70% healed?

[winsomme]

An NBA source confirmed to the Globe this morning that Garnett was only about 70 percent healed from the knee injury, which occured during a Feb. 19 game in Utah, and that the Celtics All-Star would likely miss the entire postseason.

so, one quote from this morning claims KG is only 70% healed. what does that even mean? how can you be any healed from a bone spur that hasn't been addressed?

is it just me or do we still not even really know what KGs injury exactly is?

so frustrated with all the mixed reports coming out the past few weeks....I wish someone would just lay this thing out there for us.

[BringToughnessBack]

I am in the camp that there has definitely been some cover up. The truth would be nice but this whole KG not playing was not unexpected.

Maybe it was so not to deflate the fans, maybe it was to make sure playoff tickets were all sold, maybe it was to make sure advertisers filled all slots, who knows. But one thing that is clear, Rivers and Ainge must have known all along.

Everytime they showed Danny's face on TV, it looked like someone had run him over with semi truck filled with 2000 Lebrons and 2000 Kobes

[KungPoweChicken]

If you recall from post game interviews with Pierce a few weeks ago, he said thing like, "KG in the playoffs at sixty percent is better than no KG at all." In other words, don't expect KG to be anywhere near ready to compete at the level required for playoff basketball. Doc Rivers and Danny Ainged just milked it for the ticket sales. Sad but true, I know.

[Reggie's Ghost]

I am in the camp that there has definitely been some cover up. The truth would be nice but this whole KG not playing was not unexpected.

Maybe it was so not to deflate the fans, maybe it was to make sure playoff tickets were all sold, maybe it was to make sure advertisers filled all slots, who knows. But one thing that is clear, Rivers and Ainge must have known all along.

Everytime they showed Danny's face on TV, it looked like someone had run him over with semi truck filled with 2000 Lebrons and 2000 Kobes

So you believe they knew from the start that he would be out for the season, and were like "hmm, let's string our fans and sponsors along for the rest of the regular season"?  

1. I assume this is a billion times more deflating to the fans now than it would have been right off the bat.  Plus now no one trusts a word they say on the issue.

2. The playoffs would be sold out, one way or the other.  It's Boston we're talking about.

3. Sponsors would lineup no matter what, we're still the defending champs and a big market for advertisers who don't care at all about the teams chances.

I 100% subscribe to this theory, posted in another thread by Crownsy (TP for this BTW)

I think more liekly its a fairly routine procedure that would keep him out for a month or two, and if they do it pre playoffs, it raises all kinds of questions...such as why they didn't catch the spur and do the surgery 2-3 months ago.

i dont think we'll ever know the story behind the injury, but the most logical would be, to me:

1. missed the spur (which is easy to do), diagnosed a sprain.
2. after a month or more, sprain not healing as fast as expected, second examination done
3. spur found with not enough time to do the surgery and get him back for the playoffs, so they decided to see if rest and rehab would let him play out the string till they could do the surgery in the post season.

[fairweatherfan]

I am in the camp that there has definitely been some cover up. The truth would be nice but this whole KG not playing was not unexpected.

Maybe it was so not to deflate the fans, maybe it was to make sure playoff tickets were all sold, maybe it was to make sure advertisers filled all slots, who knows. But one thing that is clear, Rivers and Ainge must have known all along.

Everytime they showed Danny's face on TV, it looked like someone had run him over with semi truck filled with 2000 Lebrons and 2000 Kobes

Uh, so they knew all along KG would be out all season, and so logically decided to play him for four games just for kicks?  Couple of holes in your conspiracy theory there.  Count me in with those who think Crownsy's explanation is the most likely. 

[winsomme]

If you recall from post game interviews with Pierce a few weeks ago, he said thing like, "KG in the playoffs at sixty percent is better than no KG at all." In other words, don't expect KG to be anywhere near ready to compete at the level required for playoff basketball. Doc Rivers and Danny Ainged just milked it for the ticket sales.

I'm actually more frustrated with the media than the Cs. I would expect them to be somewhat duplicitous about KG.
 
but the media has been so lackadaisical in their reporting on this topic.....and now i was listening to EEI this morning and they're acting like we were expecting this all along.

based on what report? that there was no structural damage and surgery was never even discussed??

the reporting on this topic needed to be way more exacting. it's not like Doc or Danny have been in hiding. they have been doing interview after interview and clear successive questions were not asked.

for instance, when Danny mentioned kinda off handedly on the Big Show that there was a spur, why didn't anybody ask when exactly the spur was found?

how about a second opinion? has there been one? Isn't that the logical step when an injury isn't responding as expected....

I mean, the questions don't even to appear have been asked at this point...

[rondo987]

If you recall from post game interviews with Pierce a few weeks ago, he said thing like, "KG in the playoffs at sixty percent is better than no KG at all." In other words, don't expect KG to be anywhere near ready to compete at the level required for playoff basketball. Doc Rivers and Danny Ainged just milked it for the ticket sales. Sad but true, I know.

See I dont believe that theory... It's the Celtics in the playoffs were talking about here, not the Nets... They would have sold out easily regaurdless.

[indeedproceed]

Im not convinced at all that KG is even out for the whole first round if we lose 2 games (heaven forbid.)

[Carhole]

An NBA source confirmed to the Globe this morning that Garnett was only about 70 percent healed from the knee injury, which occured during a Feb. 19 game in Utah, and that the Celtics All-Star would likely miss the entire postseason.

so, one quote from this morning claims KG is only 70% healed. what does that even mean? how can you be any healed from a bone spur that hasn't been addressed?

is it just me or do we still not even really know what KGs injury exactly is?

so frustrated with all the mixed reports coming out the past few weeks....I wish someone would just lay this thing out there for us.

I thought Doc laid it out pretty well this morning. There are two separate issues

1 - There is a spur, whether or not KG was feeling effects from the spur it would be removed with a relatively minor surgery (if there is such a thing) in the offseason

2ndly and more pressing is there is an injury to a tendon that is causing inflamation that is not going away. Is the spur rubbing against the tendon and causing this? He did not say. But this tendon issue is the "injury" that may or may not be caused by the spur

there is no structural damage but the fact the inflamation has not cleared is the problem and if that has not cleared I am sure his range of motion is limited and that his joint stiffens up on him quite a lot.

Bad news for the playoffs. But, hopefully good news for long term health of the knee. If it was something structural I do not think the C's would have brought him back out for the 4 games he played. We all have our rooting interest invested in KG but they have their rooting interest + 40 million + revenues derived from a competitive team over the next 2 or 3 years invested in him. I would not think, they want to put all of that on the line for 4 regular season games.

Maybe th tendon issue improves and he can go at some point but I think (and the C's must also) that it has gone on longer then they planned even longer then their original "worst case" after knowing it wasnt structural so they stopped holding out hope and came out with the statement today that he is more then likely a no go.

Frustrating but I am hoping for a return to good health and 1 or 2 more seasons of 60 win championship caliber teams.

[winsomme]

An NBA source confirmed to the Globe this morning that Garnett was only about 70 percent healed from the knee injury, which occured during a Feb. 19 game in Utah, and that the Celtics All-Star would likely miss the entire postseason.

so, one quote from this morning claims KG is only 70% healed. what does that even mean? how can you be any healed from a bone spur that hasn't been addressed?

is it just me or do we still not even really know what KGs injury exactly is?

so frustrated with all the mixed reports coming out the past few weeks....I wish someone would just lay this thing out there for us.

I thought Doc laid it out pretty well this morning. There are two separate issues

1 - There is a spur, whether or not KG was feeling effects from the spur it would be removed with a relatively minor surgery (if there is such a thing) in the offseason

2ndly and more pressing is there is an injury to a tendon that is causing inflamation that is not going away. Is the spur rubbing against the tendon and causing this? He did not say. But this tendon issue is the "injury" that may or may not be caused by the spur

there is no structural damage but the fact the inflamation has not cleared is the problem and if that has not cleared I am sure his range of motion is limited and that his joint stiffens up on him quite a lot.

Bad news for the playoffs. But, hopefully good news for long term health of the knee. If it was something structural I do not think the C's would have brought him back out for the 4 games he played. We all have our rooting interest invested in KG but they have their rooting interest + 40 million + revenues derived from a competitive team over the next 2 or 3 years invested in him. I would not think, they want to put all of that on the line for 4 regular season games.

Maybe th tendon issue improves and he can go at some point but I think (and the C's must also) that it has gone on longer then they planned even longer then their original "worst case" after knowing it wasnt structural so they stopped holding out hope and came out with the statement today that he is more then likely a no go.

Frustrating but I am hoping for a return to good health and 1 or 2 more seasons of 60 win championship caliber teams.

okay, let's say all of this is true.

wasn't the biggest question not asked?

is the spur rubbing on the inflamed tendon? how do you not keep asking this question until you get a clear answer?

if Doc says "i don't know" then you move on to more team sources until you get an answer to the question.

if the medical team doesn't know, then KG needs to be going to other doctors to get more opinions.

again, has KG gotten a second opinion from a knee specialist? if so, did they concur with the original diagnosis and course of treatment?

[winsomme]

by the way, how is a bone spur rubbing on a tendon not structural?

[Carhole]

by the way, how is a bone spur rubbing on a tendon not structural?

It is not structural the same way a tree growing over your house and rotting out your shingles isnt structural.

There is nothing "wrong" with your house but the external object is causing a serious issue. Remove the tree and remove the problem. Fix the roof and the problem still exists

All pieces of the knee are where they are suppose to be and fully intact, that is why it isnt a structural issue. Which is very good news (if you choose to beleve them, which I do)

I think that is why they are not addressing it. If they believe what they are saying then the answer to "is the spur causing the inflammation?" is irrelevant. One way or the other the spur is getting cleaned out so if it is the cause, it will be gone and if it isnt the cause it will still be gone.

If they said "yes the inflammation is caused by the spur" would that make you feel better? worse?

I think it is clear that the spur is not helping the issue

[celticinorlando]

he needs surgery to remove the spur off his tendon...until that happens he is in pain....they will take care of it in the offseason and he will be fine.

[StartOrien]

If he's "seventy percent" now, what are his chances of improving throughout the next month?

Does it seem likely, based off this diagnosis, that he'd be healthy enough to play in the ECF if/when we got there?

[Carhole]

If he's "seventy percent" now, what are his chances of improving throughout the next month?

Does it seem likely, based off this diagnosis, that he'd be healthy enough to play in the ECF if/when we got there?

Doesnt sound like it, which really sucks. I wouldnt bank on him playing at all. Though that wont stop me from praying for a miracle