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Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2009, 05:05:54 PM »

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I wouldn't foul - if the player being fouled is smart, he can throw up a shot and then get 3 ft's or even a 4 point play, and the refs were calling this game pretty tight - Ben hit a great shot, we still had the ball with a chance to win - give credit to the Bulls and come back and beat em in game 5
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Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2009, 05:07:33 PM »

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The Bulls are younger, deeper and they have more energy than we do. We're not going to win a 2-ot playoff game against anyone.

Congrats to them. They out-executed us on both ends of the floor when it mattered. Now, on to Game 5.
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Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2009, 05:09:41 PM »

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Celtics were forced into a small ball game down the stretch.  It wore them out. 



Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2009, 05:12:37 PM »

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We need more consistent scoring(points)from the bench...i think we had 11pts vs 32pts in bench play.Can't win consistently unless the bench steps up.

Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2009, 05:13:38 PM »

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Celtics were forced into a small ball game down the stretch.  It wore them out. 




this is why I think they should have fouled (Salmons not Gordon). I'd make them take the FT's and then make sure it's either Pierce, Ray or Eddie getting the ball at the other end.

Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2009, 05:16:05 PM »

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Celtics were forced into a small ball game down the stretch.  It wore them out. 




this is why I think they should have fouled (Salmons not Gordon). I'd make them take the FT's and then make sure it's either Pierce, Ray or Eddie getting the ball at the other end.


Why?  When have they done that?   


This teams is a team that tries to get the stop. 

Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2009, 05:16:56 PM »

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Celtics were forced into a small ball game down the stretch.  It wore them out. 




this is why I think they should have fouled (Salmons not Gordon). I'd make them take the FT's and then make sure it's either Pierce, Ray or Eddie getting the ball at the other end.


Why?  When have they done that?   


This teams is a team that tries to get the stop. 

and it cost them today...

Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2009, 05:19:34 PM »

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Celtics were forced into a small ball game down the stretch.  It wore them out. 




this is why I think they should have fouled (Salmons not Gordon). I'd make them take the FT's and then make sure it's either Pierce, Ray or Eddie getting the ball at the other end.


Why?  When have they done that?   


This teams is a team that tries to get the stop. 

Given the situation, forced into small ball, Pierce not having a great night, and 9 seconds on the clock, I think it's a better call to foul. I doesn't matter what they've done before.

Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2009, 05:22:18 PM »

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Celtics were forced into a small ball game down the stretch.  It wore them out. 




this is why I think they should have fouled (Salmons not Gordon). I'd make them take the FT's and then make sure it's either Pierce, Ray or Eddie getting the ball at the other end.


Why?  When have they done that?   


This teams is a team that tries to get the stop. 

and it cost them today...

Not finishing out the 2nd overtime cost them.  


Creating a 22 footer for Rondo to finish the 1st over time cost them.  


Better defense was needed there.

Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2009, 05:23:43 PM »

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Celtics were forced into a small ball game down the stretch.  It wore them out. 




this is why I think they should have fouled (Salmons not Gordon). I'd make them take the FT's and then make sure it's either Pierce, Ray or Eddie getting the ball at the other end.


Why?  When have they done that?   


This teams is a team that tries to get the stop. 

and it cost them today...

Not finishing out the 2nd overtime cost them.  


Creating a 22 footer for Rondo to finish the 1st over time cost them.  


Better defense was needed there.

up 3 under 9 seconds in OT you should win the game....period. it never should have gotten to double OT

Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2009, 05:24:49 PM »

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Celtics were forced into a small ball game down the stretch.  It wore them out. 




this is why I think they should have fouled (Salmons not Gordon). I'd make them take the FT's and then make sure it's either Pierce, Ray or Eddie getting the ball at the other end.


Why?  When have they done that?   


This teams is a team that tries to get the stop. 

and it cost them today...

Not finishing out the 2nd overtime cost them.  


Creating a 22 footer for Rondo to finish the 1st over time cost them.  


Better defense was needed there.

up 3 under 9 seconds in OT you should win the game....period. it never should have gotten to double OT


Thus the need for better defense.

Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2009, 05:25:01 PM »

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Celtics were forced into a small ball game down the stretch.  It wore them out. 




this is why I think they should have fouled (Salmons not Gordon). I'd make them take the FT's and then make sure it's either Pierce, Ray or Eddie getting the ball at the other end.


Why?  When have they done that?   


This teams is a team that tries to get the stop. 

and it cost them today...

Not finishing out the 2nd overtime cost them.  


Creating a 22 footer for Rondo to finish the 1st over time cost them.  


Better defense was needed there.

It's not like they were playing great defense all game and we're debating the finishing of the 2nd overtime.

Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2009, 05:26:58 PM »

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Celtics were forced into a small ball game down the stretch.  It wore them out. 




this is why I think they should have fouled (Salmons not Gordon). I'd make them take the FT's and then make sure it's either Pierce, Ray or Eddie getting the ball at the other end.


Why?  When have they done that?   


This teams is a team that tries to get the stop. 

and it cost them today...

Not finishing out the 2nd overtime cost them.  


Creating a 22 footer for Rondo to finish the 1st over time cost them.  


Better defense was needed there.

It's not like they were playing great defense all game
and we're debating the finishing of the 2nd overtime.

And that sums up the problem with the Celtics right now.  This team wins with defense.  A defense it is not playing right now.

Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2009, 05:33:57 PM »

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you foul..it cost memphis a NC and it cost boston today...

And by fouling you can also lose - and even fail to have another chance at the OT. If the option was so clear, why do you think so many great college and NBA coaches, including some former Celtics greats, don't opt to foul? Are they all idiots?

Well, this was a common tactic in the 80ies/early 90ies. Were all the coaches back then idiots? I think it has more to do with a mutual agreement in the NBA not to use the foul tactic too much. It can get pretty frustrating to watch 47 minutes of basketball and then one minute of the foul-game decides who wins or loses. And the league`s first and foremost goal seems to be to entertain their audience, not to frustrate them, which could hurt their revenue.
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Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2009, 05:37:12 PM »

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I probably would've opted for the foul and made sure the ball got into Ray's hands. But as others have said you also hope Pierce doesn't let Gordon run by him.

I thought we had plenty of opportunities to win this one. We kind of let it slip away I thought.