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Re: 70% healed?
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2009, 12:34:42 PM »

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by the way, how is a bone spur rubbing on a tendon not structural?

It is not structural the same way a tree growing over your house and rotting out your shingles isnt structural.

There is nothing "wrong" with your house but the external object is causing a serious issue. Remove the tree and remove the problem. Fix the roof and the problem still exists

All pieces of the knee are where they are suppose to be and fully intact, that is why it isnt a structural issue. Which is very good news (if you choose to beleve them, which I do)

I think that is why they are not addressing it. If they believe what they are saying then the answer to "is the spur causing the inflammation?" is irrelevant. One way or the other the spur is getting cleaned out so if it is the cause, it will be gone and if it isnt the cause it will still be gone.

If they said "yes the inflammation is caused by the spur" would that make you feel better? worse?

I think it is clear that the spur is not helping the issue


i don't think your analogy quite works. a tendon is certainly more important to a knee than a shingle is to a house...

and yes, it would be worse if the spur is causing the inflammation because the spur isn't going anywhere until some kind of procedure is performed.

whereas a strain from an injury (twist, etc) still could settle down if KG continues to rest the first couple of rounds and the team is able to make it to the ECF.


Re: 70% healed?
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2009, 06:38:40 PM »

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So bottom line, there is a very slim chance that we'd see KG later on in the playoffs?

Re: 70% healed?
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2009, 06:53:00 PM »

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i say that he stops going all this working out and trying to come back. just sit down and get some R&R, come back next year stronger than ever.

Re: 70% healed?
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2009, 06:56:29 PM »

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i say that he stops going all this working out and trying to come back. just sit down and get some R&R, come back next year stronger than ever.

I have to disagree, I think watching KG even just trying to come back for one game would probably be among the top 3 greatest basketball moments of my life. To be fair, I'm 25, so it doesn't have ALL that much to compete with, but it'd still be amazing.

Re: 70% healed?
« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2009, 07:33:07 PM »

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I think there's a chance we see KG before all is said and done.  While I'd admit it's likely Doc is telling the truth, I think it makes sense from a tactical standpoint for him to lie.  Think about it.  If KG is at 70% and this is an injury that takes time to heal, then who's to say it's not better in a month or so when the ECF roll around.  But to say it's likely he'd be back and then not have him come back would destroy the morale of the team.  Now, they say he's not coming back, galvanize the team, and if he does come back, it's just going to further inspire the team.  I mean imagine them winning a close game 7 against Orlando, worrying about the Cleveland series, and then finding out that KG is ready.  How much would that fire up the team?  How much would that scare Cleveland, who would already be planning for the Lakers? 

Now of course there's only a small chance that happens.  However, I think there's a bigger chance he comes back than Doc's letting on. 

Re: 70% healed?
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2009, 07:50:49 PM »

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He doesn't come back this year, and he shouldn't.

The focus has to move ahead to next season, rather than a highly speculative shot at a title on a team that's not playing well in the first place.

Get the knee fixed, rehab and hopefully we can add some useful bench pieces in the off-season. Next season cannot be allowed to start without a top-flight wing to come off the bench behind Pierce and Ray.
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Re: 70% healed?
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2009, 07:57:15 PM »

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He doesn't come back this year, and he shouldn't.

The focus has to move ahead to next season, rather than a highly speculative shot at a title on a team that's not playing well in the first place.

Get the knee fixed, rehab and hopefully we can add some useful bench pieces in the off-season. Next season cannot be allowed to start without a top-flight wing to come off the bench behind Pierce and Ray.

Yeah lets see if we can get Lebron to come off the bench for us next year....

Top-flight? What?....
Grab a few boards, keep the TO's under 14, close out on shooters and we'll win.

Re: 70% healed?
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2009, 08:04:38 PM »

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i think they knew it was serious all along and they were covering it up to sell tickets. I know it sounds like a conspiracy theory, but you have to remember at the end of the day, The NBA, and the Celtics in general, are a BUSINESS. Its definitely about the money 1st and fans 2nd.

Now that thats out of the way, I still DO think KG will play in the Playoffs. It makes sense to make teams count us out, just like last year, and have KG training and rehabbing in secret. IF he feels any better than he does now, which means even 71% and we're struggling, he will come back. Maybe they will have to limit him to every other game though. Play game 1 sit out the 2nd and play the 3rd and so forth. Obviously if he plays a game 6 and we need a game 7 to win, he WILL be out there. At least this is what Im hoping for.

Oh, one last thing before I go. We still have Paul Pierce (top 10 in NBA right now), Ray Allen (best shooter in game right now), Eddie (top 5 shooter right now), Rondo (top 5 PGs), Perkins (top 5 DEF C's), Marbury (who can explode at anytime(in a good way)), Big Baby (whos becoming a solid Offensive option), and Tony and Powe (who are two energy guys(plus Powe healthy keeps Moore from playing too much). Dont forget Scal(D-fense and 3pt option). KG will hopefully be on the bench at least, and we still have an EXTREMELY DIFFICULT building to win in. (we beat CLE without KG at home). SO lets forget about KG(easier said than done), and focus on what we do have. LETS GO C's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, sorry I've been Overdosing on Koolaid since I heard KGs news.

Re: 70% healed?
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2009, 08:43:34 PM »

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He doesn't come back this year, and he shouldn't.

The focus has to move ahead to next season, rather than a highly speculative shot at a title on a team that's not playing well in the first place.

Get the knee fixed, rehab and hopefully we can add some useful bench pieces in the off-season. Next season cannot be allowed to start without a top-flight wing to come off the bench behind Pierce and Ray.

not playing well? what's that assessment based on?

I actually really like how they are playing. A lot of fire. That's what makes it even harder to take that KG might not be back.

This could end up being a legendary run with all the problems this crew has been battling.

Re: 70% healed?
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2009, 08:54:27 PM »

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never forget the OG Paul...the boy is dangerous

kev is a piece of the puzzle thats missin but we got other kats ready to step up to bat.

like mentioned before this team looks good (sorry to say) without kev..more fire..we could make it without kev but we cant without paul.

kev rest playa get ready for the head hunters next season while we try and get that 3 rings in a row


Re: 70% healed?
« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2009, 08:57:56 PM »

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This is what I don't understand about the KG injury. The 4 regular season games he played when he came back.  That was mid-March, we won't need him until mid-May that's two months of rest.  How could he be worse now than what he was in San Antonio? He wasn't a complete monster like we are used to in those 4 games, but he was still effective and gave the team a lift.  If he was able to play those 4 games in mid-March how can he not be able to play another 4 games like that in mid-May.  That is all we may need of him for to win this thing. If he can't play now, then when he came back for those 4 games I would have expected that to last 4 minutes, but it didn't he lasted for 60 minutes. Sure he wasn't dominating the game but he looked alot better than Kirk Gibson in '88 and Wilis Reed in '70.

Re: 70% healed?
« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2009, 09:09:47 PM »

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This is what I don't understand about the KG injury. The 4 regular season games he played when he came back.  That was mid-March, we won't need him until mid-May that's two months of rest.  How could he be worse now than what he was in San Antonio? He wasn't a complete monster like we are used to in those 4 games, but he was still effective and gave the team a lift.  If he was able to play those 4 games in mid-March how can he not be able to play another 4 games like that in mid-May.  That is all we may need of him for to win this thing. If he can't play now, then when he came back for those 4 games I would have expected that to last 4 minutes, but it didn't he lasted for 60 minutes. Sure he wasn't dominating the game but he looked alot better than Kirk Gibson in '88 and Wilis Reed in '70.

that's a good point, which is why I think the celtics are throwing a smokescreen and KG will be back for the ECF.

Re: 70% healed?
« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2009, 09:14:17 PM »

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This is what I don't understand about the KG injury. The 4 regular season games he played when he came back.  That was mid-March, we won't need him until mid-May that's two months of rest.  How could he be worse now than what he was in San Antonio? He wasn't a complete monster like we are used to in those 4 games, but he was still effective and gave the team a lift.  If he was able to play those 4 games in mid-March how can he not be able to play another 4 games like that in mid-May.  That is all we may need of him for to win this thing. If he can't play now, then when he came back for those 4 games I would have expected that to last 4 minutes, but it didn't he lasted for 60 minutes. Sure he wasn't dominating the game but he looked alot better than Kirk Gibson in '88 and Wilis Reed in '70.

that's a good point, which is why I think the celtics are throwing a smokescreen and KG will be back for the ECF.
9 points, 4.5 rebounds, 1 block 1 assist in 17 minutes per game with 65% shooting certainly seems like something we could use, right?

I'm with you... If we get to that point you'd think he'd get some run.

Re: 70% healed?
« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2009, 09:15:56 PM »

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He doesn't come back this year, and he shouldn't.

The focus has to move ahead to next season, rather than a highly speculative shot at a title on a team that's not playing well in the first place.

Get the knee fixed, rehab and hopefully we can add some useful bench pieces in the off-season. Next season cannot be allowed to start without a top-flight wing to come off the bench behind Pierce and Ray.

not playing well? what's that assessment based on?

I actually really like how they are playing. A lot of fire. That's what makes it even harder to take that KG might not be back.

This could end up being a legendary run with all the problems this crew has been battling.

You've got to be kidding. There's not enough defensive intensity in this group, the ball movement is oftentimes terrible, shot selection is questionable, rebounding is spotty, turnovers are too high, fouls are too high.

This team is not playing well, and isn't remotely close to the level they were playing at last year.
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Re: 70% healed?
« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2009, 09:21:06 PM »

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He doesn't come back this year, and he shouldn't.

The focus has to move ahead to next season, rather than a highly speculative shot at a title on a team that's not playing well in the first place.

Get the knee fixed, rehab and hopefully we can add some useful bench pieces in the off-season. Next season cannot be allowed to start without a top-flight wing to come off the bench behind Pierce and Ray.

not playing well? what's that assessment based on?

I actually really like how they are playing. A lot of fire. That's what makes it even harder to take that KG might not be back.

This could end up being a legendary run with all the problems this crew has been battling.

You've got to be kidding. There's not enough defensive intensity in this group, the ball movement is oftentimes terrible, turnovers are too high, fouls are too high.

This team is not playing well, and isn't remotely close to the level they were playing at last year.

you mean, when they had KG? Of course they are not playing the same level as last year. they don't have possibly their most important player.

based on the personnel they are playing with and the results they have still been getting, i don't see how you can say they aren't playing well....