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Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2009, 05:50:44 PM »

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I am in the camp that you should've fouled in that situation.  Poor decision there not to foul in my opinion.  I like our chances trading free throws.  Should've been up 3-1.

Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2009, 05:58:59 PM »

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Well, for those who didn't want to foul Salmons, one, we would have had the ball up by 1 if he made both better than what happened, that is why coaching isn't easy, two, as far as fouling every possesion, well uhm, isn't that what Chicago did,...? Why aren't any of the announcers calling us "The injury depleted Celtics" KG and Leon..what other team could lose 2 top guys like that and not get credit.....Kobe and Odom, LBJ and Varajo or Z.....???

Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #32 on: April 26, 2009, 06:30:57 PM »

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Should have tried Walker also in there, at least for a few minutes.....Speed, Slasher, shot blocker YOUTH...! Young VS young....!

Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2009, 06:38:31 PM »

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Well, for those who didn't want to foul Salmons, one, we would have had the ball up by 1 if he made both better than what happened, that is why coaching isn't easy, two, as far as fouling every possesion, well uhm, isn't that what Chicago did,...? Why aren't any of the announcers calling us "The injury depleted Celtics" KG and Leon..what other team could lose 2 top guys like that and not get credit.....Kobe and Odom, LBJ and Varajo or Z.....???
Crying?

JVG DID mention that the Celtics were playing with a frontcourt that wasn't even part of the rotation in the playoffs last year when Scal and BBD were in. He gave them credit for performing so well without their main guys up front.

The announcers aren't grief counselors who are there to console you when your team loses. Why should they repeat over and over again about KG and Leon? There is not consolation prize for being depleted. You play with what you have. Why would you even want announcers who make excuses for teams? Making excuses is a loser move.

Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2009, 06:42:36 PM »

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Hahahaha, oh wow, I was crying, and didn't even realize it, okay.....i am going to go back to the subject here......I wish they would have fouled him.....

Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2009, 06:43:55 PM »

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Should have tried Walker also in there, at least for a few minutes.....Speed, Slasher, shot blocker YOUTH...! Young VS young....!

???


Youth with little playing experience?

Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2009, 06:46:30 PM »

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How do you get experience...? Just my opinion, try him, is all i ask.....who knows....

Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2009, 06:47:44 PM »

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Sigh.

 ::)

There's a reason why people who weren't able to earn minutes in the regular season don't play in the playoffs.

Not enough of one, I guess, in the case of Tony Allen, but the reason is out there.
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Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2009, 06:48:47 PM »

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I only saw the second half (heard the first on radio) but did Doc really take the ball out of Rondo's hands in the second half? I mean, were Rondo's plays in the first half mainly off turnovers/breaks whereas it turned into a halfcourt game in the second half? Or did we get away from what we were doing earlier?

Because it seemed as if when the Bulls went small we started going to the Pierce/Hinrich iso almost exclusively (even though it wasn't working).

I really really would have liked to see us run our regular pick-and-roll, pick-and-pop offense through Rondo's hands rather than the Pierce black hole play.

Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2009, 06:50:28 PM »

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I only saw the second half (heard the first on radio) but did Doc really take the ball out of Rondo's hands in the second half? I mean, were Rondo's plays in the first half mainly off turnovers/breaks whereas it turned into a halfcourt game in the second half? Or did we get away from what we were doing earlier?

Because it seemed as if when the Bulls went small we started going to the Pierce/Hinrich iso almost exclusively (even though it wasn't working).

I really really would have liked to see us run our regular pick-and-roll, pick-and-pop offense through Rondo's hands rather than the Pierce black hole play.

It's a huge reach to say Doc took the ball out of Rondo's hands, but it is true that he stopped penetrating and breaking down the defense - despite one clear timeout on TV when Rivers told the club "when we dribble, nothing good happens."
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Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #40 on: April 26, 2009, 06:52:14 PM »

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I only saw the second half (heard the first on radio) but did Doc really take the ball out of Rondo's hands in the second half? I mean, were Rondo's plays in the first half mainly off turnovers/breaks whereas it turned into a halfcourt game in the second half? Or did we get away from what we were doing earlier?

Because it seemed as if when the Bulls went small we started going to the Pierce/Hinrich iso almost exclusively (even though it wasn't working).

I really really would have liked to see us run our regular pick-and-roll, pick-and-pop offense through Rondo's hands rather than the Pierce black hole play.


Bulls made a big adjustment on how they defended Rondo.

Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #41 on: April 26, 2009, 06:52:52 PM »

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How do you get experience...? Just my opinion, try him, is all i ask.....who knows....


Earning playtime in the regular season.


Not in the playoffs.

Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #42 on: April 26, 2009, 07:31:13 PM »

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Should have tried Walker also in there, at least for a few minutes.....Speed, Slasher, shot blocker YOUTH...! Young VS young....!

???


Youth with little playing experience?
Maybe he wanted to lose in regulation instead of in overtime?

You gotta love the game people play of listing all possible alternative decisions and claiming they would have been wiser moves.

If playing Walker was Doc's strategy, we easily could be down 1-3 if we had also lost game 2 with this alternative strategy they are suggesting.

Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #43 on: April 26, 2009, 07:53:53 PM »

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Ah, so what if Rondo gets the inbounds up one, bricks two FTs - he's done it before - and then Chicago hits a runner at the end to win it?

Easy to second-guess what doesn't work.



Paul was faked out on that play. Casnt blam him because who didnt think gordon was going to shoot as soon as he caught it?

Fouling is a situational thing. The Bulls have been pulling shots out of their ass' all series, why give them another shot at it. YOu foul and still have the lead. Make just on efree throw and at worst it ot.
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Re: Doc's decisions down the stretch (split)
« Reply #44 on: April 26, 2009, 08:03:03 PM »

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Did anyone catche ray getting pulled down by heinrich after the ft at the end of regualtion? He was pulled from behind. DOnt understand how that isnt caught. But then again if a player hits the side of a guy while in position its not a charge either. Stern got his way. A series with an up and comming team going the distance with the champs. That chump of a commissioner wants the NBA to be a live soap opera.


We gave it away, but I dont know what is more blatant with it officiating, the wwe or nba.
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