the starting SF once Paul's days are done.

Did he look like his old self in game 3?
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Can't wait for another big game by Pierce in Game 5.  Thanks, ohiocelticsfan.  Without Pierce, there is no way that game is even close.

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There is simply too much put on Pierce's shoulders, this whole season and today.
Grab a few boards, keep the TO's under 14, close out on shooters and we'll win.

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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2009, 04:54:09 PM »

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Didn't see the game, but didn't Pierce have like 29 points and didn't he hit the three in the second overtime to get us within 1? What am I missing here? Can't stand the disrespect for Pierce every time the C's lose.

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Pierce got robbed by the refs all game today.  Almost every time he got the ball he was jumped all over and hammered and yet he hardly got any calls.  And then you have ridiculous calls down the stretch like that foul call when he almost stole the ball.  Absolutely unacceptable. 

I don't like preferential star treatment but in a league where LeBron gets a foul called if somebody breathes on him it's absolutely infuriating to see Paul Pierce get hardly any respect from the refs.  If Salmons was covering LeBron like that he would have fouled out in the 3rd quarter.
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2009, 04:56:15 PM »

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talk of moving Ray Allen at the end of the season. He is the best player on this team behind Rondo and on his best days ahead of KG, though he'll never be as defensively good as KG. Paul Pierce is not who he was. He is washed up and it pains me to say it because I've been a Celtics fan since I knew what a basketball was. How about we move him at the end of the season and pick up Grant Hill and move up in the second or late first round and draft Tyler Smith and have him groomed as the heir to the throne of the SF forward position in Boston. Not Ray Allen, he should not, under any circumstance be moved at the end of the season. </rant>

i'm tired of all this too .............  but paul pierce is exhausted right now - that's 2 seasons worth of fatigue btw. that's why he is not as sharp as last year - he is not washed up - have you watched the season ??

i know it's frustrating and painful - [dang] painful. the Celts must be still be burning off some awful karma .......... the injuries, the fatigue, ending up against the toughest lower seed 1st round matchup in the playoffs - which we got courtesy of cleveland on the last night of the saeson ....... and to top it off - another exhausting series.
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2009, 04:56:35 PM »

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No, I'm not kidding but yeah it probably is an over reaction to a tough loss. He just doesn't look like who he was, and it really ticks me off seeing him make as many dumb mistakes on the court as Tony Allen. But I guess you can attribute that to tiredness and put that one on Danny Ainge's shoulders. I still think, however, we should do something to draft Tyler Smith he is a legit NBA talent, could sub in for Pierce now and could become the starting SF once Paul's days are done.

Did he look like his old self in game 3?

Actually no he didn't. Woo he had what, 27 points? What else did he do? No assists and ONE rebound. Yes it was a good performance but far from what he could do. Also, just would like to point out how funny it is how p---y people get after losses.
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Didn't see the game, but didn't Pierce have like 29 points and didn't he hit the three in the second overtime to get us within 1? What am I missing here? Can't stand the disrespect for Pierce every time the C's lose.

He hit the three, and one possession earlier got an offensive rebound and a three-point play.  But he was pretty ineffectual most of the rest of the game, and missed a big free throw.

Talk of trading him is silly, though.  Even if you think it's somehow a good idea, you have to know it's not gonna happen.

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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2009, 04:58:31 PM »

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talk of moving Ray Allen at the end of the season. He is the best player on this team behind Rondo and on his best days ahead of KG, though he'll never be as defensively good as KG. Paul Pierce is not who he was. He is washed up and it pains me to say it because I've been a Celtics fan since I knew what a basketball was. How about we move him at the end of the season and pick up Grant Hill and move up in the second or late first round and draft Tyler Smith and have him groomed as the heir to the throne of the SF forward position in Boston. Not Ray Allen, he should not, under any circumstance be moved at the end of the season. </rant>

i'm tired of all this too .............  but paul pierce is exhausted right now - that's 2 seasons worth of fatigue btw. that's why he is not as sharp as last year right now. have you ever played a sport in anything beyond high school ??

No, I haven't. But that's because I tore out my ACL, MCL and meniscus and fractured my tibia in a high school game. Just haven't been able to recover from it, although it's not even been a year since my surgery.
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